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To think social services/children’s services have very low standards

20 replies

WhereDoIGoFromHere2026 · 14/01/2026 15:32

Issues with how EXDP treats our shared children caused our relationship to breakdown as I didn’t want our children growing up thinking that how that are treated by their father is acceptable. The final trigger was when he hurt our youngest child causing swelling and bruising that lasted over a week.

social services investigated at the time. I opened up about historic incidents and provided evidence (photos of previous marks left on children and door bell footage). However my main concern is the emotional abuse (mocking, shaming the children). Plus other concerns re financial abuse and sexual abuse (exposing the children to inappropriate language, grabbing/molesting me infront of the children, pressing to have sex when the children are sleeping in the same room)

Nothing has been done as social services consider the children to be “not at risk of immediate significant harm”

EXDP is allowed unsupervised contact with the children. He’s told social services that the marks he’s left on the children were necessary to stop them hurting each other (not true) and that I would have allowed them to hurt each other. He’s said that my reaction to his parenting (sticking up for the children when he’s bullying them) is alienating him as a parent. Social services seem to believe him rather than me.

where do I go from here? I understand that there are children in much much worse circumstances, limited resources, etc. but surely we should have better standards for parenting than to allow “low level abuse, not ideal parenting, not what we would recommend” (social services words).

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Verytall · 14/01/2026 15:42

How much freedom people are allowed in terms of how they parent is set by the government and judicial system, the rights of parents to choose how they live their life and how they parent is pretty high. The things your ex did to you are abhorrent, though if you're no longer with him, then there's no risk of that happening around the children (if he did the same to a new partner that would be different).
As unpleasant as it is, social services can't intervene based on someone's character. It doesn't mean they don't believe you, but if he's a bit of a bully or a shit dad and he doesn't want to improve they can't force him. The consequence for your ex will be that at some point the children won't want to be around him.

ThisAzureDuck · 14/01/2026 15:45

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LittleLapwing · 14/01/2026 15:54

But what do they do? Genuinely?

There are far more substandard parents than there are social workers to deal with them, sadly.

anotheryeargoesby · 14/01/2026 16:00

Balancing the fact that children are best with their own parents and the fact that some parents are bad parents is an ongoing struggle.

mopu · 14/01/2026 16:03

i have a-lot of professional experience with social services and the threshold for SS intervention is incredibly high. Sometimes it seems they’ll only intervene if there’s a real risk of imminent death and that’s it.

mopu · 14/01/2026 16:04

have you had police involvement for the physical assault of your child?

Uhghg · 14/01/2026 16:05

How old are the DCs?
Is the contact court ordered?
Is he on the BC?

Any concerns keep reporting to SS.

1 report they might not take seriously but if he has a history of reports then they may take it more seriously.
Be careful you don’t report for minor things though - else you may look like you’re trying to find fault when there isn’t any.

Always screenshot messages and photograph/record any marks.

Ncjustforthisyhread · 14/01/2026 16:08

I recently reported a family for some serious neglect...
A very detailed email.
Ss gave them 2 weeks notice for their home visit.. In which time the house was not in it's usual state..
Won't give details here..
Ss sent the parents a copy of my email with my name at the bottom.
Nearly tore my life apart...
Won't be intervening again sadly.
I worry every day about those dc..

Verytall · 14/01/2026 16:11

mopu · 14/01/2026 16:03

i have a-lot of professional experience with social services and the threshold for SS intervention is incredibly high. Sometimes it seems they’ll only intervene if there’s a real risk of imminent death and that’s it.

Threshold for intervention against a parents wishes is very high.
There's a lot of parents who do accept support, whether under social work (child in need level) or early help. But if a parent doesn't care, the threshold to overrule that and insist they work with is high, because families have the right to live how they want unless it's possible to evidence that it's (currently, or likely to be) abusive.
It understand why that is the case though it can be very frustrating wanting to intervene and not being able to.

Squirrelchops1 · 14/01/2026 16:13

Stop contact if you consider the children are unsafe and let it play out in court

Endofyear · 14/01/2026 16:14

When your EXDP hurt your child causing swelling and bruising, did you report him to the police?

Puddingpiper · 14/01/2026 16:16

Report as assault to the police is contact court ordered? If not then you can refuse or reduce

beAsensible1 · 14/01/2026 16:16

It’s less low standards and more resource allocation and that it’s often considered best to keep families together.

for every person who thinks SS have low standards there is someone who thinks they nasty child thieves who want to ruin everyone’s life.

when resources are tight and foster carers non existent, the threshold has to be high. Their assessment will be that the risk to your DC was due to the relationship. Once that is gone they have deemed him low risk. Not that he is good or even adequate but they have their basic needs met and YOU are their protective factor. If you weren’t around it might be a different assessment.

keep collecting evidence and you can go for more limited contact or no over nights etc.

Supersimkin7 · 14/01/2026 16:17

The bar is very, very low - whatever else the law says, ‘barely adequate’ is the crucial benchmark.

Try again OP.

hellotojason · 14/01/2026 16:20

What is it you want social care to do? Not being facetious am genuinely curious? They could offer your ex support but if he doesn't consent then if it doesn't meet threshold of significant harm (as set out in legislation) they can't intervene and on the basis of what you have shared this wouldn't.
If you feel your children are at risk you can exercise your parental responsibility and stop contact and put it in front of a judge to determine what contact arrangements are appropriate - they not social care can make decisions about contact. Social workers can not legally stop contact between a child and their parent without their consent unless a Judge agrees it. If you have parental responsibility though you can choose to exercise it to safeguard your children.

Edit - to say if you feel he acts in a criminal way you can report to Police and they have legal capacity to put in restrictions around contact via bail condition.

FerriswheelsKissesandLilacs · 14/01/2026 16:22

I suppose the reason it's so low is because any potential abuse in the home has to be weighed up against the trauma of being withdrawn from the family and the further trauma that many children experience in care. It has to be pretty dire to be worse than that.

I agree that it makes less sense when there are two homes, but working out which parent is the "best" in family court would be opening up a can of worms.

downunder50 · 14/01/2026 17:51

What did he do to your child that caused bruising and swelling? Did you contact the police? This is so depressing OP, how can 'low level abuse of a child' just be allowed to continue with no intervention whatsoever. Even something like insisting he does a parenting course, his time with the children has to be supervised by a family member or no overnights would be something.

Verytall · 14/01/2026 21:31

If I'm reading it right, most of the concerns the OP had were historic, and that's why SS don't have evidence to say they are currently at risk of harm. The level of risk may also have changed with them being separated, ie if the main issues were between the parents. The threshold for insisting a parent has to be supervised with their old child is high, because otherwise it's a breach of human rights.
However if the OP feels that the children are unsafe she could exercise her PR and not let them go, and has the option of seeking orders through the family court.
Social services don't get involved in custody disputes generally, it's a private law matter.

bombastix · 14/01/2026 21:41

Tbh you are right that this a pathetically low standard. But the family court is worse in many instances. These systems aren’t really designed to protect children (sometime they do) but to manage adult behaviour. Adult behaviour that is pretty awful. And the emphasis is not on preventing harm but basically managing the aftermath

ColdWeatherWarning · 14/01/2026 23:05

Ncjustforthisyhread · 14/01/2026 16:08

I recently reported a family for some serious neglect...
A very detailed email.
Ss gave them 2 weeks notice for their home visit.. In which time the house was not in it's usual state..
Won't give details here..
Ss sent the parents a copy of my email with my name at the bottom.
Nearly tore my life apart...
Won't be intervening again sadly.
I worry every day about those dc..

That's horrific, completely unacceptable. Can you complain to SS or some other authority? Local MP maybe?

Thank you for trying to do something.

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