Just been abused on the school run.. parking!

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My three children attend two separate schools on the same road. I always make sure I park somewhere that isn’t blocking someone’s drive etc. DH parked in the usual spot today and I waited in the car today (I have a disability and get flare ups in the colder weather). She pulled up to the window effing and blinding then she got out the car and started recording me swearing in front of all the school kids. DH returned back and she started to recording DH and the kids. It was her dad’s property and she had accused us of blocking him in. We left more than enough space for him to get out I even offered to move the car.

I have attached a pic (the silver car wasn’t in front so if her dad needed to get out he had more than enough space. We parked on the white mark and there are other parents parked behind us.

I am trying to move my kids to a nearer school so I can walk and finally put the parking drama to bed. However currently going through the appeals process as the local school has stated that they have no space.

Were we unreasonable? I’m at the stage where I don’t even want to take them to school now because of lack of parking and the dirty stares and arguments being caused by this. I can appreciate it’s frustrating living near a school!

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The point is that when a driveway is built, it often means that a new parking space is added to a private capacity - which sounds good, until you realise one space was taken from the public capacity (because the car can't stand over the dropped kerb area) to enable it.

So allowing a new driveway means that a private individual is getting a privileged use of that public space essentially for free (or a small admin fee). Is it fair? Is it reasonable?

I like the idea that you should be allowed to park over the dropped kerb when there is no car in the driveway (you have the same right to theat public space as they do), but not when there is a car in (because they were there first and are essentially occupying the dropped kerb space anyway, just slightly differently)

You cannot possibly be this stupid, so I am just going to assume you wrote this as rage bait.

I wouldn’t bother. The point will baffle.

No because if someone is out at work and they come home and want to park on their drive then they can’t because it will be blocked by someone else’s car. How do people know the driveway is not in use?? What are they supposed to do? Put a big sign outside their house? How will people know if someone’s drive is not in use when that person may have just popped out to the supermarket! Again, just doesn’t make sense!
It’s a non argument! Also has a pp has already stated? What about wheelchair users and the elderly who rely on dropped curbs? What are they supposed to do when a car is parked across one and they’re wanting to cross the road in their wheelchair? Should they try and climb down a high part of the curb and hope for the best?

Just out of interest, what’s even remotely “stupid” about that?

Jesus wept! 🤣

Evidently this is ridiculous, being that no one would park on their driveway anymore (since they would be highly likely to be blocked in) and would instead just park on the road, taking up more space than their dropped kerb probably would.

I knew the simple point would baffle the aggressive drive owners. And so it has.

Shame really. Proper use of the public space is an easy idea and an important one.

This is what I’ve spent the last 2 hours explaining to those two posters who think working on a dropped curb is a great idea…. But apparently we just don’t ‘get it’ 🤣

Stupid about what? Rage bait about what?

Can we agree that private drives are claiming a piece of public road for private convenience?

You just consider it a good thing, why I'm not sure it's entirely positive. I accept multi car car parks as probably being worth it, but 1 public space transformed to access to 1 private space feels wrong.

It’s baffling aggressive posters on here who think people should be allowed to park across people’s drive on the off chance it ‘might not be in use’. But there’s no way of knowing for sure 🤣 Just because someone has taken their car out for the day doesn’t mean the driveway is not in use or that you’ll know what time they’ll be back….but you carry on in your little bubble trying to argue your point 🤣

Parking spaces on roads are used by all. They’re not reserved. There will be a lot more parking and efficient use of parking space without, or with fewer, dropped kerbs. That’s one strong reason why councils at least used to be reluctant to allow new ones.

And so is someone who parks their car on a public road. It’s still taking up space. If people didn’t have drives then their cars would be permanently parked on the road…. Because they need to park somewhere. so your argument is a non argument

It seems that often the drooped kerb space is very similar to space one car takes, or that it fragments the available space in a way that it takes a full parking place away in the end anyway.

Let's say for a moment it really is the same. Do you see what issue is the driveway causing?

And if the car takes slightly more than the dropped kerb, what should be the socially acceptable ratio (when someone applies for a new drive way?)

No just means the same cars will be parked in the same spaces and if those cars move another car will take its place and clog the streets up. There isn’t enough space for all these cars as it is. Again makes no sense sorry 🤣

Do you seriously not understand how parking available to all on a public street works? That people come and go, that spaces come free? Except over drives, of course.

So let’s all get rid of driveways and clog the streets up full of cars so nobody has the space to drive up or down the same road…. Makes sense 🤣

Seriously. This must be the dumbest quote I’ve seen on MN today. Let me get this right - you’re saying that dropped kerbs should be banned, so that drivers can legally park across the bottom of someone’s driveway, and anyone wanting to park on their drives would have to wait for that random person to move their car? Utter, utter bonkers comment..

There is a difference between a space available for anyone first come first served, and space blocked for a single user.

Driveway entry is in the end very similar to reserving a space on the public road for the specific user - for free!

No, I think you actually don’t understand how parking works.

If you have fucking houses on a street the same cars will permanently be parked there! All you’re doing is proposing more cars park on the street! Which is a nightmare for drivers who are trying to battle their way through the street full of parked cars. Makes no difference if one car leaves and another one comes to take its place, you’re ultimately proposing people should just clog up the road with parked cars!

You obviously don’t 🤣

In a lot of cases, including my street, all the houses came with driveways when they were originally built. The developer who built all the houses on the street also built the street, so no one was taking a parking space away. A parking space was never there. I think this is true of quite a large proportion of houses that have been built in the last 50 years.

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