Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Drag Queen Storytime at my local library (photo attached)

756 replies

Carla786 · 03/02/2026 18:59

I had a lovely trip to my local library yesterday. Spent a long time there choosing books, basically the whole time there was a very noisy toddler event going on in the next room. I didn't mind, they host a lot of stuff for various people & that's good.

As I left, I looked at the posters of various things they were advertising. I saw one for 'Mama G', clearly a drag queen, which I photographed for identification purposes. I thought this nonsense of drag story hours might be quietening down, but clearly not at my library. I'd never seen them advertise anything like that before 🤦‍♀️

Checking the photo when I got home, I saw the event had taken place that day, while I was choosing my books. I wasn't listening particularly hard, but from what I heard it sounded more like a 'panto dame' style event than anything sexualised. It still seems odd and inadvisable though. If a drag Queen wants to do panto style entertainment for kids too, he should have a separate line in that, rather than mixing it up. 'Drag queen shows ' are by nature sexual and adult, so 'drag queen' shows blur boundaries whatever the content/intention.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
25
Bilster · 09/02/2026 22:28

Verytall · 09/02/2026 22:17

Not according to the logic on this thread. They're not allowed to like clothes that are considered feminine, or make up, or acting (emotionally) in a way that is considered feminine, or to have any interest in the wellbeing of children. What exactly is left for them?

I don’t understand what you mean by ‘what exactly is left for them?’ How about they take part in a sport, go visit family, go to the pub with their mates, go out to dinner, go to work. Normal stuff. Do drag queens dress as prostitutes because they’re bored?

Bilster · 09/02/2026 22:29

Verytall · 09/02/2026 22:27

If you think that an older man wearing a big rainbow coloured below the knee dress with puffy sleeves, pale face paint and a tall ginger wig is 'sexual' then I think that says more about you really. Not to kinkshame or anything.

If you think that’s not a kink then you’re incredibly naive!

Verytall · 09/02/2026 22:34

Bilster · 09/02/2026 22:28

I don’t understand what you mean by ‘what exactly is left for them?’ How about they take part in a sport, go visit family, go to the pub with their mates, go out to dinner, go to work. Normal stuff. Do drag queens dress as prostitutes because they’re bored?

Edit: sorry I was responding to the other poster who said they were allowed to be 'feminine'' You I can't think of anything considered feminine that they're allowed to do, according to the terfs on the this thread. I don't think many people would consider going to the pub with mates to watch sport to be particularly enjoying their feminine side.

Verytall · 09/02/2026 22:34

Bilster · 09/02/2026 22:29

If you think that’s not a kink then you’re incredibly naive!

Oh I'm sure it is, I was just a little surprised at the particular posters tendancies!

justtheotheronemrswembley · 09/02/2026 23:44

I detect the whiff of an agenda here, and it isn't anything to do with child safeguarding in libraries or the careers of musical theatre performers, panto or otherwise.

KeepPumping · 09/02/2026 23:48

Bilster · 09/02/2026 22:28

I don’t understand what you mean by ‘what exactly is left for them?’ How about they take part in a sport, go visit family, go to the pub with their mates, go out to dinner, go to work. Normal stuff. Do drag queens dress as prostitutes because they’re bored?

They could also do adult drag shows when they are bored with all the other stuff?

BeanQuisine · 09/02/2026 23:58

Verytall · 09/02/2026 22:34

Edit: sorry I was responding to the other poster who said they were allowed to be 'feminine'' You I can't think of anything considered feminine that they're allowed to do, according to the terfs on the this thread. I don't think many people would consider going to the pub with mates to watch sport to be particularly enjoying their feminine side.

Edited

There are plenty of men out there with interests and manners traditionally regarded as "feminine", who don't feel any need to mock women or claim to be women themselves.

I know a chap who's very much into embroidery and who presents in graceful clothes (many of which he makes himself) with a very gentle manner, and I have no objection to him at all, and I'm sure the other "terfs" on this thread would have no problem with such men either.

Verytall · 10/02/2026 00:15

Oh so they're allowed to behave like dainty women from the past then? How very gracious of you.

BeanQuisine · 10/02/2026 00:19

Verytall · 10/02/2026 00:15

Oh so they're allowed to behave like dainty women from the past then? How very gracious of you.

The man I described isn't behaving "like a woman" at all. He's behaving like himself.

The only objections to male behaviour in this thread are concerned with men who mock women while seeking dubious influence over young children.

Verytall · 10/02/2026 00:42

Very demure, very mindful. Got it.

BeanQuisine · 10/02/2026 00:47

Verytall · 10/02/2026 00:42

Very demure, very mindful. Got it.

?

You're not making much sense.

Carla786 · 10/02/2026 01:04

justtheotheronemrswembley · 09/02/2026 23:44

I detect the whiff of an agenda here, and it isn't anything to do with child safeguarding in libraries or the careers of musical theatre performers, panto or otherwise.

What do you think it is?

OP posts:
TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 10/02/2026 02:12

justtheotheronemrswembley · 09/02/2026 23:44

I detect the whiff of an agenda here, and it isn't anything to do with child safeguarding in libraries or the careers of musical theatre performers, panto or otherwise.

What is it then?

justtheotheronemrswembley · 10/02/2026 14:53

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 10/02/2026 02:12

What is it then?

Read between the lines and all will become clear. I'm not going to accuse anyone of anything, but it really is obvious when you engage the grey matter.

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 10/02/2026 22:12

justtheotheronemrswembley · 10/02/2026 14:53

Read between the lines and all will become clear. I'm not going to accuse anyone of anything, but it really is obvious when you engage the grey matter.

That’s very cryptic, can you be more specific please?

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 06:45

justtheotheronemrswembley · 09/02/2026 23:44

I detect the whiff of an agenda here, and it isn't anything to do with child safeguarding in libraries or the careers of musical theatre performers, panto or otherwise.

What 'agenda' would that be? Feminism maybe? Is that an 'agenda'? And if it is, is it such a bad one to have? Unlike the agenda of child exploitation/child abuse and woman and removing womens rights? Damn fucking right I'd prefer to have my agenda than the latter. And PROUD of it!!!

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 06:46

BeanQuisine · 10/02/2026 00:47

?

You're not making much sense.

Nothing they've said on here makes much sense.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 06:48

justtheotheronemrswembley · 10/02/2026 14:53

Read between the lines and all will become clear. I'm not going to accuse anyone of anything, but it really is obvious when you engage the grey matter.

Ah, so you don't have the guts to come right out and say it, just smears and innuendo. Not surprised you can't defend your own position.

Verytall · 11/02/2026 08:54

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 06:46

Nothing they've said on here makes much sense.

To you it doesn't, wonder why. Plenty of other posters have been perfectly capable of comprehending and discussing, even if we don't fully agree.

If you really need it spelling out, it was reference to a meme that relates to your bizarre statement - where you think you're allowed to police what men wear, but that you tolerate them 'being gentle and doing embroidery'
Quite why you think you have the right to police other people's behaviour I don't know, it is breathtakingly arrogant.

Bilster · 11/02/2026 08:58

Verytall · 09/02/2026 22:34

Edit: sorry I was responding to the other poster who said they were allowed to be 'feminine'' You I can't think of anything considered feminine that they're allowed to do, according to the terfs on the this thread. I don't think many people would consider going to the pub with mates to watch sport to be particularly enjoying their feminine side.

Edited

I’m a woman. I go to the pub with my friends. That’s literally a feminine activity.

Oh did you mean ‘they have no cliche-d stereotypes of women that they are allowed to make fun of’?

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 11/02/2026 09:03

Verytall · 11/02/2026 08:54

To you it doesn't, wonder why. Plenty of other posters have been perfectly capable of comprehending and discussing, even if we don't fully agree.

If you really need it spelling out, it was reference to a meme that relates to your bizarre statement - where you think you're allowed to police what men wear, but that you tolerate them 'being gentle and doing embroidery'
Quite why you think you have the right to police other people's behaviour I don't know, it is breathtakingly arrogant.

Your post that Blackcat was responding to didn’t make any sense to me either. The hit that also doesn’t make sense to me is that despite all the evidence that it’s not beneficial for children and in some cases is quite harmful, you are determined to support this very niche activity for men.

Meanwhile you seem to be the one prescribing which behaviour is appropriately ‘feminine’ or ‘masculine’ and throw in a slur against women for good measure.

Verytall · 09/02/2026 22:34
Edit: sorry I was responding to the other poster who said they were allowed to be 'feminine'' You I can't think of anything considered feminine that they're allowed to do, according to the terfs on the this thread. I don't think many people would consider going to the pub with mates to watch sport to be particularly enjoying their feminine side.

Verytall · 11/02/2026 09:05

Bilster · 11/02/2026 08:58

I’m a woman. I go to the pub with my friends. That’s literally a feminine activity.

Oh did you mean ‘they have no cliche-d stereotypes of women that they are allowed to make fun of’?

Why is the line drawn about men wearing dresses or make up or heels, or acting like a 'diva'? All of which have been described on this thread as concrete examples of misogyny and perversion.
As a woman I can choose to do pretty much any traditionally masculine thing I want to do, whether that's a hobby, the clothes I wear, the job I do. Why do you think it's ok to pick and choose what men are allowed to do? Multiple posters have insisted on here that if a man chooses to wear a dress that they have a (unrecognised) psychiatric condition, that they are perverts, and that if they are around children they are all, automatically, grooming those children for sexual abuse. Do you think that's ok?

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 09:21

Verytall · 11/02/2026 08:54

To you it doesn't, wonder why. Plenty of other posters have been perfectly capable of comprehending and discussing, even if we don't fully agree.

If you really need it spelling out, it was reference to a meme that relates to your bizarre statement - where you think you're allowed to police what men wear, but that you tolerate them 'being gentle and doing embroidery'
Quite why you think you have the right to police other people's behaviour I don't know, it is breathtakingly arrogant.

Ok, then lets not police what non-black people wear. Lets bring back blackface, since you think everything goes. And I say this as a POC myself. You are being disingenuous and you know it. These misogynistic pigs are mocking women, complete with talking about 'smelling like fish' and names like 'Anna Abortion' and 'Miss Carriage'.

Lets bring back blackface then, since you want a free-for-all to mock oppressed groups.

Verytall · 11/02/2026 09:25

The fact that you read that and think it means I support blackface proves my point entirely. You're reading things that aren't there because of how skewed your inherent bias is on this subject. I can't imagine carrying that much hate and fear, it seems to weigh pretty heavily.

ThatBlackCat · 11/02/2026 09:42

Verytall · 11/02/2026 09:25

The fact that you read that and think it means I support blackface proves my point entirely. You're reading things that aren't there because of how skewed your inherent bias is on this subject. I can't imagine carrying that much hate and fear, it seems to weigh pretty heavily.

The fact that you don't see that there is no difference between blackface and womenface, is the problem! The fact that you have so much hate in your heart for womens rights, and rape and DV survivors needs, says everything.

Drag Queen Storytime at my local library (photo attached)
Drag Queen Storytime at my local library (photo attached)
Swipe left for the next trending thread