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Do you think random horrible arseholes are getting worse?

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Designless · 17/02/2026 18:03

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/17/men-push-abuse-women-street-stranger

I do think the days of most men not wanting to seem violent towards women in public seem to be sadly on the wane. A guy squared up to me, blocking my path, in the street recently after a minor disagreement (his dog jumped on me and I asked him to keep it under control). I said "excuse me are you trying to threaten me with your posture?" and he didn't reply so I said "ok then I'm going to call the police now" and he walked away, staring behind him. He looked pretty normal, like a guy with a job and maybe friends and family.

But maybe these guys have always been around and it's just bloody lucky if you dodge them.

Where can we live that's peaceful and far from them??

A man pushed me in the street, he wanted to teach me a lesson. Is that OK now? | Lucy Pasha-Robinson

Many women reading this will have experienced something similar: a warning that sharing public space isn’t a man’s job, it’s a woman’s, says Lucy Pasha-Robinson, a Guardian assistant Opinion editor

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/17/men-push-abuse-women-street-stranger

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Designless · 17/02/2026 23:28

ThisGladGoose · 17/02/2026 23:19

It's not just men I'm afraid. I had a similar interaction with a woman in the children's playground who had brought in her dog. I asked her why - the whole world knows it isn't ok to do that. She became verbally abusive, I called the police. She became physically violent and sustained an attack over a number of minutes. I wasn't rude, I didn't shout, threaten or become abusive or attempt to engage in any way beyond my initial question and yet this person felt it was ok to respond with more aggression and violence than I've ever witnessed from a man. I sustained various injuries, not to mention the psychological damage to the various children including my own, their friends and a selection of others who were present. I'm not discounting male violence or aggression but it's a fallacy to believe women cannot also behave this way and for reasons that are just as unacceptable.

(*Most unfortunately for this person, there were a number of witnesses who saw her deranged behaviour and even less fortunately her social media is linked to the 'friends of the park' Facebook page and it took very little time to identify her. The police investigation is now at its secondary stage and she will be receiving a knock at her door sometime in the not too distant future.)

Sadly absolutely nothing will happen to her

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IthinkIamAnAlien · 17/02/2026 23:38

I had a similar experience to the OP, walking on the Common minding my own business, and a large dog bounded up from behind and shot past so close that he brushed against my side (at hip height). He then turned and raced back straight at me.
The guy was slightly behind and off to my right. I asked him to keep his dog under control as it had just practically knocked me off my feet. He called me a miserable cow and told me not to be so stupid.
I do think dogs are a bad influence on so many people who treat them as though they are children or in some cases, as weapons to use against people who annoy them.

ThisGladGoose · 17/02/2026 23:38

Designless · 17/02/2026 23:28

Sadly absolutely nothing will happen to her

That is not what the police have said thus far. They've given a range of possibilities from a formal caution (which is still a criminal record and an admission of guilt) through to prosecution involving court proceedings (in fact I have already had to give formal agreement to participate in the latter if it comes to it). But who knows. You may be right! I don't have any prior experience of violent attacks by entitled nutcases. It's not really the point of my post (which was why that part was in brackets) - more to say that whether or not random horrible arseholes are getting worse, these horrible arseholes are not unilaterally of the male sex.

Designless · 17/02/2026 23:40

IthinkIamAnAlien · 17/02/2026 23:38

I had a similar experience to the OP, walking on the Common minding my own business, and a large dog bounded up from behind and shot past so close that he brushed against my side (at hip height). He then turned and raced back straight at me.
The guy was slightly behind and off to my right. I asked him to keep his dog under control as it had just practically knocked me off my feet. He called me a miserable cow and told me not to be so stupid.
I do think dogs are a bad influence on so many people who treat them as though they are children or in some cases, as weapons to use against people who annoy them.

Many people are advised to get a dog by psychiatrist services in situations that I think seem totally wrong.

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Designless · 17/02/2026 23:41

ThisGladGoose · 17/02/2026 23:38

That is not what the police have said thus far. They've given a range of possibilities from a formal caution (which is still a criminal record and an admission of guilt) through to prosecution involving court proceedings (in fact I have already had to give formal agreement to participate in the latter if it comes to it). But who knows. You may be right! I don't have any prior experience of violent attacks by entitled nutcases. It's not really the point of my post (which was why that part was in brackets) - more to say that whether or not random horrible arseholes are getting worse, these horrible arseholes are not unilaterally of the male sex.

She won't go to jail or incur a significant fine so unless she's in a regulated profession (seems unlikely) she's nothing to worry about.

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ThisGladGoose · 17/02/2026 23:53

Designless · 17/02/2026 23:41

She won't go to jail or incur a significant fine so unless she's in a regulated profession (seems unlikely) she's nothing to worry about.

I don't think anyone would expect a prison sentence? Nor would I wish that on a fellow parent. (Even an entitled and violent one).

If the roles were reversed, however, I would be feeling quite concerned. Maybe you wouldn't be. Fair enough.

Again the point is really that violent nutters can't be judged from their sex and that if you behave in such an entitled way, someone might call you out on it.

Designless · 17/02/2026 23:54

ThisGladGoose · 17/02/2026 23:53

I don't think anyone would expect a prison sentence? Nor would I wish that on a fellow parent. (Even an entitled and violent one).

If the roles were reversed, however, I would be feeling quite concerned. Maybe you wouldn't be. Fair enough.

Again the point is really that violent nutters can't be judged from their sex and that if you behave in such an entitled way, someone might call you out on it.

I don't see the point of wasting police and court time for an outcome she won't care about at all

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ThisGladGoose · 17/02/2026 23:58

Designless · 17/02/2026 23:54

I don't see the point of wasting police and court time for an outcome she won't care about at all

Are you her, OP? 😅
I'll leave it to the police to decide what's worth their time. All the best to you! ✌

pippapipps · 17/02/2026 23:59

Yes definitely..on a flight a few days ago after landing we all stood up as everyone does to get their cases down from the luggage holder above and the guy behind my seat stood up and pushed into me very aggressively to reach his suitcase and then gave me another nudge into my back as he brushed past me again..he knew what he did he sort of challenged me with an angry expression.. .I chose to ignore it because he looked like he was looking for an argument he appeared very aggressive by the way he was looking at me ..absolute bastard knob of a man

ItsTimeToChang3 · 17/02/2026 23:59

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Oh piss off

Designless · 18/02/2026 00:02

ThisGladGoose · 17/02/2026 23:58

Are you her, OP? 😅
I'll leave it to the police to decide what's worth their time. All the best to you! ✌

You don't think it's depressing to trot to court and waste your life minutes giving evidence only for her to be out and doing exactly the same again?

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worstnotholiday · 18/02/2026 00:02

Designless · 17/02/2026 23:54

I don't see the point of wasting police and court time for an outcome she won't care about at all

I mean- that is a crazy take. A LOT of criminals don’t mind going to prison. Nor do they care about cautions/ fines etc. HOWEVER, as a society we need to continue to utilise police and court time in order to pursue justice - because it upholds social standards (which are dropping as evidenced on this thread) because it’s the right thing to do, because it’s important to record and acknowledge the crimes that are committed in society in order to track patterns of behaviour and criminality, to effect reform/ cast an honest historic picture / in the interest of justice.

Designless · 18/02/2026 00:03

pippapipps · 17/02/2026 23:59

Yes definitely..on a flight a few days ago after landing we all stood up as everyone does to get their cases down from the luggage holder above and the guy behind my seat stood up and pushed into me very aggressively to reach his suitcase and then gave me another nudge into my back as he brushed past me again..he knew what he did he sort of challenged me with an angry expression.. .I chose to ignore it because he looked like he was looking for an argument he appeared very aggressive by the way he was looking at me ..absolute bastard knob of a man

I've had this! I did a bland indulgent face and said "you're a funny little man aren't you" in a school teacher voice and he was really cross

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Designless · 18/02/2026 00:04

worstnotholiday · 18/02/2026 00:02

I mean- that is a crazy take. A LOT of criminals don’t mind going to prison. Nor do they care about cautions/ fines etc. HOWEVER, as a society we need to continue to utilise police and court time in order to pursue justice - because it upholds social standards (which are dropping as evidenced on this thread) because it’s the right thing to do, because it’s important to record and acknowledge the crimes that are committed in society in order to track patterns of behaviour and criminality, to effect reform/ cast an honest historic picture / in the interest of justice.

I don't think you realise that there is no punishment at the end for most crimes. I mean it keeps public sector workers in pensions tbf (I am one, I'm not dissing).

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justtheotheronemrswembley · 18/02/2026 00:05

TheFormidableMrsC · 17/02/2026 22:18

I was with my daughter (who lives and works in London and is very streetwise) in Boots in Covent Garden. We were browsing makeup. A “man” came over and purposely shoved her hard with his shoulder so that she lost her balance. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. It was so purposeful and a clear assault. Came out of nowhere and was targeted. She’s petite and slim but she straight away went to security to report it and they pursued the man. We left the store. She told me that this is a common thing and fuelled by the likes of Andrew Tate and his followers. I’m not a snowflake. I lived, worked and grew up in London myself but I’d never experienced something like that.

I've got to be honest here - if I was with my adult dd in a shop in London and a man ever did that to her in a shop, I'd not be responsible for my actions. A red mist would descend so fast.

I'd fucking deck the bastard

worstnotholiday · 18/02/2026 00:05

Designless · 18/02/2026 00:02

You don't think it's depressing to trot to court and waste your life minutes giving evidence only for her to be out and doing exactly the same again?

It absolutely IS depressing but abandoning the very concept and to not attempt to achieve justice is even more so! The system is broken, and that’s painfully sad- but the answer isn’t to give up upon it. It’s to seek change and continue to pursue the ideal isn’t it? Not shrug off crime and blithely mutter “nothing will change anyway”.

ThisGladGoose · 18/02/2026 00:06

worstnotholiday · 18/02/2026 00:02

I mean- that is a crazy take. A LOT of criminals don’t mind going to prison. Nor do they care about cautions/ fines etc. HOWEVER, as a society we need to continue to utilise police and court time in order to pursue justice - because it upholds social standards (which are dropping as evidenced on this thread) because it’s the right thing to do, because it’s important to record and acknowledge the crimes that are committed in society in order to track patterns of behaviour and criminality, to effect reform/ cast an honest historic picture / in the interest of justice.

Thank you. This is exactly how I feel.

BashfulClam · 18/02/2026 00:06

Kindafreakingouthere · 17/02/2026 20:57

Maybe it also depends where you live? I’m in pretty rough part of West of Scotland…honestly the vast vast majority of people here are still polite, hold doors open, let you go in front in the queue if you only have a couple of items etc. If anything I’d say the men are more polite towards women than the women are.
I also go out running a lot locally and notice men who are out walking move waaayyy out of the way early and make an effort to give a nod or a small smile, probably trying to convey that they mean no harm.
Obviously you do get the odd arsehole or sometimes people with bad drug/MH issues that you’d want to give a wide berth but mostly people here are polite and friendly.

The things I’ve listed above happened in Glasgow and Paisley.

Nevertriedcaviar · 18/02/2026 00:07

I always find men super helpful in a supermarket. I am short and can't reach the top shelves.

If a tall enough man comes along, my conversation is always, 'I need a tall handsome man to get this for me, but you'll have to do,'

Invariably they laugh and reach me what I asked for.

worstnotholiday · 18/02/2026 00:19

Designless · 18/02/2026 00:04

I don't think you realise that there is no punishment at the end for most crimes. I mean it keeps public sector workers in pensions tbf (I am one, I'm not dissing).

I do realise this- far more than most I suspect given I work in an adjacent sector. I meet, know, and am friends with both criminals and victims through my line of work. It’s in an appalling state. Put simply- the existing justice system is not fit for purpose. But I just cannot agree that the answer is to abandon the very idea of justice.

In terms of the thread- I also absolutely agree that incidents of public aggression are on the rise and are, depressingly, increasingly accepted as the norm, with a climate of fear where normal people won’t and don’t challenge it.

BeNavyCrab · 18/02/2026 00:28

Designless · 17/02/2026 23:54

I don't see the point of wasting police and court time for an outcome she won't care about at all

That seems a very strange reply to say to someone who has been physically attacked and emotionally affected, as well as the witnesses inc children. Especially as you started the post talking about aggression, I would have thought you'd be supportive of the victim and hoping the perpetrator faced whatever legal consequences are dealt to her. Or do you see male violence differently from violence done by a female? Surely we should be concerned by ANY unprovoked violent behaviour regardless of who is the victim or the instigater?🤔

So sorry this happened to you @ThisGladGoose and whether it ends up going to court or not, it's definitely not acceptable.🫂

Designless · 18/02/2026 00:34

worstnotholiday · 18/02/2026 00:05

It absolutely IS depressing but abandoning the very concept and to not attempt to achieve justice is even more so! The system is broken, and that’s painfully sad- but the answer isn’t to give up upon it. It’s to seek change and continue to pursue the ideal isn’t it? Not shrug off crime and blithely mutter “nothing will change anyway”.

No I'm saying the criminals don't care. It just wastes the time of witnesses and juries.

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SumUp · 18/02/2026 00:38

There is more aggression. Some men feel insecure about their place in the world, that they are losing their power over women.

Some physically assault / barge.

Some verbally abuse.

Some pass legislation restricting women’s rights / freedom.

catera · 18/02/2026 00:48

Weirdly I’ve not had much of it at all. I don’t know if it’s because I’m 5ft 11 or that I have a resting angry face My friends definitely have had a lot worse especially on nights out or public transport

Agrumpyknitter · 18/02/2026 00:49

Dollymylove · 17/02/2026 22:18

Its not the reform supporters who are screaming in the faces of those with different opinions and breaking into businesses and attacking female police officers with a sledgehammer hammer though is it? Why do some people try to shoe horn reform into every post about someone displaying dickhead behaviour?

Probably because the leader of Reform thinks Andrew Tate is an important voice, has no qualms being photographed with Tate. Wants to get rid of our equality rights (removing EHCR). Reform are anti abortion and want to tax women for not having children for starters. They are not the party for women.