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Public enquiry regarding elite corruption

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Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 22:35

Some MPs are suggesting a public enquiry into the elite in relation to Epstein. I regard this as reasonable.Emails suggesting AMW gave trade secrets to Epstein while TE have justsurfaced. It just gets worse. Do some people need to go to prison and / or have their wealth con fiscated. Some of this feels like treason. And the queen's own son selling UK down the river. Bloody disgusing. These people dont represent us. They represent themselves. We're being scammed..Public enquiry ?.Prosecutions ?

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CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 08/02/2026 23:08

A public enquiry would be ridiculous

They take years to set.up
Millions to fund lawyers
Years to collect.evidence
And even more years to reach a conclusion.

Public enquiries are.a way to be seen to be doing something while. Making sure nothing incriminating comes out during their career

MID50s · 08/02/2026 23:11

I don’t know how these people kept quiet for this long, surely they all must have been shitting themselves if they knew they had dealings with Epstein and to continue on as if nothing happened, disgusting!

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 08/02/2026 23:16

Prosecutions would probably be a more effective route than a public inquiry, for dealing with various forms of criminal behaviour. Public inquiries are sometimes very long/ expensive ways for the British Establishment to kick issues into the long grass/ cover things up. I don't believe an inquiry would deliver the sort of outcome you probably want.

I'm not sure why you're surprised at a member of the royal family selling the country "down the river". This is what they do, and have always done, and continue to get away with - all of them, not just one.
Have you forgotten this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4l1lzv2nro ?

King Charles III and the Prince of Wales during a visit to the Army Aviation Centre at Middle Wallop, Hampshire, for the King to officially hand over the role of Colonel-in-Chief of the Army Air Corps to the Prince of Wales.

Royal estates 'receive millions from public bodies and charities'

The private estates of King Charles and Prince William have received millions of pounds from contracts with taxpayer-funded bodies, according to a new documentary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4l1lzv2nro

mumofoneAloneandwell · 08/02/2026 23:23

Just what is the point honestly 🥺🥺

they’re all at it

Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 23:34

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 08/02/2026 23:08

A public enquiry would be ridiculous

They take years to set.up
Millions to fund lawyers
Years to collect.evidence
And even more years to reach a conclusion.

Public enquiries are.a way to be seen to be doing something while. Making sure nothing incriminating comes out during their career

Well what do you think should happen. Surely you dont think all this information emerging is ok. We should just sit back and suck it up ?

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Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 23:37

MID50s · 08/02/2026 23:11

I don’t know how these people kept quiet for this long, surely they all must have been shitting themselves if they knew they had dealings with Epstein and to continue on as if nothing happened, disgusting!

Wayer iff a duck's back. Mandelson is even maintaining he's done nothing wrong now. There's an article about it in Saturday'a Times magazine. You should read it . The things he is qoted as saying are laughable.

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Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 23:37

Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 23:37

Wayer iff a duck's back. Mandelson is even maintaining he's done nothing wrong now. There's an article about it in Saturday'a Times magazine. You should read it . The things he is qoted as saying are laughable.

Water off

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Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 23:38

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 08/02/2026 23:16

Prosecutions would probably be a more effective route than a public inquiry, for dealing with various forms of criminal behaviour. Public inquiries are sometimes very long/ expensive ways for the British Establishment to kick issues into the long grass/ cover things up. I don't believe an inquiry would deliver the sort of outcome you probably want.

I'm not sure why you're surprised at a member of the royal family selling the country "down the river". This is what they do, and have always done, and continue to get away with - all of them, not just one.
Have you forgotten this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg4l1lzv2nro ?

Yes that's pretty dire.

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EmeraldRoulette · 08/02/2026 23:39

It would be a total waste of money
Our money

Prosecution should be pursued, but these people will protect themselves and I imagine they're pretty well covered against being prosecuted

Also not sure how diplomatic immunity works in this situation

It's horrendous, but I can't see that spending more of our money on a public enquiry will help us

All the firms involved will make a fortune out of it. But that's it.

Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 23:39

Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 23:38

Yes that's pretty dire.

I used to like the RF. I think I was a fool.

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OonaStubbs · 08/02/2026 23:43

We should just do away with parliament and return to being a Monarchy. Even if some of the Royals are dodgy, at least there's only a few of them. And they have at least got skin in the game as they know their children will have to succeed them, unlike politicians who can line their pockets and then set up their children in other fields of work.

Sparklybutold · 09/02/2026 00:21

Nothing will come of it. It’s futile. It’s happening now with the amount of redactions. Those with money and power can do anything they like.

Daygloboo · 09/02/2026 00:33

Sparklybutold · 09/02/2026 00:21

Nothing will come of it. It’s futile. It’s happening now with the amount of redactions. Those with money and power can do anything they like.

Prosecutions might be the way to go. A Norwegian prince is being tried for rape i think.

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CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 09/02/2026 00:55

Daygloboo · 08/02/2026 23:34

Well what do you think should happen. Surely you dont think all this information emerging is ok. We should just sit back and suck it up ?

You need to divide this up into different things.

Epstein/trafficking - nothing to do with UK. It's done. It's old news. Stop apologising to the victims as though the UK enabled this sh*t.

Epstein compromising people for leverage - treat it like a spying case and deal with it quietly. Allow those compromised to admit it to the security service so they're no longer vulnerable to blackmail.

Compromised people who colluded by sharing classified material. Investigation and Prosecution under OSA or similar.

Useful idiots (like AMW) who was cultivated not for himself but because he could open doors. Just shun them. Most of what they did was not illegal. AoC here is 16 not 18.

Just remember that wrongdoing like mandelson is only observed because eostein was convicted. He may well have done the same thing with many others whose documents have not been seized.

#epstein has become like #metoo.

A moral crusade where just knowing the slimeball is enough to have you cancelled.
Hell, even JK Rowling is getting it in the neck because her agents offered tickets to Epstein!!

Lunde · 09/02/2026 01:14

Daygloboo · 09/02/2026 00:33

Prosecutions might be the way to go. A Norwegian prince is being tried for rape i think.

He's not actually a Prince but is often referred to as the "bonus prince" as "bonus barn/child" is often the way that step children are referred to in Scandi.

I've been following the trial live reporting in the Swedish media this week and it is sobering. It is also interesting the way they structure trials so each case is heard consecutively unlike the UK system where you hear the prosecution first and then the defence..

Marius has plead not guilty to the most serious charges involving rape and DV.
He admitted some charges involving driving, drugs, assault
He has admitted partial guilt (allowed under Norwegian law) involving aggravated assault, breaching restraining orders and reckless behaviour

Daygloboo · 09/02/2026 01:37

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 09/02/2026 00:55

You need to divide this up into different things.

Epstein/trafficking - nothing to do with UK. It's done. It's old news. Stop apologising to the victims as though the UK enabled this sh*t.

Epstein compromising people for leverage - treat it like a spying case and deal with it quietly. Allow those compromised to admit it to the security service so they're no longer vulnerable to blackmail.

Compromised people who colluded by sharing classified material. Investigation and Prosecution under OSA or similar.

Useful idiots (like AMW) who was cultivated not for himself but because he could open doors. Just shun them. Most of what they did was not illegal. AoC here is 16 not 18.

Just remember that wrongdoing like mandelson is only observed because eostein was convicted. He may well have done the same thing with many others whose documents have not been seized.

#epstein has become like #metoo.

A moral crusade where just knowing the slimeball is enough to have you cancelled.
Hell, even JK Rowling is getting it in the neck because her agents offered tickets to Epstein!!

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Epstein/trafficking- nothing to do with UK😂😂😂

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CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 09/02/2026 08:44

Daygloboo · 09/02/2026 01:37

Epstein/trafficking- nothing to do with UK😂😂😂

Since you seem to find the concept hilarious, what exactly does it have to do with the UK?

Did we facilitate it?
Did we condone it?

Why are you not similarly enraged about child prostitution, coercion, and trafficking in other countries?

Why are you so triggered by Epstein?

Daygloboo · 09/02/2026 09:20

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 09/02/2026 08:44

Since you seem to find the concept hilarious, what exactly does it have to do with the UK?

Did we facilitate it?
Did we condone it?

Why are you not similarly enraged about child prostitution, coercion, and trafficking in other countries?

Why are you so triggered by Epstein?

Definitions for a start. My definition of a useful idiot is a person of limited range and access who is chosen for rather specific tasks. I would not call AMW that. He had extensive access and could pretty much pass info between any number of people, thus being a danger to our security. So while I'd call him a loose cannon, I wouldn't minimise him into a useful idiot.
And I dont understand why me being in incandecent ovwr the likes of AMW and Mandelson betraying their country means I'm not also disgusted by other coercions and scandals too.

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