to think they are accountable for some of the damage?

[Lollybollylolly]

In a slight war on a rental property. Tiles in bathroom have serious lack of grouting, cracked, sealant on bathroom broken etc.
water has gone through to ceiling below of neighbour when there was issue last year. Water amount was relatively small.

Nothing done to fix tiles etx in my flat despite saying they would.

water again seeped down last night causing ceiling below to buckle in one area.

landlord trying to blame me 💯 percent. However they have done nothing to maintain the flooring in years. Who knows what damage has been done in the past and this was the final straw the other night?

help

Regardless of fault, damage needs to be repaired by the landlord and you need to insist on this. Even if you deliberately poured water to make it go through (obviously I don’t think you did), it’s still for the landlord to fix. Does he have an agent or do you deal direct?

I don’t know about all the legalities but surely it’s up to the landlord to fix as you are renting, you’ve told them before that the tiles are the issue and they’ve told you they’ll fix but haven’t. Now the issue has got worse somehow they are blaming you? I think YANBU

When you say “landlord pay for some of the damage” have you offered to pay some? Do you have to pay some? Or is this solely on landlord to fix

I deal direct with LL. They have not done any maintenance in 5 years, except if they absolutely have to.

The bathroom tiling has not been maintained at all. Nothing has been done in 5 years and as I can ascertain nothing has been done in 15 years but patch jobs. There is not proper waterproofing underneath.

They are holding me to blame saying it's careless spilt water , however the state of bathroom tiles and past damage could have led to the ceiling below finally backing.

bubba no mention of money yet. just blame with a bill to come from neighbour. So the battle begins

What were you doing that the water seeped down?

Mary my children having a bath water spilt over

Ex landlord here.
I had a tenant over flow a bath - filled it to overflow and then her and BF climbed in...
I ended up negotiating that I would keep £100 of deposit, half my insurance excess as it did some serious damage to downstairs ceiling. The tenant fought me all the way, but the deposit folk agreed with me.

I would contact the landlord with proof of your previous correspondence, I.e.

On Sept 3rd 2023 I emailed you about the poor state of the bathroom and that the lack of grout and cracked tiles etc could lead to water damage. On the 5th Sept 2023 you replied and said you’d send a maintenance person round to repair.

I chased this up on…. Etc.

It’s the landlord’s property to maintain, they should have been doing this properly and as a result of their lack of action there’s now a water problem.

Unless you’ve done anything above and beyond normal bathroom usage (& the landlord can prove that( it’s on them to repair and pay for.

I’m a landlord and I would expect to pay for this myself, but I also would have repaired the bathroom before this stage.

However they have done nothing to maintain the flooring in years. Who knows what damage has been done in the past and this was the final straw the other night?

From the landlord’s perspective, who knows how many times you have allowed your children’s baths to overflow without cleaning up the water straight away?

What do you expect them to do to maintain flooring? I have done nothing to ‘maintain flooring’ in my upstairs bathroom for 10+ years either. I still wouldn’t expect it to leak unless a huge amount of water was on it. How do you maintain flooring anyway? Isn’t it something that is just replaced when a new bathroom is needed?

there are cracked tiles, cracked sealant, uneven tiles and lack of grouting. shouldnt this be maintained?

The LL has said to neighbours multiple times she needs to fix the bathroom but nothing has been done. it should be in good condition

ps not overflowing the bath!
it took a a all amount of water from a washing machine to cause damage below.

so it doesn't take much is what I'm saying.

Have you reported the problems to the landlord? Do they do regular inspectionsm? You are expected to report KNOWN problems. LL is expected to inspect. Repairs are down to the LL. LL (or insurers) would be responsible for neighbours repairs if negligent.

yes LL well aware of problems. Sent someone round last year re tiles. Told the neighbour was going to fix. Did nothing. This is a pattern.