Nigel Farage calls for an end to working from home

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Nigel Farage has doubled down on his attack on remote and hybrid working, calling it “a load of nonsense” and saying people are only productive when working face-to-face in the office. He argues we need an “attitudinal change to hard work” rather than focusing on work-life balance.

AIBU for thinking this idea is just bonkers and totally at odds with how most of the workforce actually wants to work now?

I can only think it appeals to the "pull the ladder up" generation. Don't give two fucks about anyone else as long as they are comfortable or those that are unable to wfh and want everyone else to be as miserable as them.

Genuine question. Can Al be fully costed at this stage, taking into account, maintenance, repair, upgrades, quality control, audit requirements etc

Meaning???
A typical defensive comment from people who wfh and take the p

WFH doesn't specifically affect women.
If the issue is childcare, a partner can help? Nurseries? Or nannies. If none of this is financially viable you need a career break and be a SAHP for the short term and allow your partner to temporarily carry the financial burden. It is beneficial to the child.

As we now know you can't have it all.

I wonder if work from home is the way some mums are able to pay the bills while caring for children?

Not everyone can afford child care so WFH allows some parents to keep working while making sure their children aren't alone.

Does anyone have this experience? Please reply with your experience, really interested to hear this perspective or any others!!

I'm a leftie. We are supposed to be tolerant. 'We have more in common than that which divides us' and all that.

I also have an educational background in psychology. I know that backing people into a corner, insulting and othering them is a terrible way to get anyone to understand something.

And yet.

I think anyone that is even considering voting for Reform, let alone openly and publicly declaring their allegiance, is an absolute fucking moron with the critical thinking skills of a rock.

And not a shiny clean rock that is enriched and carried along by river water flowing over it. A dank, moss-covered rock stuck at the back of a cave, that hasn't seen the light of day for a hundred years.

Even less capable of intelligent reasoned thought than you could possibly imagine a non-sentient inanimate object like a rock could be. That kind of rock.

"They're all the same."

"It's time for a change."

"They couldn't do worse than Liebour! (do you see that I did there? I took the word 'Labour', and I changed the first two letters from 'La', to 'Lie', because they're - no wait, don't walk off, you're going to love this - because they're LIARS! They lie! LIEBOUR! Do you get it? Right, I took the 'La' and changed it to 'Lie'. L I E. Lie. Liebour! I know, it's brilliant. Liebour. Lie-bour. I'm proud of that one.)"

"Reform say what the working classes are thinking."

It is astonishing how fucking gullible and stupid people can be.

I saw a video on YouTube (l know, i know!) suggesting that Farage's health isn't too good, possibly due to the endless fags and booze and pondering if Reform would fold without him at the helm. It did pose some interesting questions. I have always thought that the only reason it is so prominent is due to Farge being so well known and being good at tuning and feeding on people's discontent. It has got me thinking what they would do without him as leader, I think the infighting would be very entertaining

That is a terrible idea. Totally unfair on colleagues as well as being a part time parent

I depair why so many have children knowing they are not in a position to provide the time and attention a child needs.

Women can have careers but need to have solid provisions in place otherwise it is selfish all round.

With hybrid working (more common than strictly remote) you can go into the office more often if you want. If people want to work from the office, they can.

You referred to people you know and then tar everyone with the same brush. There are ways of measuring productivity and performance.

Due to world time differences l am often up for video meetings with Singapore in the middle of the UK night. Where am l suppose to go for these?

Er.... Single parents, most of whom are women? 🙄

Maybe you should tell the men who fuck off and don't pay for their kids.

Mothers, so a large number of women. Or disproportionately women.

If all the meetings I had to go to this week were in person, I would probably have had to decline or reschedule half of them due to having to travel between them (work in a large multi-site organisation that also works with hundreds of other smaller orgs). As it is I feel like i’m hopping from one Teams call to another - I have 7 meetings scheduled today, plus other ad hoc calls in between. I would be far less productive in person.

You can still utilise childminders if by necessity you are a working parent.

There are lots of things lots of people can do.

I am saying it is not a barrier to being onsite.

No idea but I'm sure if you ask it to it could do that 😁

Nothing is a barrier to being onsite. Nothing at all.

With that as your starting point, it is very much a choice where to stop.

"AI" isn't remotely approaching any semblance of being stable yet. Anyone who is planning anything is either lying or building that into their risk matrix.

If all the meetings I had to go to this week were in person, I would probably have had to decline or reschedule half of them due to having to travel between them

I think a lot of the anti-WFHers just don’t understand modern office-based roles. There seems to be as assumption that in the office you sit with The Team and the bulk of your work is confined to The Team.

Meanwhile, I haven’t worked in the same office as my team since before Covid and even then I spent more time talking to those outside it who were very often not in the same building or country than I did with teammates.

It’s one of the things I find frustrating about the argument that career starters need someone at the next desk at all times. I haven’t been able to get all my questions answered by someone sitting near me for the best part of 20 years now. Being comfortable with communication that isn’t face to face has been a vital professional skill for a long time.

The point is objecting to onsite working is just excuses.

Ultimately employees need to work where their employer says, subject to employment contract.

I actually agree with Farrage. I manage a team and notice that in particular parents these days don’t pay for childcare and do school runs etc during work hours. It’s difficult to manage.
Too may people taking the piss wfh.

Meanwhile, I haven’t worked in the same office as my team since before Covid

Reminds me of the days when you could work for 4 different companies in a month without changing desks 😀

Do you need Farage to come in and sort this or is it something you might want to look at internally?

23% of families in the UK are headed by single women. There is no man there to pull his weight. Would you prefer these women worked in jobs that give flexibility, or be on benefits?