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To agree with the Guardian about the Netflix coverage of the Lucy letby case?

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justwandered · 04/02/2026 11:49

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/feb/04/the-investigation-of-lucy-letby-review-netflix?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other]]

I honestly don’t think I’ve come across a show in such poor taste before and I am no stranger to stories about murder and the like.

It crosses a huge line in terms of stripping individuals of their dignity.

I don’t plan on watching it but when I turned Netflix on the other night to put a TV show on for my children there it was - horrid and completely unnecessary.

The Investigation of Lucy Letby review – this sensationalist take isn’t what this awful case needs

The broad-brush, emotive telling of the questions around the neonatal nurse’s conviction uses arrest footage that her parents have said ‘would likely kill us’ if they watched. Did her mother’s howl of distress need to be broadcast?

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/feb/04/the-investigation-of-lucy-letby-review-netflix?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other%5D%5D

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QOrion · 04/02/2026 17:37

Aquarius91 · 04/02/2026 17:32

Sorry? I was agreeing with you.

I understand that. I was trying to explain (not very well it seems) that a previous comment that quoted me made out I said something outrageous but that your post just showed that I hadn’t said anything particularly remarkable.

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 04/02/2026 17:37

JoyfulSpring · 04/02/2026 15:11

The beginning couple of minutes with her mother wailing is extremely hard to watch. It's actually done the police no favours as it's humanised Lucy even more in my view.

@Aquarius91 good to see you've got all your information of the case from the daily fail. There's a lot more to it if you have a read.

I've just put this on, i didn't really follow the case at the time
Her mum has me sobbing. I'm sure its nothing compared to what the babies parents went through, but that pain was visceral.

Cola32 · 04/02/2026 17:39

curiositykilledthiscat · 04/02/2026 17:02

Having said that, it’s undeniable that a lot of the sympathy for Lucy Letby is because she reminds the Great (white) British public of their daughters, nieces, granddaughters and goddaughters.

Such a silly and reductive thing to say. You don’t know this, it’s just your opinion.

Shamima Begum has plenty of support despite being an unrepentant terrorist and being unquestionably guilty.

Race doesn’t come into it, especially when the babies kills were likely also white. You’d think that babies dying would appeal to emotion more than a grown white woman.

Doesn’t quite add up as an argument that people were so enamoured by an average looking white lady.

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 04/02/2026 17:40

We seem to assume that miscarriages of justice never happen.

Given the post office scandel been rumbling on for decades and there have been so many other miscarriages that always seems odd to me.

Also I know the NHS staff lie and change or misplace notes there lots of arse covering which TBH as there often a culture of blame do get but my famlily been on end of that and it makes everything worse.

I actually don't know if* *Lucy Letby guilty of not - but I do have concerns about her conviction because so many experts have publically spoken out since.

I do think it's become very clear it was a badly run unit with some serious concerns about it.

InSightOfLand · 04/02/2026 17:41

The Netflix documentary is the first TV one (there are excellent podcasts) I've seen which is more balanced - the others available are far too influenced by her 'supporters' and their uninformed investment in a 'miscarriage of justice' drama. If Letby was some middle-aged Philippino bloke, none of these people would be trying to argue his innocence on the same evidence.

It's good to see some of the police footage revealing the number of opportunities she had to explain evidence but refused to. Her fans have since retrofitted 'explanations' for many items in the interviews which, were she innocent, she could have cleared up at the time. Just like she could waive privilege and allow her current self-publicist of a lawyer to see the notes and conversations between her and her (excellent) trial barrister, including why no witnesses were called to refute the medical evidence in her defence - but she won't waive that privilege. The documentary could have better emphasised that Dewi Evans was by no means alone in his assessments and a team of other relevant medical experts backed his conclusions (and continue to).

Anyone who has read the transcripts of Letby's police interviews, who actually followed the vast amount of detailed evidence from the trial and especially anyone who saw Letby give evidence in court should have no doubt as to her guilt. She is nearly at the end of the appeals process, the CCRC won't be overturning all that evidence and I hope Letby will fade into history as she serves her whole-life sentence.

So utterly sad that a cavalcade of self-publicists, tru-crimers, uninformed commentators and creepy onanists who 'support' a murderer of newborns are prepared to keep on trolling the parents whose babies were murdered.

Stillhere83 · 04/02/2026 17:42

Aquarius91 · 04/02/2026 15:01

The “poor woman” was convicted in court of murdering multiple children. Sick of internet detectives who know nothing spouting this crap. Think of the poor parents of those babies who have to read this.

It's not internet detectives, it's neonatal and forensic experts with a much higher level of expertise and experience than those that were rolled out by the prosecution. You clearly haven't looked very deeply into it if that's what you think. There's a reason the CPS recently declined to prosecute on further charges Cheshire police wanted to bring.

ETA - it's terrible what the parents have gone through, but that doesn't mean someone should stay in jail if they're innocent. The parents deserve the true facts, not a scapegoat for widespread medical failings.

curiositykilledthiscat · 04/02/2026 17:46

@InSightOfLand Is that all that there is that’s new? More footage of her not talking under questioning? Well, case closed!

Anyahyacinth · 04/02/2026 17:47

Aquarius91 · 04/02/2026 16:00

Absolute joke considering the conspiracy theorists are out in force e here who’s primary information source is probably TikTok and you tube. How arrogant to assume you know more than the expert witnesses and jury who have actually heard the evidence.
Am I saying with 100% certainty there wasn’t a miscarriage of justice? Of course not, I’m not that arrogant. But I trust the justice system in this country and believe that posting stuff like this when there are bereaved parents potentially reading is absolutely crass.

World leading experts for paediatric intensive care ...have ALL thrown doubt on the experts and opinions the UK police used. The mode of death suggested is not even accepted as POSSIBLE by senior medical experts (injecting air). The tests for insulin levels are worthless as the wrong tests were used and decomposition increases levels naturally..They had to drop some unexpected deaths because their chosen fall guy wasn't on duty. So much information has been reviewed now to seriously throw doubt on the convictions...please seek out the New Yorker article about her case. Read it and be appalled at the cover up. These babies were too sick even to be cared for in this unit...it's a massive scandal.

ZoeCM · 04/02/2026 17:49

QOrion · 04/02/2026 16:55

Absolutely!

I have no idea if Lucy Letby is guilty of murder. If her crimes are incompetence and/or negligence, in combination with systemic failures then I want her murder sentence to be quashed and for her to face appropriate consequences, not a murder sentence.

Having said that, it’s undeniable that a lot of the sympathy for Lucy Letby is because she reminds the Great (white) British public of their daughters, nieces, granddaughters and goddaughters. That’s what got so many people, professionals and laypeople, reviewing the case, unpaid, in their spare time.

I knew people would be surprised that a nice-looking young woman like her was found to be guilty of murder. I just didn’t expect people to actually write that down. But they did. On Mumsnet threads immediately after she was convicted, people wrote how she didn’t look the sort. Which just goes to show how superficial much of the public are.

A person who kills multiple newborn babies is clearly a psychopath. Beautiful people can’t be psychopaths? I’m just glad Letby wasn’t being shadowed by a portly, older ethnic minority student nurse or the murders would probably have been attributed to the student nurse instead.

I thought the same at first. I thought the British public just didn't want to accept that a harmless-looking white woman could be a serial killer of children. But looking into the case, I do think there are some credible concerns about the safety of Letby's conviction.

JoyfulSpring · 04/02/2026 17:54

@InSightOfLand

"Evans was by no means alone in his assessments and a team of other relevant medical experts backed his conclusions (and continue to)."

Please can you give me at least one name of an expert who continues to support Evans' conclusions on how the babies died? I would genuinely like to look into that and find out their views.

MaidOfSteel · 04/02/2026 17:54

I don’t have Netflix so won’t see the documentary. But I was listening to Ian Payne on LBC this morning and he was talking about a conversation with his sister in law (I think) who is a doctor in this field, absolutely convinced of Letby’s guilt, and she said that they are so good at saving intensive care babies nowadays, that the death rate is incredibly low. And since Lucy Letby left the unit, there have been more than 500 ICU babies and there hasn’t been a single death.

I really don’t know what to make of it all, but this doctor’s opinion really stood out to me.

FairKoala · 04/02/2026 17:54

Aquarius91 · 04/02/2026 15:01

The “poor woman” was convicted in court of murdering multiple children. Sick of internet detectives who know nothing spouting this crap. Think of the poor parents of those babies who have to read this.

But would she have been convicted if everyone had told the truth and there had been no cover up

Sweetiedarling7 · 04/02/2026 17:56

Enrichetta · 04/02/2026 15:08

I agree. This case has more holes than my colander. She was sacrificed to save a failing neonatal unit and the doctors who were in charge.

Agreed.
This is a huge miscarriage of justice but nobody in authority wants to admit they were wrong.

Snowyowl99 · 04/02/2026 17:57

Aquarius91 · 04/02/2026 15:01

The “poor woman” was convicted in court of murdering multiple children. Sick of internet detectives who know nothing spouting this crap. Think of the poor parents of those babies who have to read this.

You've nailed it. Totally agree

Changedmynameagain20 · 04/02/2026 17:57

I have no idea whether she did it, but I do think the jury didn't understand how statistics work and some of the evidence presented was misleading.

Aquarius91 · 04/02/2026 17:57

QOrion · 04/02/2026 17:37

I understand that. I was trying to explain (not very well it seems) that a previous comment that quoted me made out I said something outrageous but that your post just showed that I hadn’t said anything particularly remarkable.

Ah sorry, I get you 😊

Lifeomars · 04/02/2026 17:57

It must be totally re-traumatising for the bereaved parents.

JLou08 · 04/02/2026 17:58

Aquarius91 · 04/02/2026 16:00

Absolute joke considering the conspiracy theorists are out in force e here who’s primary information source is probably TikTok and you tube. How arrogant to assume you know more than the expert witnesses and jury who have actually heard the evidence.
Am I saying with 100% certainty there wasn’t a miscarriage of justice? Of course not, I’m not that arrogant. But I trust the justice system in this country and believe that posting stuff like this when there are bereaved parents potentially reading is absolutely crass.

People on a jury are no more qualified than people on the internet. There are conflicting opinions of experts and there is a lot of evidence out in the public domain around this case. You cannot say the people questioning this are conspiracy theorists. You are naive to trust the justice system blindly and think no one had the right to question it. Jury's are made up of normal people. Yes, evidence is required to even get into court, but once there the verdict is based on the quality of the legal team.

TheIceBear · 04/02/2026 17:59

Her friend is well spoken and brave to go on it. Not saying I believe Lucy is guilty or innocent I actually don’t know. But she is lucky to have a loyal friend like that

Snowyowl99 · 04/02/2026 17:59

Enrichetta · 04/02/2026 16:24

It has not been established beyond reasonable doubt that any of the babies who died were actually murdered. These were gravely ill babies who could have died at any time, and there simply is not enough evidence to support the conclusion that they were murdered.

You were in court then?

Ohfuckrucksack · 04/02/2026 17:59

I agree with the panel of Dr Shoo Lee and also the paediatric coroner who examined the neonates and concluded natural causes.

If there is any harm here it is clinicial negligence by the medical team

JoyfulSpring · 04/02/2026 18:03

@MaidOfSteel The unit that Lucy worked on specifically was downgraded after she left so they no longer take babies requiring the highest level of care. Of course I'm sure they'll have cleared up the shit in the sinks as well...

AtIusvue · 04/02/2026 18:04

I find it astonishing the numbers of people that seem to think they know better and that she’s innocent.

She was tried in a court of law, with representation, in front of her peers and was found guilty.

Somehow if she wasn’t a plain Jane, white woman…..I doubt she would have as many supporters. Her supporters fascination with her is macabre and truly grim.

routineiskey · 04/02/2026 18:08

Lifeomars · 04/02/2026 17:57

It must be totally re-traumatising for the bereaved parents.

I actually know one of the families. It’s tearing them apart as they don’t know what to think and feel very let down, they are either facing the reality that yes she did do this or that the unit they thought their precious baby was being cared on and safe in was anything but safe. The want the truth, the conviction didn’t bring closure as there are too many questions and the for them it would be worse it the unit was responsible and then a cover up caused unthinkable trauma if they were misled into believing their baby was murdered when it was potentially medical negligence. They are going through hell and just want the truth.

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