Uk leaderless

[Bertiebiscuit]

I suspect that Morgan Mcsweeney was the organ grinder and Keir Starmer the monkey, not trying to be offensive but Starmer is so far out of his depth without Morgan to tell him what to say and do. Unfortunately the Labour Party doesn't seem currently to have any other contestants! It's going to be a shambles either way, goddess help us.

Are you OK, OP? Is there a reason why you keep starting ridiculous threads about Starmer?

Whether or not Starmer will survive still remains to be seen, but we are not "leaderless" right now, and whatever happens next, we will not be leaderless either.

I wonder why you find an opinion from someone else so threatening, "ridiculous"? No!, you are offensive and defensive, and incapable of having a grown up debate. Do better

Pot calling the kettle black op.

Ha, the irony of someone claiming to want a grown-up debate starting a thread with that infantile bollocks about monkey and organ-grinder.

Another Keir Starmer thread … we don’t have enough of these, we need to start more, I’m thinking one per hour.

No, Starmer knows what to do without McSweeney. He’s functioned all his life until very recently without him. We aren’t leaderless, but you seem a bit obsessed.

Because the person leading our country is such an unimportant little detail right?

If he was the organ grinder, he wasn’t a very good one. Maybe the monkey can put on a show on his own?

Because the person leading our country is such an unimportant little detail right?

Another excellent contribution to the grown-up debate, OP. Your discursive skills are remarkable.

I don't like starmer's politics, or most of the decisions he's made since being in power. But he's an intelligent man. You don't get to be PM of great Britain without being that. McSweenie is the fall guy who backed Mendelson, so he's done the honourable thing and gone.

Yes it's a long list in a short time and it's not comforting. But there it is

I don't find your opinion in the slightest bit threatening. I find it ridiculous as per my previous post. There is nothing remotely defensive about that position. It is up to you if you find it offensive.

I'm more than happy to have a grown up discussion if there is something sensible and substantial to discuss, but what's the point in debating hyperbolic nonsense?

So you wrote something highly offensive about Starmer, and followed it up with 'not meaning to be offensive' - which is it?

And no, I don't think the UK is leaderless, Starmer is a good man doing the best he can with what he has.

I could take or leave Starmer, but the premise of the thread is absurd.

Starmer is lacking in charisma and, I think, the political nous for the modern age (I don't think he has demonstrated an inspiring "vision for the future" that people can connect to in the highly ideological age of social media politics, which is a particular problem for parties not on the right).

But he's evidently a very smart guy - you don't become a QC/KC, let alone DPP, if you're less than exceptionally intelligent.

He's a terrible campaigner, outside of an "anyone but the current lot" environment, and I could certainly quibble some of his decisions (NI hike) and he hasn't been able to keep his backbenchers sufficiently in-line on benefits and alike, but he's broadly been a safe pair of hands (and I think he's impressed in diplomacy).

Oddly, he's probably a far better PM than he is a party leader.

Always nice to see a "Do better". A sure sign that I completely ignore the entire post.

@OP Back again? Dear oh dear.

The biscuit emoji has taken on new meaning over the last couple of days.

So how much are you paid by the Tory Party OP? Just asking.

Anyway, even if we are "leaderless" that's still better than anything Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss or Sunak managed for the country.

"I have had my detractors every step along the way, and I've got them now," Detractors that don't want a Labour government at all, and certainly not one to succeed.
But I'll tell you this, after having fought so hard for the chance to change our country, I'm not prepared to walk away from my mandate and my responsibility to my country, or to plunge us into chaos, as others have done."
"I'll tell you this, as long as I have breath in my body, I'll be in that fight, on behalf of the country that I love and I believe in, against those that want to tear it up."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c74wd01egvyt