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Why are we allowing the US to call illegal immigrants “illegal aliens”?

304 replies

KimGym · 27/01/2026 09:55

I find this absolutely sickening!!!! It’s a disgraceful term to use and I feel as though if the US are going to use this disgusting terminology, it should at the very least, be censored in other countries. It is so disrespectful and dehumanising. It’s this sort of language that leads people (hopefully only those who have lacked a basic education) to deem immigrants to be sub human, and paves the way for public acceptance of them being treated in a sub human manner. AIBU to think this is totally abhorrant?

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xanthomelana · 27/01/2026 11:05

I’m honestly starting to believe that people look for things to be offended by. They call everyone that enters the country illegal aliens, it’s not targeted at a specific demographic or group, to them it’s literally covers the whole world if they shouldn’t be there.

CaptainMyCaptain · 27/01/2026 11:05

Periperi2025 · 27/01/2026 10:57

Alien is being applied as a term in the legal and dictionary definition sense to people who are in the US but not from the US. 'Illegal alien' is a statement of fact for someone remaining there without a correct visa. Next you will be saying that the use of the term 'Asylum seeker' in the UK is derogatory.
It is the actions that MAY sometimes come alongside the use of these terms that can be a problem, but not the use of legal recognised terms when applied correctly.

Asylum seeker is a good example. The term 'lunatic asylum' tends to be thought of as a prison for the mentally ill but was actually intended as a place of safety. (How they might have been treated is a different subject altogether)

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more

asylum
/əˈsʌɪləm/

noun

the protection granted by a state to someone who has left their home country as a political refugee.
"she applied for asylum and was granted refugee status"

dated
an institution for the care of people with mental illness.

The word 'alien' was used for a foreigner before there was any concept of aliens from outer space.

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Periperi2025 · 27/01/2026 11:05

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2026 11:04

What a lot of replies with no one remembering that the Bible - and commandments in particular - are very specific on how to treat your "resident alien"

"Resident Alien" sounds like the name of a doggy 80s rap!

JillyJoy · 27/01/2026 11:06

CaptainMyCaptain · 27/01/2026 10:55

This. It's well established usage. I have a greater exception to the term 'ex pat'.

What is wrong with ex pat please?

Idontspeakgermansorry · 27/01/2026 11:07

I'm an alien spouse on my greencard application lol. It's not offensive.

ObladiObladah · 27/01/2026 11:07

The US does use language differently to us though.

I work in finance and the word “delinquent” pops up a lot in the context “you’re late sending a mandatory statutory return “.

Here we just thinking of delinquents as naughty teenagers!

NotThatSerious · 27/01/2026 11:07

KimGym · 27/01/2026 09:59

Historically, there have been lots of terms used to describe minority groups, that we have moved on from, because we have learned and realises they are not acceptable terms. Why is this any different?

Because it’s not being used as a derogatory term to bring down a race of people like the N word for example.

aliens just refers to them not being from that country. It’s been used for the longest time. I really don’t think it’s a big deal

Sskka · 27/01/2026 11:07

This must be the stupidest thread I’ve read on here. Not only objecting to the correct use of a word, but imagining that we have any say in ‘allowing’ the US to do anything!

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2026 11:10

Periperi2025 · 27/01/2026 11:05

"Resident Alien" sounds like the name of a doggy 80s rap!

Leviticus 19:33-35

(International Standard Version)

“If a resident alien lives with you in your land, you are not to mistreat him. 34 You are to treat the resident alien the same way you treat the native born among you—love him like yourself, since you were foreigners in the land of Egypt.

TheAutumnCrow · 27/01/2026 11:12

CaptainMyCaptain · 27/01/2026 10:55

This. It's well established usage. I have a greater exception to the term 'ex pat'.

I'm not a fan of 'British subject' either.

YellowPixie · 27/01/2026 11:14

KimGym · 27/01/2026 10:00

I understand that. It’s dehumanising, and I believe in this day and age, the use of this term should be stopped.

Come on. It's a difference in language between the US and the UK. Just like pavement/sidewalk or supermarket/grocery store.

In the US they talk about "handicapped parking spaces" which would not be appropriate terminology here, where we would say "disabled parking space". You cannot start demanding another country change what language is acceptable there because you don't like it.

P.S. Nobody tell her about fanny packs.

TheAutumnCrow · 27/01/2026 11:14

Anyone who thinks of Martians when discussing immigration is off their trolley.

Thank you for raaising a smile on a wet weekday morning, @HeadyLamarr Smile

nam3c4ang3 · 27/01/2026 11:15

I get called this in England by English people - its not just Americans who use it...

BrokenWing · 27/01/2026 11:17

KimGym · 27/01/2026 10:42

It’s not about the meaning as such, it’s about the words connotations.

At some point, the word “immigrant” will probably carry negative connotations for some people, not everyone, and that’s because of the context around it, not the word itself. If we keep changing language every time that happens, we’re eventually going to run out of useful, meaningful words.

I personally don’t have a problem with using the word alien in its literal sense as a descriptor. The negative meaning some people attach to it is very different from how I understand it. When I hear it, I’m definitely not thinking little green men or sci-fi, those associations just aren’t there for me, what are the connotations you are attaching to it?

AffableApple · 27/01/2026 11:17

This thread's complaint is an alien concept which must be alienated. It is alien to my understanding. It's not about little green men (aliens), which in context isn't the first thing which comes to mind.

Waterbaby41 · 27/01/2026 11:17

KimGym · 27/01/2026 10:00

I understand that. It’s dehumanising, and I believe in this day and age, the use of this term should be stopped.

Ha! My nephew lives in US for a long time - had a green card. Delighted in telling everyone he was a legal alien!

BunnyLake · 27/01/2026 11:18

”I’m an alien, I’m a legal alien, I’m an English man in New York” (Sting, 1987).

MsWilmottsGhost · 27/01/2026 11:22

HobnobsChoice · 27/01/2026 09:58

It's always been the term they used. Sting sang about it in Englishman in New York

This. It's hardly new.

When I was a kid I thought Sting was singing about evil aliens 😂

ThemUnsYouseUns · 27/01/2026 11:22

BlueJuniper94 · 27/01/2026 10:55

"People use the term 'undocumented', but I prefer to say 'someone who doesn't have papers'."

But isn't this ratcheting of ever changing language due to internal purity spirals within certain political groups - designed to obfuscate? Both sides do this, the opposing side will then press their thumbs harder on the scales and use language that they deem more appropriate or clarifying based on their set of priors.

This seems mainly to be about signalling status to ones own group, rather than a sincere attempt to de-escalate tension and minimise the risk of violence

When I hear people using hyperliberal language I assume that they're open borders people anyway and therefore, in my opinion, not sensible.

Edited

This is it exactly.

I understand where you’re coming from, OP, but I think people are getting weary of the never-ending ‘correction’ of language, particularly in relation to minorities. It’s just endless word games. I really don’t believe that the phrase ‘undocumented migrants’ (the approved term currently) will change anyone’s mind on immigration issues. And I wouldn’t be surprised if that term falls out of favour in the next few months.

There must be more practical things we can do than froth continually over the words people use.

BunnyLake · 27/01/2026 11:24

KimGym · 27/01/2026 09:59

Historically, there have been lots of terms used to describe minority groups, that we have moved on from, because we have learned and realises they are not acceptable terms. Why is this any different?

How do you know aliens aren’t beautiful and smart, I’m sure they’re not all little green beings or ET lookalikes. And without the word we wouldn't have that great song from Sting.

I’ve never come across anyone ever who took umbrage at this word.

HelpMeGetThrough · 27/01/2026 11:25

BunnyLake · 27/01/2026 11:18

”I’m an alien, I’m a legal alien, I’m an English man in New York” (Sting, 1987).

Careful, OP will be calling for Sting to be “cancelled”

BunnyLake · 27/01/2026 11:27

An alien isn’t a particilar group though. If I was illegally in the US I too would be an alien but that doesn’t mean you know what race, colour, religion, nationality, social status, age, sex I am.

Periperi2025 · 27/01/2026 11:28

TheAutumnCrow · 27/01/2026 11:14

Anyone who thinks of Martians when discussing immigration is off their trolley.

Thank you for raaising a smile on a wet weekday morning, @HeadyLamarr Smile

How do you think Starmer or Farage would handle that sort of immigration crisis?!

BunnyLake · 27/01/2026 11:29

HelpMeGetThrough · 27/01/2026 11:25

Careful, OP will be calling for Sting to be “cancelled”

Hopefully, we are past the peak of cancelling every time an overly senstive person is feeling offended on behalf of others. 🤞

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