Limiting MH support to certain cultural areas?

[Mindcultural]

I have today received this message below from a mental health support service for young people.

AIBU to think it’s completely wrong to offer support based on cultural diversity and would like to know how they decide who fits this criteria?

Hi,

I’m getting touch as you have recently made a referral to our Youth In Mind services on behalf of a child or young person.

Unfortunately, we are having to reduce the size of the team for funding reasons, so we now only have funding to support young people from culturally diverse communities, if this is relevant for the individual you referred to us, please can I ask that you complete this form forms.office.com and we will be back in touch accordingly.

If we are now no longer able to offer support to the individual you have made a referral for, please accept our apologies for this. Please feel free to keep an eye on our website for updated information regarding available services as we are always looking for new funding opportunities to allow us to reach more children and young people.

There are precious few charities left for women, many have closed or been repurposed.
Personally, I don't think a charity should accept a donation that goes against its charter or risks its reputation.

Donors can do that already, by giving their money to charities where recipients of help over index with white people.

But just because 83% are white, doesn’t exclude the ones who are not?

Over index, not exclude?

This sort of discrimination sounds illegal, basically racism. Write to your MP and to the Press. This is the sort of thing that unfortunately drives people to support Reform.

Well the National Trust was very worried about its visitor demographics and did a ton of work to become more representative..which the racists, homophobes piled on about

No, I mean educate yourself. Ask questions of your local health commissioners and elected officials about how they intend to address the MH crisis for young people. Or adults. Or older people, or everyone, whatever your interest is.

The situation that lead to this did not arrive overnight. More and more funding has been taken from the NHS with the blithe assurance that charities will be more than sufficient to plug the gaps. This illustrates why that is not an acceptable answer.

I was part of a campaign group in my local area when the commissioners took a contract from the NHS and gave it to a private provider. We did a lot of publicity. Most people just did not care enough to get involved and we failed to save the service as it was. A significant number of the apathetic will have gone on to develop problems that the lost service would have treated but which they cannot now access help for.

Too many people only care when they feel personally affected.

It’s no use, this has been explained to them multiple times but they keep asking the same question about why white kids are excluded with faux innocence.

Overall the children who are recipients of help from this charity are not 100% non white though so that makes no sense. This is one small initiative of Mind, the rest of their funding is open to all and is probably disproportionately white in the first place.

So what do you think would happen if that same pamphlet was proposing to discontinue support to black and brown children and just support white kids ?

It is in fact the sort of misunderstanding of information that drives total morons to reform,
you’re right about that.

Been on their website. Haven't seen anything off this thread. Please put links

They don’t stipulate white only and shut the door completely to BAME applicants. Do tell us which ones do and have it up on their website stating this.

Oh please. Reform say “the working class have never had it so good” and that “we will move to an insurance based healthcare system”

so we will be bake selling, crowd funding and going bankrupt for healthcare soon enough. Relying on philanthropy for the most basic care

Reform is about racism and destruction

The point is white people often over index in receiving charity support, hence why some sponsors want to give BAME kids an even playing field.

This charity hasn’t stipulated black kids only.

I’m not that poster but this is about the bursary that was turned down

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/dec/30/private-schools-defend-refusal-of-1m-donation-to-help-poor-white-boys

Hi OP
Have you heard of Kooth, specialist support for young people?

They’re a free online resource/ counselling service for 11-18 yr olds and have a funded partnership with Leeds City Council / Mindwell. Worth a try. Sorry to hear your DS is struggling, and good luck.

https://www.mindwell-leeds.org.uk/services-directory/kooth/

www.kooth.com

www.leedsmind.org.uk/services/young-people/

I mean, structural inequality means that most services are not equally accessed by all sectors of society, which is why there are specific initiatives to address them. Years ago there was one in my area to target over 65s in rural areas who were below certain income levels. No one complained about that.

Thank you. In fairness, the end of their text signposted other services.

What is a culturally diverse community? For example, woukd living next door to an Asian family qualify?

“The situation that lead to this did not arrive overnight. More and more funding has been taken from the NHS with the blithe assurance that charities will be more than sufficient to plug the gaps.”

Which illustrates why this absolutely is not ok. The NHS doesn’t discriminate and exclude children from crucial services based on skin colour. So if the NHS is non existent and charities can discriminate where are parents like myself when our kids are at risk and repeatedly trying to kill themselves ?

Why the hell are we funding healthcare by charity donations? I paid £56k in tax last year and my husband paid double that. And you’re saying if our child or friends needs healthcare we’ve got to charity fund raise? Are you out of your minds! Where the hell is all our tax going?

Thanks. As a laywoman, I think the bursary was a good thing, but I’m not privy to the legal advice the school would have received, especially as Dulwich College is already majority white and has intake rules.