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How to pass a driving test without lessons

164 replies

Bilster · 03/02/2026 14:27

My daughter is keen to pass her driving test. Her dad lives a 8 miles away, can’t drive for medical reasons and the bus there takes ages, so I drop her off and pick her up with her doing the driving and me sitting next to her. We’ve been doing this for a while and she’s a natural. She’s driving perfectly now.

She’s booked a test for 2 months time amd ever since she booked it I have been trying to get her driving lessons. There are just no instructors near us with any availability. I’ve been trying for a few months with no luck. What would it take for her to pass her test with no lessons? What is she likely to fail on? Any tips very welcome cause I’m feeling desperate and don’t want to have to ask her to put the test back.

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Rocknrollstar · 03/02/2026 20:51

I think you need to check the law. I believe you have to have a booklet that is signed and shows you have been taught and practiced various manoeuvres.

CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 03/02/2026 20:51

Rocknrollstar · 03/02/2026 20:51

I think you need to check the law. I believe you have to have a booklet that is signed and shows you have been taught and practiced various manoeuvres.

No you don’t.

WrigglyDonCat · 03/02/2026 20:52

CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 03/02/2026 20:51

No you don’t.

Correct. Not in the UK. Some countries do have such a system.

EDIT: really not in GB. I don't know if it's the case in NI and don't want some smart arse catching me out.

CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 03/02/2026 20:53

Calliopespa · 03/02/2026 20:17

Definitely MSM. I have seldom seen this executed by drivers who have had their licence for a while! I was driving to an event with a friend a while back and she did not do it once on a 2 hour drive. She would just indicate and move.

That is fucking terrifying

Hardlyhardyhardy · 03/02/2026 20:55

My uncle is an examiner. He says plenty of people fail who have had lessons. He thinks someone who hasn’t had lessons doesn’t stand a chance.

WrigglyDonCat · 03/02/2026 20:56

Hardlyhardyhardy · 03/02/2026 20:55

My uncle is an examiner. He says plenty of people fail who have had lessons. He thinks someone who hasn’t had lessons doesn’t stand a chance.

Don't believe an examiner said that for a second unless he is an examiner on the planet Zorg. Many, many people pass without formal lessons every year.

Whattodo1610 · 03/02/2026 20:56

WrigglyDonCat · 03/02/2026 20:50

Sorry to pick on one person, but this beautifully highlights why asking randos on the internet about driving and driving tests is a really bad idea. Everyone thinks they know, but almost noone actually does...

  • MSM every time - important but not as important as you might think
  • Checking mirrors every 8 seconds - completely irrelevant - regular checks are good but not required to pass a test
  • Blind spots in manos matter - but there aren't set times when you have to do them (other than before you start moving - and even then it isn't in itself a serious fault, but could lead to one)
  • Hand position on the wheel doesn't matter - control of the car and its position does - how you achieve it is not relevant
  • Coasting is rarely the problem you imply - it could lead to faults but in itself isn't a fault and most learners coast to some degree
  • Handbrake doesn't matter in the way you think - you can pass a test and never use the handbrake between start and finish - indeed I have had a clean sheet where the examiner actually remarked on it
  • Shouldn't be changing gears in anticipation of a hazard, you should be changing speed in anticipation of a hazard and changing gear when you need to supply drive again and know what gear is relevant for the speed you are doing

Tbh if she doesn’t even know about needing to follow a sat nav as part of the test, then she has double no chance.

If she doesn’t do/makes mistakes on all of that list then she will fail. Once not doing it is minor, twice hmm dodgy ground, three times, repeatedly, you’ve no clue, fail.

WrigglyDonCat · 03/02/2026 20:59

Whattodo1610 · 03/02/2026 20:56

Tbh if she doesn’t even know about needing to follow a sat nav as part of the test, then she has double no chance.

If she doesn’t do/makes mistakes on all of that list then she will fail. Once not doing it is minor, twice hmm dodgy ground, three times, repeatedly, you’ve no clue, fail.

As most learners follow a satnav no problem from the off I am not worried if she is a competent driver. I rarely have to actually teach anything about satnav - I just put it on and off they go.

And that isn't how driver and serious faults work. Fairly close, but not correct.
Typically you can make the same mistake 3 times and the fourth will be a serious. But that is not set in stone. You can have more DFs in a category and get away with it, or fewer and get a serious for a repeated fault.

Yestocoffeeatnight86 · 03/02/2026 20:59

Anononony · 03/02/2026 20:07

I had to learn reverse around a corner, reverse into a parking bay and turn in the road, passed 2016

Just checked and reversing around a corner was removed from the practical test in 2017, my maths was off, that was the year I passes, thought it was 2015 for some reason.

creamcakesintherain · 03/02/2026 21:05

Wife of a driving instructor here. Lots of instructors won't take pupils they haven't taught from scratch,getting the bad habits out is really difficult ! My husband does, but has also had lots who book them continually cancel because in reality they only want to use the instructors car for the test. Instructors will as a general rule not allow this, risk of accidents etc and they are monitored on passes and fails so aren't going to take the chance on someone they aren't confident will pass.

OldMaaa · 03/02/2026 21:05

I had about 4 proper driving lessons, to grasp the basics, and then drove daily with my dad. We did the same commute to work (45 mins each way - busy dual carriageway, country lanes, A roads, big roundabouts - lots of experience of different road types and conditions basically).

When he started falling asleep on the way home we booked my test. I think I was driving like this for about 8-12 weeks beforehand.

We also drove around the town where I had booked my test and did some of the possible test routes (he may have stalked the test centre a bit to see where they went). We obviously practiced the manoeuvres too.

I passed first time with 4 minors.

OldMaaa · 03/02/2026 21:06

(I did my test in my own car, not sure if that's thing now?)

MadisonAvenue · 03/02/2026 21:07

When you say she drove when you went on holiday, did she drive on any motorways? If so, this is illegal. Learners can only drive on motorways with a qualified driving instructor in a dual controlled car.

These are the most recent changes to the test, so a sat nav could potentially be used for the entire test.
Key Driving Test Changes (November 24, 2025)

  • More Focus on Speed & Rural Roads: Test routes will prioritize higher-speed roads (over 30mph) to better reflect real-world, higher-risk driving conditions.
  • Fewer Normal Stops: The number of required "pull up on the right/normal stop" manoeuvres is reduced from four to three to improve route flow.
  • Emergency Stops:The frequency of the emergency stop exercise is reduced from 1 in 3 tests to 1 in 7 tests
  • Extended Independent Driving: The independent driving section (following satnav or signs) can now last up to 40 minutes, covering the full test duration.
Lougle · 03/02/2026 21:37

TheMauveBeaker · 03/02/2026 20:16

I’m pretty sure they don’t they teach reversing round a corner anymore, or a 3-point turn - my DIL passed her test last September and wasn’t taught either of those manoeuvres.
My friend has just taken her test, without official lessons, and failed quite spectacularly. It seems the danger is learning bad habits from an experienced driver.

Two of my DDs are having their driving lessons now and I sit in the back at their request. It's really helpful because I can see what they're being taught, and their instructor talks me through the criteria for each situation as they do it. That means that I can use it to practice with them between lessons.

Reversing around a corner and three point turn still needs to be taught because if the learner accidentally pulls into a no through road during their test, the examiner will ask them to re-route onto a passable road. That might require one of those manoeuvres. It isn't tested as such, though.

The focus is on safety, so hand position on the wheel doesn't matter as long as the car is in control and each movement is safe. Similarly, a test candidate can do a 10-point turn into the bay as long as they are safe while they're doing it, don't exceed the end of the bay and end up within their white lines. They can even open the door to check their position and then correct it, as long as they've applied the handbrake before they do it. Parallel park has to be done within 2 car lengths.

There will be one 'show me' task while driving, such as 'turn on your windscreen wipers' or 'press the screen heating fan' to demonstrate that they can keep control of the wheel.

Londonrach1 · 03/02/2026 21:40

It's a lot harder now than before. Has she sat her theory

LEWWW · 03/02/2026 21:47

Has she passed her theory? Don’t think you can take a practical without first having passed your theory test.

to be fair I honestly don’t think there would be much chance of passing if not had at least a few lessons with an instructor, what about one of those intensive courses?

MadisonAvenue · 03/02/2026 21:53

LEWWW · 03/02/2026 21:47

Has she passed her theory? Don’t think you can take a practical without first having passed your theory test.

to be fair I honestly don’t think there would be much chance of passing if not had at least a few lessons with an instructor, what about one of those intensive courses?

You can’t even book a practical until you’ve passed the theory.

DurinsBane · 03/02/2026 22:10

It’s all the new rules and new manoeuvres that change all the time that she would probably get stuck on. If you passed more than a year ago, they would have changed since you did it

mondaytosunday · 03/02/2026 22:14

What did my DD in last month was nerves. And as your DD seems to have been able to practise a lot hopefully that issue won’t be too bad.
It would be great to be familiar with the streets around the test centre. Tests take up to 40 minutes now and there is a segment with the satnav directing it. No more reversing around corners @Anononony! That was always a stupid requirement!
Review the theory test. Drive the roads around the test centre. Look at YouTube videos of tests. I assume you have her on your car insurance as a learner, right? Maybe have her go out with one of your friends so she can know what it feels like driving someone who isn’t you.

mustreadmorebooks · 03/02/2026 22:35

I taught my DS to drive with just a couple of lessons towards the end to make sure we had everything covered but they didn’t correct anything and he passed. It can be done but you do have to research how people are taught to drive now as we were taught to do certain things differently and required manoeuvres have changed. However, driving is essentially still driving. I got a book which broke it down into structured lessons and covered everything you must do now which was really useful.

mustreadmorebooks · 03/02/2026 22:36

Also download the test route app for practice so they can get familiar with likely roads, roundabouts and junctions they may have to cope with.

Calliopespa · 03/02/2026 22:47

CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 03/02/2026 20:53

That is fucking terrifying

Indeed it was.

And the weird thing was some deep-rooted sense of "politeness" stopped me saying anything, though in reality I doubt she'd have acquired the habit en route. But since then I have noticed loads of people don't look before signalling; they just flick the indicator on.

TicklishMintDuck · 03/02/2026 23:03

I do think you need to try to get her some lessons. As we become more experienced drivers, we fall into “bad” habits, and an instructor will know exactly what’s expected in the test. Driving tests are expensive and hard to get, so you want to give her the best chance of passing first time.

Bilster · 03/02/2026 23:11

Rocknrollstar · 03/02/2026 20:51

I think you need to check the law. I believe you have to have a booklet that is signed and shows you have been taught and practiced various manoeuvres.

This is the UK. This is absolutely not the case.

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Bilster · 03/02/2026 23:20

MadisonAvenue · 03/02/2026 21:07

When you say she drove when you went on holiday, did she drive on any motorways? If so, this is illegal. Learners can only drive on motorways with a qualified driving instructor in a dual controlled car.

These are the most recent changes to the test, so a sat nav could potentially be used for the entire test.
Key Driving Test Changes (November 24, 2025)

  • More Focus on Speed & Rural Roads: Test routes will prioritize higher-speed roads (over 30mph) to better reflect real-world, higher-risk driving conditions.
  • Fewer Normal Stops: The number of required "pull up on the right/normal stop" manoeuvres is reduced from four to three to improve route flow.
  • Emergency Stops:The frequency of the emergency stop exercise is reduced from 1 in 3 tests to 1 in 7 tests
  • Extended Independent Driving: The independent driving section (following satnav or signs) can now last up to 40 minutes, covering the full test duration.

Of course she hasn’t been on the motorway, because she’s a learner and I know the law.

But seriously, I don’t ever have to say anything any more. She just drives. We live in a city and her dad is more rural. checking blind spots carefully is really important here due to deliveroo drivers with no lights so that’s been drummed into her. She’ll geek up on YouTube etc. the test centre we got wasn’t the nearest one (getting tests there is almost as hard as getting an instructor) so we’ll have to make some trips out to check out the possible routes.

Thanks for all of the tips. I’ve always told her that she’ll never pass without atleast some lessons so I might have psyched her out but we might not have a choice now.

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