cause he is Jewish

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Apologies cant see a thread about this.
Staff at Bristol Brunel academy blocked a visit by Damien Egan, their local MP because he is Jewish. Clear case of antisemitism. AIBU to thinking that headteacher and those driving this decision should be sacked and reported to the Teacher Regulation Agency?
(Apologies thread title isnt correct, but i can't edit it)

@Chiaseedling If you've ever had the temerity to visit Israel, criticise extremism and antisemitism or be a member of any organisation that is friendly rather than hateful towards Israel then apparently yes it does.

Dont agree. Of course if it was someone not a jew who was pro Israel, it wouldn't have been an issue. Because we're all allowed to have our own opinions and an echo chamber cant exist where people with different political opinions aren't allowed. I'm sure if for example I, as a none Jew, but pro Israel, was invited to give a talk at a school on job opportunities (as an example) i would not be banned from attending. But because he is a Jew, it seems he can be.

Right, but what is the purpose of wearing them as a symbol to "protest" a British Jewish MP visiting a school and speaking about his job?

Can you explain what the "protest" of wearing keffiyehs is meant to achieve here? What message do you think those wearing them would like them to send to the MP in question or to those observing?

Isn't it intimidation and something like "you shouldn't be welcome in this school because Jewish and therefore, you're clearly a genocide supporter, personally responsible for Gaza and the policies of Netanyahu in some way. And no, we don't care if Hamas would throw you off the top of a building for being gay. We also don't care about October 7 because Jewish people deserved that" and "We are very righteous and ALL Jewish people as well as anyone who thinks Israel is allowed to exist are bad because they are the embodiment of Netanyahu and are all literally cheering on genocide?"

Is intimidation of random British Jewish people in the UK or anyone who believes Israel should be allowed to exist "because Gaza" or threatening anyone who believes that Israel should be allowed to exist morally righteous in some way? In what way exactly?

I think attempting to intimidate and threaten people because of their perceived ethnicity and democratic views does actively "hurt" people, yes. Bondi is a good example of how that's taken to its logical conclusion. All Jewish people everywhere are targets because "Jews are bad". And it's serious, as we know from history and recent events.

So those who do justify it perhaps need to take responsibility for their actions and intent here. Wearing a keffiyeh doesn't somehow designate you "a good person" who cares more about' human rights more than others. It does designate you as someone who is very keen to be seen that way. Doesn't mean it's either true or ethical.

He's only being held accountable for his own views and comments.

The UK government is wrong.

It is genocide.

..... But nobody else is. That is the point!

Can you show me his views and comments? Googling him now but if you know what the problem is that would help me feel better and less like everyone hates me

Could you please provide verifiable sources? Not from the Bristol Palestinian Solidarity Campaign or Electronic Intifada, some actual quotes from the man himself where he proclaims his support for genocide and cheers on Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir.

Disgusting.

At the moment all I can find is that he’s a member of Labour Friends of Israel who campaigns for a two state solution and democracy in both places? Seems… not horrifying.

What are those "views" and comments exactly. Can you articulate them please? As from what I've seen he's expressed publicly, they're pretty reasonable. What are you claiming he's said and what is wrong with what he's said that he personally needs to hold "accountability" for to the point he'll have a bunch of people trying to intimidate him and tell him he shouldn't be allowed to speak at a school about an unrelated matter.

Are any other people supposed to be held accountable for the views and actions of foreign governments, or is it only Jewish people? Is your support of the intimidation of people in the public sphere because they're Jewish and are married to an Israeli something you'd personally be happy to be "held accountable" for? Why not? It's racial hatred, isn't it? So does public intimidation of people for being Jewish not count as racial hatred, or should that be a free for all for some reason? What is that reason? Should you be held accountable for the fact you only apply this supposed righteousness when you're talking about Jewish people but wouldn't to anyone else, Muslims, say?

And is threatening someone when speaking to schoolchildren about their job because of your unevidenced perceptions of their "views" "accountability"? Or does it say more about you than them?

I think there's a lot of supposed "accountability" that is getting missed here. Like being accountable for being a racist anti-semite who targets and blames "Jews" when you wouldn't for anyone else.Including those who actively cheer on the murder, rape and torture of random Jewish citizens 'because apparently they deserve it."

You are wrong.

No, it isn't.

They're really invested in peace-building as well. From the LFI website:

In a major step forward for a longstanding LFI policy ask, the UK will host a key peacebuilding conference on 12 March next year to help establish an International Fund for Israeli-Palestinian Peace.
The conference at Lancaster House will bring together civil society leaders from across the region and delivers on the Prime Minister’s pledge, announced at the 2024 Annual Lunch, to host the event and set up a fund which will provide long-term finance required for peacebuilding efforts to deliver change in attitudes among Israelis and Palestinians on the ground.

Outrageous. I demand they too are held accountable for their views and comments.

Do you think that the headteacher should be putting the pupils at risk?

no. Which is why the actions of these teachers needs to be scrutinised. What are they teaching these children? Are there any Jewish children in this environment? Doesn’t sound safe. Should they ban Jewish children from attending? It sounds like this situation has gotten very unsafe indeed.

Not exactly a well-argued point there, sorry. Have you heard of the concept of evidence? Care to actually present any?

And what does it have to do with this particular Jewish MP's views and why you think it's therefore okay for him to be intimidated on a visit to a UK school. What 'values' do you imagine you're espousing here? That intimidation and threats on the basis of ethnicity and unevidenced 'views' is okay? Do you think you should be accountable for your claims or is it only Jewish people who need punishing?

You don't sound very righteous or ethical yourself, I must say.

How does being a British MP and vice chairman of an organisation that supports a two state solution, Palestinian autonomy and self-determination and lobbies for peace-building initiatives indicate anything of the sort?

I was really hoping we'd moved beyond that reductive "Jews are a monolith and if they support Israel in any way they can only be whatever one note, extremely prejudiced thing I say they are" routine but sadly it appears not.

No they can't but they are used to intimidate by hiding the faces of the cowards that wear them.

PS: for anyone considering responding to this with any of the following; Good Jew/Not All Jews/ Not Like Other Jews, please reconsider.

Still waiting for someone to point out the direct quotes of his views that you find so unacceptable...

Got one yet?

I mean, I'm sure St George flags can't literally hurt you either, but I wouldn't like to be a non-white person surrounded by angry blokes waving them at me.

They're a symbol. Symbols can be intended to be intimidatory. Look at the swastika. Again, I don't think we've had a coherent answer. What is a bunch of teachers wearing keffiyeh "in protest" when a Jewish MP comes to talk to kids in their school about his job intended to achieve exactly? Can anyone enlighten us? What would the ideal outcome of this be?

And is that intent any different to if they were a bunch of parents waving St George flags if Sadiq Khan (say) turned up to speak?

Extremely disturbing. What is happening to this country? Said as a woman of color

Don't want to be called out for antisemitism? Don't make antisemitic posts. Simple.

I'm not sure that it is.

It's certainly a massacre. But if you commit a large scale terrorist attack on a sovereign nation, a war is not just possible but, against a war-mongering loon like Netanyahu is a certainty.

Hamas knew exactly what they were doing.