cause he is Jewish

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Apologies cant see a thread about this.
Staff at Bristol Brunel academy blocked a visit by Damien Egan, their local MP because he is Jewish. Clear case of antisemitism. AIBU to thinking that headteacher and those driving this decision should be sacked and reported to the Teacher Regulation Agency?
(Apologies thread title isnt correct, but i can't edit it)

I'm embarrassed for you for this post. Haven't bothered to read the thread and made quite a few erroneous assumptions.
Boring.

Jews aren't gullible. They are harangued, harassed and persecuted but they certainly know antisemitism when they see it. Fortunately 80% of decent people on this thread see it too.

It's actually גוייִש and I am happy to continue the conversation in Yiddish where I am far less likely to to make typos as it's my first language, if you like?

Except Friends of Israel literally aren't "Friends of Netanyahu". Why are you claiming they are?

He hasn't done what you claim. He isn't responsible for decisions made by the Israeli government. He has not "expressed support for genocide" (and it's questionable whether or not the retaliatory actions in Gaza against Hamas terrorism count as "genocide in any case, no matter how brutal. Military action tends to be)." Are ALL Muslims in the world to be held responsible for the decisions of Hamas to murder and torture Jews, by the way? Or for the many Islamisist terrorist acts against innocent people around the world in recent years? Should they be? Because following your logic, it would seem you do.

What result would you like "protesting" this individual Jewish MP's presence at a school to talk about his own job have exactly?

I do wish someone would answer this very basic question, which I've asked several times now. Do you not know?

An inconvenient question, AnneWhittle, and the answer is almost certainly no - not least because the antisemites would have been all over it if this was the case

So as I said we're into mental gymnastics, as in "I think he might suppport Netanyahu - so he must do - so he does"

Yes, agreed. Of all the comments on this thread, I find this the most troubling. The idea that an MP cannot visit a school because of the 'demographics' of the area.

This is pure sectarianism and will end badly for this country if we continue to pander to it.

its OK I can wait @NotThisAgain1987

I don't speak Yiddish so there wouldn't be much point. That's not the flex you think it is.

What are you waiting for?

I'm waiting to learn if I can switch to my preferred language of Yiddish

"LFI agrees with the UK government that the policies of the current Israeli government in the West Bank are utterly unacceptable. We totally oppose annexation of any part of the West Bank, and we abhor the violence perpetrated by extremist settlers and the manner in which this is encouraged and tolerated by far-right politicians in Israel."

"We welcome the government’s decision to impose sanctions on Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich. LFI has consistently supported action against violent extremists in the West Bank, as well as action to rein in illegal settlement outposts. We also opposed the presence of these far-right ministers in the current government, recognising that their agenda is antithetical to the values of equality and democracy set out in Israel’s Declaration of Independence."

"The humanitarian situation in Gaza is worsening and must be urgently addressed. As we have consistently argued, Israel must ensure that humanitarian aid can flow freely into Gaza. We abhor Hamas’ theft and profiteering and its cynical use of the people of Gaza as human shields, but restrictions on aid are utterly unacceptable."

"The Netanyahu government has been a disaster for Israel and its security, for the Palestinian people, and for the prospects of a wider regional peace. Netanyahu’s decision to stop aid flowing into Gaza at the bequest of his far-right coalition partners is unjustifiable and we have consistently opposed it."

"We share the Israeli people’s desire for new elections, a change of government, and an end to the Netanyahu era."

Various quotes from the Labour Friends of Israel website. So he wasn't banned for being pro-Israel's government. So why was he banned?

Excellent post, thank you.

You struck a chord with me when you mentioned this point earlier: why aren't all Muslims held to the same standards that Jews are - why are they never cancelled due to their -'links' with Hamas or just for sharing the same heritage? That's how ridiculous an assumption and stereotype this MP is the latest one to face. If not all Muslims are grouped with Hamas why are all Jewish linked with Israel's war conduct? I feel dirty just typing the very proposition with regards both groups, yet pro Pals seem to have no trouble holding all Israelis accountable. It's back to victim blaming.

I second that.

You must've missed my answer above. Tbh it's a bit Ashkenormative of you to assume I speak Yiddish.

Yiddish is your first language? Where do you live?

Excellent response to all those pretending it isn’t antisemitic/targeting a Jewish man.

Do you think anyone should be able to dictate which events at a school are allowed to take place, by making threats of what they will do if events they disagree with are held?

The conversation has not moved on.

It was my grandmother’s first language. In 1920. Maybe this poster is that generation? Or maybe originally from an ultra orthodox sect? This is the most interesting and unexpected twist on this thread. Hope they answer!

Then perhaps you should stay in you lane eh?

As for how do I know his attitudes? I don't know his personal ones but I know the inner workings of the two main Jewish groups in the Labour party Labour friends of Israel and Jewish voice for Labour, only the later insists you actually be Jewish to join. Just like any political parties there are overriding aligned you join LVI if you are a verdant Zionist and see no issues with Israel existing as it does and you join Jewish voice for labour if you are either more liberal Zionist or non Zionist. JVL leans more left wing. To continue the Tommy Robinson example I imagine not everyone goes on his marches agrees 100% with him but they are making a point by being there.

The fact that a PP questions that it's even a genocide when people far more qualified than any of us say it is speaks volumes about the attitudes held here. The Israeli military is capable of taking out leaders of hamas and doing targeted strikes with it's several special forces whereas it has instead chosen to level Gaza and work with developers that want to permanently displace Palestinians and build Jewish homes on the land.

As for what I want the protest/boycott to achieve rather nichely I'd quite like it to make members of LFI think about why they are considered toxic wherever they go when member of JVL and the smaller off shoots aren't. I would like him to consider why he an active MP in the UK is advocating for a country whos, regardless if mums net agrees or not, military leaders have commited genocide and have killed a young man and imprison many others for refusing to join the IDF. I can't possibly answer what the teachers want/wanted to achieve.

@NotThisAgain1987 I'm waiting for some evidence that this MP supports Israels prime minister. In English preferably.

I grew up hasdic in North London

@NotThisAgain1987 What lane might that be?

Genuinely super interesting. I was friends with some Lubavich families growing up in New York but they spoke English at home. Maybe they could speak Yiddish too but just didn’t with me? My grandmother would only speak in Yiddish when she was very, very angry.

And what on earth are you talking about? Jewish Voice for Labour doesn't insist you have to be Jewish to join and as you seem unaware that they've now changed their name to Jewish Voice for Liberation, I'd query your knowledge of their inner workings.