To just not understand why men are so lazy

[Eastie77Returns]

I know, I know NAMALT but I don’t see the kind of behaviour I witnessed today from women.

I was in the gym restaurant with DS. Two men sitting next to us drinking tea. One of them dropped his cup and the tea went everywhere, all over the table and dripping on the floor. Both men laughed hysterically and the one who dropped the cup made a half hearted attempt to mop up some of it with a couple of tissues and then gave up and just carried on chatting. Meanwhile the tea is continuing to drip everywhere and there is a huge puddle under the table that he is placing his feet in leaving smears and mess everywhere. Eventually he takes a gym towel, puts it on the floor over the tea and puts his feet on top. When they had finished chatting both men got up and left, the sodden towel on the floor and the table in a disgusting sticky mess. Felt so bad for the cafe staff and I helped clear up (while conscious I am not sending a good message to DS re. women clearing up after men). I just find it infuriating!

Unfortunately, I think you are right. I would prefer that we blame the parents rather than just the mothers, but it is probably more the mothers since up till about the last ten years mothers routinely did most of the care.
I will say my MIL did a fantastic job with DH so it is not all mothers and men at all.

I think it does not occur to them that somebody else will have to do the labour of cleaning up. Or if it does they just think it's somebody's job so it's fine for them to have to do it.

It's true it's not unique to men but there are a lot more men than women who are like this. Essentially I think it's a sign that someone has never been expected to pitch in generally with jobs like cleaning, or has always had someone cleaning up after them so they haven't developed the skill for anticipating that whatever they are doing is going to cause a problem. Children don't have this for example but most adults do develop it.

There are quite a few areas where men out perform women in awfulness but I’m not sure that cafe slob is one of them, judging by the messes left behind by the mums with babies.

Everyone is calm here dear, except the man who hasn’t seen how old this thread is, any chance to put women in their place eh.