To find it disturbing how many people are sneering at and belittling Brooklyn Beckham?

[Gahr]

I know, I know. He's rich, privileged, yadda yadda. I do get that and obviously there are many people who are far worse off.

With that said, the number of people, on here and elsewhere, who are staunchly Team Beckham and more especially Team Victoria truly disturb me. It's as if people really do believe that their children belong to them. I think that even if we allow for exaggeration, the Beckhams' behaviour has been pretty gross. I personally don't believe that Brooklyn is lying or even greatly exaggerating, their odd behaviour has been on display for a long time now. People screech about how 'ungrateful' he is but I don't really see that he owes them any huge amount of gratitude. He only released his version after they kept needling him and briefing the press to be negative about him. I'm reminded of the 'Stately Homes' thread on this site, about parents who think that they are great parents because they supplied their kids' material needs.

I think if you choose to throw your private life open to the public on social media then you have to accept that people will have opinions about you and they won't always be complimentary. I have no idea who's right or wrong in this family drama, I suspect that there's been behaviour on both sides that's unpleasant. None of us can really know for sure who's being truthful but there's always two sides a story.

????... confused

What are you confused about?

But any person can be pissed at.parents and be no contact. They don't have the air it all in the media.

Anyone else noticing the posters making the most fuss and noise are those who are 'team' BB?

Completely agree OP. So sick of this ‘evil controlling women’ trend that they all seem to be jumping on, I’m convinced they all are boy mums and just can’t cope with the fact their baby has grown and has his own opinions and makes his own choices!

Regardless of what we do or don’t know if someone says the situation isn’t right and makes them feel uncomfortable we should be listening.

It maybe that since being with Nicola, he has seen and experienced a different kind of parenting.

Both sets of families are very rich, and maybe the Peltz family never needed to include their children in their brand.

To be fair, aside from knowing that they are mega wealthy, I know nothing about the Peltz

On a tangent here, what I would say is, what a fabulous childhood Suri Cruise appears to have had. Well done Katie

When stories are constantly being printed about you and your partner do you not think he should be able to respond also publicly.

He didn’t bring the original issue into the press. He has just responded really.

He did not choose to be famous he was born into it and all that brings including sometimes having to respond publicly.

It's only relevant if you follow celebrities lives. You state it like it's a fact for everyone when I really don't think it is. It's absolutely not relevant to many many people. What patterns are you studying exactly?

I assume nobody here knows them or anything about their private lives.

YANBU. Some people are too thick to imagine that there could be two sides to the story. They can only judge it according to how they would feel, in VB’s shoes.

so is this DJ on This morning really has seen it all???

I do feel he's not going to feel any better for his outburst and he's gone from the frying pan to the fire with regards to his marriage.

I'd be worried about him if I was a friend.

He sounded drugged up to me. I wouldn't trust him to remember much of an accurate picture.

I find it odd how many people are really invested in this.
Ive had a mild curiosity as its big news but I'm suprised how the story has got legs and hasnt stopped running since it broke especially when the rest of the world feels like its imploding.

Maybe it's just escapism from the global shit show.

Considering Brooklyn and wife had editorial control over the vogue article written straight after the wedding and everything he is now saying doesn’t fit with what was said in the article. And he and wife even put on social media bits of the vogue article that don’t fit with what he is now claiming I think you are backing the wrong horse.

oh and her last boyfriend also went no contact with his family whilst dating Nicola.

What has been gross about their behaviour? Genuine question. I haven’t looked into it enough to know all of the details and from a very simple outsider perspective it does look like Brooklyn has shacked up with a new very wealthy woman and made a huge, public statement about going NC with his parents. Why the need for it? Distance yourself quietly if you must but the media storm he has whipped up is entirely his own doing.

I think most people who are team VB are probably looking at it through a mother’s eyes thinking how sad it all is. But none of us can possibly know the family dynamics.

I mean fat Tony. Not actually fat is very much wanted and respected in celeb circles. He wouldn’t jeopardise his reputation for nothing.

As someone who’s NC with my own parents I respect his decision but it’s the way he’s gone about it that doesn’t sit right with me. There was no need to make an announcement to the world then expect privacy after lighting the match. I fear Brooklyn will come out of this worse if the stories about his wife are true, she doesn’t sound much better than the parents he clearly despises.

No, we don't all gossip about "celebrities" or royalty. We don't all buy gossip magazines (in fact that's what stopped me buying women's magazines) and most of us don't give a shit about what people we don't know, and in many cases wouldn't want to know IRL, do with their trainwrecks of lives. As far as I'm concerned, DB was a highly talented sportsman, VB was an average but well-marketed singer. End of interest.

My take is that he's a desperately troubled young man who has had his entire life played out in the media and on social media that he's never consented to. Children need far better laws protecting them from their parents monetising their childhoods. My grandchildren follow a family from the US on Youtube and too many moments of their days are recorded - their home, their bedrooms, their holidays, their hobbies. The only privacy they get is at school and only because their parents aren't allowed to film there. It's horrifying. And there are thousands and thousands of them doing it. I wonder how those children are going to feel in years to come...

Brooklyn was monetised from the day he was born, and now V & D are paying the price for it - I have little sympathy to be honest.

People have always sneered at him. I feel sorry for him really. I’ve said this on other threads but whatever the kid did in life he’d have been dismissed as another nepo baby. He has low intellect which I think is pretty obvious, inherited from his father.

I don’t think he has much talent and so has spent his short adult life thus far attempting to be something but every time he’s tried, the media has mercilessly mocked him. I think he’s a bit lost and directionless. If he hadn’t been born to famous parents I think he’d have become a tradie or something. Don’t think he could have done anything like this though, even if he’d wanted to because his parents thrust him into the limelight from birth.

I think he made a big mistake including the specific examples of the wedding dress and dance. That’s become the focus of the media commentary/briefings and is easy to build a ‘recollections may vary’ narrative around.

The rest of what he wrote is pretty damning - living with constant anxiety, a childhood characterised by ‘inauthentic’ family relationships and performative social media posts, where public promotions and endorsements are valued ‘above all else’, love is decided by how much you post on social media etc. Much harder to push back on that and I’m sure the Beckham’s PR team are very happy to encourage a million and one stories about dresses and dances as it obscures this.

I think they've all messed up in various ways. What I've seen on here is hundreds of people piling on David and Victoria with no recognition that Brooklyn's account might not be entirely fair. I find it telling that, as he scrabbled around to think of examples of his mother's hypocrisy, the absolute worst thing he could think of was that once she didn't contribute to a fund for rescuing dogs.

Sometimes I think normal people lack the most empathy. I think that's what happening here. Most people thankfully have good relationships with their parents and children, so they just cannot empathise with Brooklyn at all. Then there are the ones who see themselves as a victim of a child going NC, and they are obviously going to side with V/D.

I fell down a rabbit whole yesterday looking for explanations of narcissism, and found a thread on reddit where victims of narcissist parents were very pleased that he had spoken out and thought it was very brave of him.

On the other hand, I was also lurking on redcafe for a bit (Manchester United fan forum) and they thought he was an idiot and that his parents did only what everyone with business sense would do.

We always see what we want to see / what chimes with our own experience / what is important to us.