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To deliberately use public funds as an income for courses you have no intention to pay back or use to get a job forever?

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Chinsupmeloves · 15/02/2026 21:02

I will ask the above general question first before giving my reasons afterwards.

Do you someone who has intentionally planned to take free courses while on benefits just to avoid having to look for a job? Even to the extent of a degree to use the loans as income but never intending to work to pay them off? Clearly bright enough to be accepted but calculated to do this.

Just one of those things you think about when you observe how a friend has spent their life...

Pregnant at 17, lived at home, parents raised the child and another baby age 19, the same situation. Didn't and wouldn't get a job or go to college, only benefits.

At age 27 decided she should start to do something with her life, moved out of home with latest BF, also unemployed.

Because on UC able to access free courses. Over the next few years tried a few different things like childcare course, hairdressing, beauty, therapy, dropped out of all with excuse of anxiety and depression. (She really doesn't have these, although tried to get diagnosis, rather just very lazy and entitled)

Early 30s, did an access course and then a degree which required attendance 3 hours a week but in covid times it was online. Did the bare minimum to get a pass, we were delighted and hoped this would be her inspiration to make a career.

Nope, it wasn't the course for me, doing another one, again minimal attendance and cba so failed.

Ok try again, another degree, didn't attend or do the work so another fail.

Both of these were excuse for MH issues, which she has blatantly told us she faked and viewed and planned for the grants and loans as 'her income' with no intention of ever paying back.

It's been calculated by her on UC to avoid looking for employment by studying and money in that way, also to validate to us all that she's doing something other than sleeping and watching TV, which we all know she does every day.

The SM responses of wow you're amazing, well done, are delusional.

Now she's almost 40 and hasn't had to work a single day in her life, hoping to apply for next degree...

It's made me wonder how can this be allowed? It seems while appearing to be active studying to gain employment It's not always the case.

Get funding, start a course, drop out proclaiming MH issues, do it again and again.

Oh and she has been successful in getting a diagnosis of depression. A GP has to acknowledge and send for referral, patient doesn't go to free counselling appointments because too overwhelmed, passed up to a higher level.

The bitter pill is I do actually have anxiety and depression, take medication, have worked since age 16 and built a career/paid off student loans.

OP posts:
OriginalUsername2 · 16/02/2026 10:28

Please give details of all this free education your friend has apparently accessed through being on UC.

Jamfirstest · 16/02/2026 10:42

I’m still stuck on multiple degrees. How is she paying tuition fees? I’ve had 2 x degrees but the second one was only because it was a vocational qualification and the original one was in 1997!!

Fuzzybear22 · 16/02/2026 11:32

Chinsupmeloves · 15/02/2026 21:02

I will ask the above general question first before giving my reasons afterwards.

Do you someone who has intentionally planned to take free courses while on benefits just to avoid having to look for a job? Even to the extent of a degree to use the loans as income but never intending to work to pay them off? Clearly bright enough to be accepted but calculated to do this.

Just one of those things you think about when you observe how a friend has spent their life...

Pregnant at 17, lived at home, parents raised the child and another baby age 19, the same situation. Didn't and wouldn't get a job or go to college, only benefits.

At age 27 decided she should start to do something with her life, moved out of home with latest BF, also unemployed.

Because on UC able to access free courses. Over the next few years tried a few different things like childcare course, hairdressing, beauty, therapy, dropped out of all with excuse of anxiety and depression. (She really doesn't have these, although tried to get diagnosis, rather just very lazy and entitled)

Early 30s, did an access course and then a degree which required attendance 3 hours a week but in covid times it was online. Did the bare minimum to get a pass, we were delighted and hoped this would be her inspiration to make a career.

Nope, it wasn't the course for me, doing another one, again minimal attendance and cba so failed.

Ok try again, another degree, didn't attend or do the work so another fail.

Both of these were excuse for MH issues, which she has blatantly told us she faked and viewed and planned for the grants and loans as 'her income' with no intention of ever paying back.

It's been calculated by her on UC to avoid looking for employment by studying and money in that way, also to validate to us all that she's doing something other than sleeping and watching TV, which we all know she does every day.

The SM responses of wow you're amazing, well done, are delusional.

Now she's almost 40 and hasn't had to work a single day in her life, hoping to apply for next degree...

It's made me wonder how can this be allowed? It seems while appearing to be active studying to gain employment It's not always the case.

Get funding, start a course, drop out proclaiming MH issues, do it again and again.

Oh and she has been successful in getting a diagnosis of depression. A GP has to acknowledge and send for referral, patient doesn't go to free counselling appointments because too overwhelmed, passed up to a higher level.

The bitter pill is I do actually have anxiety and depression, take medication, have worked since age 16 and built a career/paid off student loans.

I don't know anything about funding side of things . But..

How do you truly know she doesn't have depression and anxiety. Towards the end of your post you then say she has a diagnosis.

Also the bitter pill. Because you have depression and anxiety but have managed to work.

I really don't understand when some people say i have depression but I... you can't compare your own depression to hers everyone is different.

Its like your own depression is validated but hers isn't.

As somone else mentioned the starting courses and not finishing starting another and also not finishing can be a sign of depression in it's self.

Also several people have mentioned the government won't fund several degree courses. It also cuts deeply into her uc. So it doesn't sound like shes gaining anything financially if anything it seems harder.

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 16/02/2026 11:34

what is this degree course that only requires 3 hours a week?

Anonanonanonagain · 16/02/2026 13:56

Im dying to know what degree you can get only logging in for three hours a week?

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