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Struggling to look MIL in the eye

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Bumblingbee92 · 16/01/2026 16:57

I used to think ‘not my business, staying well out of it’ but MIL is expecting us to take over therefore it is our/my business.

My DH has a brother with profound special needs and autism. He will always require 24/7 care and in some ways he’s mental capacity/needs are similar to a young toddler.

However, he’s 6ft tall, can be violent during his meltdowns and can be easily triggered/have to stick to his routines by to the minute.

Until DH met me he always thought he would take on Tom* but looking back, he was never really given the choice, but it was expected of him. DH had a different kind of childhood because of Tom (definitely the glass child/seen as another pair of hands to help with Tom) but he doesn’t hold it against his parents/he does genuinely love Tom.

When we met and got serious I asked DH how would it logistically work with caring for Tom and us having a family. It was the first time DH had ever really thought how it would work for him and his future family and decided that it wouldn’t be feasible/fair on our future kids/me at all. One of Tom’s triggers are children, if we were to hypothetically have Tom, it wouldn’t be in his best interests let alone our kids interest either.

DH sat his parents down and told them that he wouldn’t be prepared to be Tom’s full time carer. He would always ensure that Tom was well cared for but not in our home 24/7. All hell broke loose, PIL were disgusting to DH for months ‘for turning his back on his family’ etc and since it’s been the elephant in the room. If DH has tried to raise planning for Tom’s future he’ll get a comment like ‘we’ll just have to live forever’.

PIL are in their 70s and not in great health. I very much doubt both will still be here in 5 years especially as FIL health seems to be massively declining. MIL isn’t clueless, she’s on the board of a couple of panels/charities/runs special need support groups. She sees social services as evil and basically cuts off anyone who ‘sends their kid away’ - DH grew up surrounded by lots of other families in a similar boat, Tom is the only one to remain at home and MIL has fallen out with all of their parents.

MIL has made comments on how they’re going to leave everything to Tom (we’re fine with that) and that we’ll have to sort out getting 24/7 hour carers once they die. When DH has mentioned potentially getting Tom used to either staying away from home/having carers for longer than a couple of hours (they usually take him out) she deflects of ‘don’t you think we do a good job/don’t you think Tom deserves the best care from us’ and ‘I don’t want strangers in my house’.

I’m pretty low contact with MIL for various reasons but I can’t help but get more and more frustrated/annoyed/angry that her lack of planning is going to negatively impact my family. At the beginning she begged me to change DH mind/has said that she hopes that I’ll fall in love with Tom and refuse to send him away. I know that’s her plan, to do nothing and when it comes to her dying, in that moment we won’t make the emergency call to social to completely uproot BIL from everything he knows - poor man needs months to get used to the simplest routine change. Changing his complete world in an hour will be horrific for everyone involved. Our lives would be turned upside down if we did decided to take on Tom as we wouldn’t both be able to work/do ‘normal’ things as a family (no spontaneous plans, play dates, visit child centric places) and also, how would we guarantee/safeguard our kids from physical harm…

I said to DH that I’m tempted to put in a safeguarding concern to social to put this ridiculous car crash on their radar (I’ve got a feeling she’s telling everyone that we’re having Tom) but DH said that would be unforgivable. I feel like I’m becoming so frustrated/angry with MIL that I cannot be in the same room as her/don’t particularly want her around my kids when she’s happily setting them up to be abused.

OP posts:
Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 18/01/2026 12:36

I think you need to be a little emphatic to the in laws. They lived at a time where kids with SEN were institutionalised. They should be prised for caring for him for so long. They are probably very very scared of what happens when they die. For some people they will deal with that practically some people will be in flight mode and run away from it. Perhaps conversations of this nature is. Des. Perhaps visiting some homes similar to what he would end up in would help.

Theseventhmagpie · 18/01/2026 13:04

Octavia64 · 16/01/2026 17:04

When Tom’s last parent dies his world will change massively anyway.

SS won’t do anything in advance - he is cared for now and if PIL leave everything to him he will be self funding for care.

realistically what will happen is that one of them will die first. The other will likely become increasingly frail /have time in hospital at which point it will start becoming apparent to both of them how bad the situation is.

it is likely SS will get involved before the death of the second parent - imagine if the parent left has to go into hospital due to heart attack or fall or similar - SS will get involved.

it won’t be one single massive crisis it’ll be a succession of smaller ones - the plus side is that it’ll be easier for you to stay out of.

it is very frustrating having elderly parents/in laws who refuse to face reality thought.

Good post. This is how it’s likely to pan out. I don’t think there’s much more you can do OP. It’s desperately sad. I would also be distancing myself from mother in law.

Molly2023 · 18/01/2026 13:05

Not unreasonable at all. Imo it's actually in Tom's best interest, even now, to live in a supported facility rather than with elderly parents as more likely he'll learn new skills, have exposure to more people similar to himself and have more access to activities that his parents might not be able to provide etc. I think a lot of parents imagine horrible old school institutions but there any many lovely options nowadays. Awful situation for you to be in but don't back down or make false promises

OVienna · 18/01/2026 13:20

Lol, contacting your DH the day after your wedding and demanding he gives you an ultimatum, asking when you're rehoming your dog (even though they're also saying, out of the other side of their mouth, your kids will likely be grown up before you'd need to take care of Tom, that must be some incredible dog you have there.) Unbelievable.

I get this is difficult for them (we have a similar situation in my family, and many people have spoken on this thread about their own situations) but they don't own your lives, and it is very questionable whether they are even being realistic about what is in Tom's best interests.

It's unpleasant but I think how this is likely to play out is similar to what @2026January went through. Unless you think there is some risk DH will cave, I don't think anyone will 'make' you take DB on.

I also don't think there is any point putting it on social services radar at the present time. They likely won't see any safeguarding issues currently and certainly (and perhaps understandably) they will wait until they HAVE to act. If your PIL health deteriorates and care is becoming complex, that is another matter. Are there other people apart from you such a call could come from?

Pasta4Dinner · 18/01/2026 13:52

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 18/01/2026 12:36

I think you need to be a little emphatic to the in laws. They lived at a time where kids with SEN were institutionalised. They should be prised for caring for him for so long. They are probably very very scared of what happens when they die. For some people they will deal with that practically some people will be in flight mode and run away from it. Perhaps conversations of this nature is. Des. Perhaps visiting some homes similar to what he would end up in would help.

I don’t think they are old enough for this to be true. LA care in the 80s was much better than it is now. My mum ran a LA respite home for children with disabilities in the early 80s. Some lived there in the week and some the weekend. They weren’t institutionalised.
My MIL also tried this argument with her adult sister, even when multiple told her differently, even when she was moved into supported housing she would go on about her being moved to a ‘mental institution’. I don’t think this has been true since the 50s.

OVienna · 18/01/2026 13:56

Pasta4Dinner · 18/01/2026 13:52

I don’t think they are old enough for this to be true. LA care in the 80s was much better than it is now. My mum ran a LA respite home for children with disabilities in the early 80s. Some lived there in the week and some the weekend. They weren’t institutionalised.
My MIL also tried this argument with her adult sister, even when multiple told her differently, even when she was moved into supported housing she would go on about her being moved to a ‘mental institution’. I don’t think this has been true since the 50s.

I also thought this, the bit about the institutionalisation.

AnonymousBleep · 18/01/2026 14:16

As you say, OP, you can’t have him anyway as he can’t cope round children, and you have children, so that’s that. You can’t take him anyway - unless your husband moves out to live alone with him, which surely even your PIL must know isn’t going to happen. As you’re currently pregnant, this is the situation for at least the next 12 years or so, and your PIL will be long gone by then - or if not, needing care themselves. Your DH has effectively been groomed to look after him - ahead of his own needs - and that’s awful. Your PIL have been poor parents to him.

I don’t think there’s much you can do now though apart from detach yourself and stick to your guns.

MossAndLeaves · 18/01/2026 14:59

Would tom living with you in a "granny annex" type of extension with carers be a possibility? So hes got family support but you have your own space. If the inheritance is sizable then it could potentially pay for the building of it, whilst carers look after him at the parents house in the immediate aftermath of them passing?

SpringBulbsPop · 18/01/2026 15:01

Just leave it. You’ve said how you feel. You’re entitled to do so.
They’re entitled not to like it.
It will all be resolved when they die.
Their money will provide for Tom to have care.
There’s no problem here besides accepting your in laws are going to be annoyed. You can’t change this.

Cherrytree86 · 18/01/2026 15:23

Chasbots · 16/01/2026 21:07

I'd divorce my DH before I'd rehome my dog.

@Chasbots

eh?? What are you on about?

Chasbots · 18/01/2026 16:11

Cherrytree86 · 18/01/2026 15:23

@Chasbots

eh?? What are you on about?

The Op was asked when they are rehoming their dog...

cupfinalchaos · 18/01/2026 16:21

If I were your PiL I would hope that my son’s sibling would always look out for him and be invested in his life (hope not assume), but it is sadly unreasonable to ask your dh let alone you to take him in. Having said that, I can’t help but feel for them.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 18/01/2026 16:28

MossAndLeaves · 18/01/2026 14:59

Would tom living with you in a "granny annex" type of extension with carers be a possibility? So hes got family support but you have your own space. If the inheritance is sizable then it could potentially pay for the building of it, whilst carers look after him at the parents house in the immediate aftermath of them passing?

He can’t be round children, so no.

Cherrytree86 · 18/01/2026 16:54

Chasbots · 18/01/2026 16:11

The Op was asked when they are rehoming their dog...

@Chasbots

erm no she wasn’t…

Chasbots · 18/01/2026 16:58

Cherrytree86 · 18/01/2026 16:54

@Chasbots

erm no she wasn’t…

Pg3

This also happened around the time DH decided to move away from his hometown. His parents always made it clear that he had to stay in the nearby area/within the borough for funding purposes. They were also questioning a lot of our decisions as they wouldn’t be suitable for BIL (like when I’d be rehoming my dog).

GuppytheCat · 18/01/2026 17:12

Pasta4Dinner · 18/01/2026 13:52

I don’t think they are old enough for this to be true. LA care in the 80s was much better than it is now. My mum ran a LA respite home for children with disabilities in the early 80s. Some lived there in the week and some the weekend. They weren’t institutionalised.
My MIL also tried this argument with her adult sister, even when multiple told her differently, even when she was moved into supported housing she would go on about her being moved to a ‘mental institution’. I don’t think this has been true since the 50s.

When I was a teenager, our standard volunteering option for DofE or Scouts or Guides was to go and help out at one of the enormous local "mental hospitals", where there were plenty of residents who had been there lifelong. I'm well under 70 and can easily believe that the in-laws have some sort of folk memory of such places.

Wishmyhousewasbigger · 18/01/2026 17:34

I know a family with two off spring with special needs, the eldest is the most disabled, and is in a home. The second is living in supported accommodation, the parents took the decision to get this done, so that it wouldn’t be a horrible shock for the youngsters to suddenly find that their lives had changed in the case of sudden death.

quirkychick · 18/01/2026 19:26

croydon15 · 17/01/2026 21:30

This - your MIL is selfish, she needs to sort out a suitable structure for your BIL while she's alive, has some input as to where he will go and get him used to a new place; leaving it until they passed away will mean a rush decision and be very detrimental to your BIL.

Mencap are very helpful if you need advice and also to set up a trust fund.

Yes, Mencap are very helpful with trusts, Deputyships etc. They are definitely worth contacting to find out where you stand when the time comes.

herefortheclicks · 21/01/2026 20:47

quirkychick · 18/01/2026 19:26

Yes, Mencap are very helpful with trusts, Deputyships etc. They are definitely worth contacting to find out where you stand when the time comes.

The OP does not stand anywhere. She is not taking on Tom.

herefortheclicks · 21/01/2026 20:48

FlapperFlamingo · 17/01/2026 20:33

I am 100% with you OP. I have been on the sharp end of caring for someone and it’s very, very hard. Of course your DH wouldn’t have known what he was agreeing to when he was a kid/teenager. I think you have to prepare a bit by identifying some suitable places for his brother, working out rough costs etc but I wouldn’t go as far as SS. When you PIL do go it will be a shock for your BIL but I don’t think you can avoid that. The difficulty could come if one PIL dies, the other is left to care for BIL but cannot.

The OP does not have any such plans.

herefortheclicks · 21/01/2026 20:50

godmum56 · 17/01/2026 20:49

SS won't talk to the OP's partner about his brothers care because he is not the carer. They may be prepared to give general advice but they cannot act or do anything. First question they will ask is "do you have permission to get involved" and when the answer is no, that will end that conversation. He can "insist" all he likes but if his parents refuse, that also ends the conversation.
Do you get any support for you in caring for your ND child? because it sounds like you don't understand how Social Services work.

yes, and not only, posters give advice to the wife...the wife does not even want to get involved.

quirkychick · 21/01/2026 21:02

The op asked for advice saying:

I used to think ‘not my business, staying well out of it’ but MIL is expecting us to take over therefore it is our/my business.

So, with that in mind, pp are giving some knowledgeable advice if/when her dh's parents deteriorate and her dh is expected to step in.

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