To think few lives have improved due to Labour’s policies

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I knew they wouldn’t benefit me - but I thought they might help some people.

Train drivers have more money but other than that I’m struggling. I’ve lost my job as a direct result of their policies, it would be nice to find some positives.

YABU = my life had improved as a result of Labour’s policies.

YANBU = it hasn’t improved or has got worse

Some of the youth unemployment is down to AI removing entry level jobs.

When I was doing my A-levels I worked in a shop, loads of my friends did. Many tills are automated now. Employers are less flexible now so it’s harder to fit the jobs around your study.

What are you expecting to improve in the next year?

Quite possibly due to high energy costs too. That's why manufacturers are leaving the UK in droves. We are losing entire industries. It is interesting to hear how the trade unions view this.

Nothing.

Interesting. Can you explain this a bit more? Do you mean because of the overall benefit cap?

Yes, I find it odd that it would solely be down to one thing.

It will take many years to even vaguely counter/undo all the shit policies inflicted by the Tories over several years plus the triple whammy of Brexit!!

If you’re expecting Labour to turn everything around in one term, that’s delusional and on a par with Reform voters. 🤣

I have directly benefited from NHS waiting lists going down and more funding. I have an autoimmune condition and the appointment was quicker than if I went privately.

Our employment rights will be strengthened in April with more legislation going through. I am currently in work and we have had issues with work changing our pay and conditions and they don’t want to recognise our union. From April that will change.

Inflation is down.

Will I ever recover the extra money we had to pay on our mortgage thanks to Liz Truss, no I won’t.

Do I want Labour to be more red Labour than blue yes I do. I would prefer if they made the wealthiest pay more tax (tax wealth not work) those who live off their investments.

We have the greediest men alive who want to hoard wealth and not pay their way. In the U.K. we have Jim Ratcliff billionaire with his hand out getting up to 125 million of UK tax payer money to help out his chemical plants & then he relocates to Monaco to avoid paying tax.

OP why aren’t you more angry about this? The richest in our society are there with their handouts and a Tory or Reform government will only pander more to the richest in our society, while the rest of us with no rights will be fighting each other for the scraps.

If you’re expecting Labour to turn everything around in one term, that’s delusional and on a par with Reform voters

People want to ignore reality though & want quick fixes hence the move to Reform.

Losing jobs though is that undoing anything? How?

@EasternStandard how do we maintain employment with the AI changes?

Because I’m more focused on the lives of the majority than being jealous of the few. I believe in levelling up, not down.

Inflation is down because the economy is going down the pan! Its the same with every single Labour Government. Tax the shit out of everything, crash the economy. This time is no different. Although the pace is pretty incredible.

They seem to have killed the job market stone fckn dead. It was bad before but it nosedived. I thought shit was bad for my generation but I absolutely PITY youngsters now.

All my friends in the construction industry are on their ARSES.

Stamp duty increase slowed property market. I have to move to get work, likely to lose money on the house. Cool, why not?

Cost of living + refusal to move tax and student loan thresholds + liz truss mortgage rises = in the shitter.

5yrs ago life looked pretty good for me and it's been whipped away. It's worse for others but I can't say this govt is helping me.

Which mistakes in particular? Remember that the Leader of the Tories at the time of the Brexit vote campaigned strongly for remain (although he did call the vote) but Corbyn was very weak in his support for remain. Labour are no less to blame for Brexit. Leading the country through covid would also have been dreadful for any government- can you imagine Starmer doing it?!

The best thing to do is not hammer jobs via taxes and policy changes even before AI kicks in in a bigger way.

Hospitality and construction don’t use AI much and they’re seeing massive hits to hiring too.

Having a gov actively damaging youth employment and multiple sectors is madness. It sounds like business owners are realising they too fell for the spin pre GE from Labour and are now regretting it.

As @Lobstergodalso puts re job market

@Sandysandytoes years of mistakes from both sides. I’m not into partisan politics.

So Thatcher selling off council housing, privatising utilities.
Blair - NHS mistakes, immigration
We never recovered from the 08 crash & the Tories completely mishandled their time in power.
Brexit
Obviously it’s not all on politicians, the electorate needs to take some responsibility too.

It was always going to be hard for Labour because the economic trajectory was against them.

Economies don't turn on a sixpence. They inherited a large debt pile and a cost of living crisis and its hard to do anything about the fundamentals in the short term.

What they can be criticised for is lying before the election on tax rises, which has effectively hamstrung them in terms of raising money, punching down on the poor by attacking benefits to the disabled and pensioners, having no plan to raise growth and creating huge policy messes by U turning all the time.

The Labour manifesto is no longer a promise to be kept to improve the country, but a problem to be managed so they stand a half chance of winning the next election.

It was probably always going to be like this.

I have to sell my rental property due to the new tax laws so my tenants have to move and pay higher rent elsewhere

@EasternStandard But AI was impacting entry level jobs before labour got into power. And hospitality was also suffering, look at pub closures.
I just don’t believe keeping the taxes as they were would mean jobs wouldn’t still be lost. Business wants cheap labour & cheap costs.

There has to be a part of the puzzle missing. Lots of other European countries have higher social security taxes on employers to offset pension & healthcare costs so it cannot be that alone. Maybe it’s a culture thing?

They seem to have killed the job market stone fckn dead.

Yeah, I keep hearing anecdotally how tough it is out there if you need a new job or a new contract.

They've killed the housing market too. Lots of houses languishing on the market, lots of people's lives on hold as they can't sell.

Economies turn on a sixpence when you, for example, make employing people or the process of buying a house too expensive.

They've killed the housing market too. Lots of houses languishing on the market, lots of people's lives on hold as they can't

The housing market has been impacted by the rise in interest rates and also it’s ridiculous to think house prices can keep going up. Logically prices need to stop increasing as they had during the years of super low interest rates.

Big moves today to roll back the NMW increase business esp small business are saying it's not sustainable.

I think you’re not looking at the cause and effect of the policies implemented by Labour. Some did warn NI increase would be a jobs’ tax, and other policies on top.

Tbf it’s probably a surprise to Labour too, which is more concerning.