To agree with the Guardian about the Netflix coverage of the Lucy letby case?

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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/feb/04/the-investigation-of-lucy-letby-review-netflix?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other]]

I honestly don’t think I’ve come across a show in such poor taste before and I am no stranger to stories about murder and the like.

It crosses a huge line in terms of stripping individuals of their dignity.

I don’t plan on watching it but when I turned Netflix on the other night to put a TV show on for my children there it was - horrid and completely unnecessary.

And the reason he didn't/couldn't is because at the time people thought the experts the prosecution had were credible, people thought the consultants testifying against her were actually being truthful. There was "agreed facts" in court that now turn out not to be facts at all.

Not sure what your question is. You can't really make strong, predictable assumptions about how anyone else will act, especially in situations where they are under strain and heavily medicated. What I would remember, forget, and explain in the circumstances you describe is meaningless if I just type it out now from my nice safe home.

When you leave people waiting a year under terrible strain, then conduct a dawn raid and handcuff them and take them down to the station, you are obviously going to get someone stressed and confused in for questioning.

I've seen that justified on the basis that suspects may give away something vital, but it's pretty clumsy psychology. It's like the pragmatic argument against torture - it won't actually get you high quality information. In this case, it throws up noise. Did she lie? Forget? Hoard? Neglect?

Before going too much down the rabbit hole, you need to consider whether it matters. Does the fact that she has lots of handover sheets mean that she murdered anyone? Clearly not. Why does it all matter, then? Did they search anyone else's house for handover sheets? I can't really understand why people think it's important

Isn't she referring to the fact that Shoo Lee's paper was used in the prosecution case? Yes the investigation was commissioned by the defence but Shoo Lee actively wanted to do it because he realised his paper had been wrongly used.

I think it was her parents shredder and she didn't realise they still had it, or hadn't really looked for it. The fact she didn't get rid of them does not make her a murderer though, might make her lazy or whatever but it doesn't mean she murdered anyone.

Have you done jury service?
I have.
Its terrifying that they let stupid people and idiots make decisions.

Before going too much down the rabbit hole, you need to consider whether it matters. Does the fact that she has lots of handover sheets mean that she murdered anyone? Clearly not. Why does it all matter, then? Did they search anyone else's house for handover sheets? I can't really understand why people think it's important

It's because too many people fancy themselves as psychological experts, great judges of human nature. They think they know what constitutes normal as against suspicious behaviour, in a spectacularly specific situation.

Go & see Lucy letby analysis on YT they dissect the actual evidence. They interview a previous senior nurse who worked on the unit who is very knowledgeable.
I thought from the info I read, the grievance was about them bullying her why would the doctors had to apologise to her otherwise? she was moved off the unit to protect her from the doctors who were openly calling her nurse death. I think the doctors said they would go to the press if they weren’t allowed to go to the police. The trust backed down. At that point even the police said there was no evidence to suggest any wrong doing until Demi Evan’s was involved.
maybe I have interpreted the info wrongly but that is as I understand it.

Also very difficult in the UK to find a medic that would speak for the defence, because what happened to the last doctor that spoke up. She was a forensic pathologist she queried the shaken baby hypothesis as it wasn’t fact it was just one doctors opinion ( similar to dr Evan’s) because she did that the police reported her to the GMC she got struck off. She did get reinstated to the register but her career was over. So now no doctors in the UK will appear for the defence. Also a reason why Dr Lees panel was made up of experts from outside the uk except one but she was not appearing in court so they ( powers at be) must feel that this is not as much of a risk, still very brave of her to stand up for truth.

Oh sorry I was going on the facts of where they were found rather than the documentary.

The documentary had pictures of the box they were in, so it is a fact.

Ridiculous, of course people shred at home. People chuck all sorts away.

The idea that LL was so conscientious about security and privacy is laughable given how how avidly she was stalking these parents on Facebook and invading their privacy.

Of course some people shred some things at home, yes.

Oh I was going by police FOI & body cam footage.

43.00 talks about handover sheets
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They were found in several places, most of them in a carrier bag.

Yeah and just because she hadn't shredded them doesn't make her a murderer. People latching on to the handover sheets like it's some sort of smoking gun really need to step back and think about what it shows....which is precisely nothing.

Before Covid it was common practice to go home in uniform most of us took our work sheet home in our pockets, lots of times we had worked 12 hours no breaks still got off late, the last thing we thought of doing was shredding worksheets. If there had been a problem & we may be called to write a statement even more need to have this sheet so we can see what tasks we did during our time on duty.

Have you read the thread? I did say the handover sheets are not proof of murder.

Then why do people keep banging on about them as if they actually mean anything?

It's all they've got. That and equally tenuous and exaggerated irrelevancies.

Scores of qualified experts say the medical and scientific evidence for murder doesn't exist, so Netflix needed some Drama on the other side of the account, since they went for the simplest possible format and asked no questions as they drove their narrative along.

It's all they've got. That and equally tenuous and exaggerated irrelevancies.

Scores of qualified experts say the medical and scientific evidence for murder doesn't exist, so Netflix needed some Drama on the other side of the account, since they went for the simplest possible format and asked no questions as they drove their narrative along.

If she’d only taken the sheets of the babies who died, you’d have more of argument about them being a trophy. The reality is she had notes from lots of babies- many who survived and went home
with their parents.

It was a really tenuous link, the notes thing. It really doesn’t give us any clues into anything other than she was a bit of a paper hoarder.

International experts have very clearly said that those babies were no murdered. They died as a result of the crap NHS. I trust those experts.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the nurses had been washing their own uniforms, maybe someone else can confirm that or correct?

I agree it's a breach of policy and confidentiality, it doesn't mean she murdered babies though.

Yes we washed our own uniforms for at least 10yrs +