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Hybrid Working Policy help needed

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jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 19:57

Hi - my job has a policy as above, states to be in the office for 3 days a week, with an option to submit a form for unforeseen circumstances. The policy states that the focus is on days not hours spent in the office per day but the expectation is that majority of the day is spent in office when there. There’s no definition of ‘majority’ so I’ve assumed it means more than 50%. This policy has been in place a year. Recently received an email from a senior member of staff to the whole team stating that when in the office we are expected to be there for a full day.

Since this policy was introduced - I arranged my childcare around it. My son is in nursery 7.30-5.30 daily (I’m a single parent) I chose these hours so I could get to the office early. Usually around 8.15/30, I stay until lunchtime which is four hours and then head home. I do this as I thought it was better to travel home on my unpaid hour than later in the afternoon on works time.

Since receiving the email I have reached out and explained my usual routine and asked for clarification if this is no longer ok. I have been told it is no longer ok and I cannot leave at lunchtime consistently only occasionally for appointments etc. Apparently this was clarified with HR before I was given a response. Where do I stand here as the policy doesn’t state full days? I have offered to stay till later in the afternoon and explained why I chose lunchtime. Also explained that I can’t stay till later than 4pm really due to traffic and nursery pick up.

I’m just not sure where I stand or how to handle? As the policy is not specific at all. Can the goalposts be changed like this?

IABU - Suck it up
IANBU - This isnt ok to just change it

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jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:27

TY78910 · 12/01/2026 20:14

I think it’ll be hard to argue based on your interpretation vs what the company is now asking you to do.

If I was you, I’d be putting in a flexible working agreement asking for specific start and end times, shorter break (by law they must give you a break if you work over 6h. It may mean you give them an extra day in the office as a trade off (shorten your days so that the total amount of hours in the office is equivalent to 3 full days) and then work longer hours at home to make up whatever your FT hours are. Unfortunately if you are contracted to do 38/40h, you can’t expect for the company to be ok with you taking shorter days on paper. Unless of course you drop your hours as part of that flexible working request, but you would also be taking a pay cut.

Yes I don’t think there’s much I can do about it really.

Luckily I do have some wiggle room - someone I spoke to said they would be happy to support a formal request if needed. I’d rather not go down that route if I can help it as I like the flexibility and I’d rather not make such a permanent rigid agreement.

I have offered to leave later in the afternoon suggested 3pm. I only chose lunch as I thought it would be less frowned upon to travel than in the afternoon and works time

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jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:29

HappiestSleeping · 12/01/2026 20:15

@jamcorrosion majority of a 7.5 hour day would surely be the upper quartile, so at least 5.5 to 6 hours. To say anything over half is disingenuous. Personally, I would view this as being 6.5 hours of a 7.5 hour day.

Regardless, your contract trumps everything else. Doesn't really matter what any ad hoc policy says.

Contract doesn’t really say from what I remember it has contracted hours etc but has (I think) something around business needs and being ever changing

I’m happy to stay later in the afternoon to meet the extra, I only chose lunch so I wasn’t travelling in works time but at least it gives me some wiggle room

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jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:30

Barrellturn · 12/01/2026 20:17

Are you logging off on pick up or do you log back in when your dc is in bed to make up the hours?

I don’t pick him up at lunch. I go straight home log back on till end of day then do pickup. There’s no hours to make up as I travel on my lunch

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Allthecoloursoftherainbow4 · 12/01/2026 20:31

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:02

Yes but the policy doesn’t state that - it specifically states the focus is on days not hours but expects the majority of the days. If the policy said three full days then fair enough but it doesn’t.

Plus I’ve been doing this for a year with no issues.

I bet the reason they have focused on days not hours was because if they said 21hrs there'd have been cheeky sods trying to only come in for 2 long 9-10hr days then 3 days at home. Because there is always someone trying to push their luck.

Wfh is a privilege - we are SO lucky these last few years that we have been able to do it, but i can already see that eventually it won't be allowed anymore and its because every office has the people like you, who having been given an inch... Take a mile, and spoil it for everyone.

You also need to choose a nursery closer than 1hr away from work if getting to nursery pick up is such an issue

Lewiscapaldiscat · 12/01/2026 20:31

I’m confused - Why would travelling in work time be an option? You aren’t doing them a favour?

This is a bit muck taking and why WFH ends up being scrapped - it clearly was an issue over the last year hence the change.

you start at 8:15 so can’t you take half hour lunch finish at 4:15 and pick up by 5:30?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 12/01/2026 20:32

TY78910 · 12/01/2026 20:23

Also, I’m making a huge assumption here on what OP does for a living, but most places (whether you’re dealing with clients, or internal teams) will view the most unproductive hours to be in the morning. So you’re leaving work just as things start ramping up. And what I mean by unproductive is the most meetings / tasks landing will be between 10 and 4:30. OP is leaving 3h in to a productive part of the day…

This is why people who want to start their day very early - the 7 am type people - drive me slightly mad - because they want to work quiet hours when nothing is happening very early in the morning, and then cop off at 3, which is still well within the time when important meetings will be happening.

KellsBells7 · 12/01/2026 20:32

If your son is in nursery until 5.30, why don’t you just work until 4? It’s taking you 45 mins to and hour to get in and then that leaves you 1.5 hours to get home.

TY78910 · 12/01/2026 20:32

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:27

Yes I don’t think there’s much I can do about it really.

Luckily I do have some wiggle room - someone I spoke to said they would be happy to support a formal request if needed. I’d rather not go down that route if I can help it as I like the flexibility and I’d rather not make such a permanent rigid agreement.

I have offered to leave later in the afternoon suggested 3pm. I only chose lunch as I thought it would be less frowned upon to travel than in the afternoon and works time

Sometimes permanent is best though, because it can’t be taken away. So once you have a flexible working agreement in place, this situation won’t happen again where you’re having to rethink your entire routine.

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:33

RudolphRNR · 12/01/2026 20:19

Ok so you are 15 minutes over exactly half a day?
I think you are taking the P if you push that as your reasoning and I expect your employer does too, hence them questioning it.
There are other options available to balance childcare. Plenty of your colleagues will have the same issue so find a way to comply with company policy that works for you.

I’ve been doing this for a year with no issues - I wasn’t questioned it’s only come about as I reached out for clarification.

None of my colleagues on my team have my situation only one other with a young child but not a single parent like I am.

I have offered to stay later in the afternoon, I chose lunch so I wasn’t travelling in works time but I can stay longer.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 12/01/2026 20:34

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:30

I don’t pick him up at lunch. I go straight home log back on till end of day then do pickup. There’s no hours to make up as I travel on my lunch

When do you eat?

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 12/01/2026 20:34

Are you in a union? If so speak with them. Is this policy tgat states 'majority' specified in your statement of particulsrs/contract.

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:35

momager22 · 12/01/2026 20:19

Yeah I think you’re taking the piss a bit here by going at lunch time. I would not think just over half applies to ‘The majority of a working day’ in this instance.
just stay till 4-4.30pm or put in an official flex request

That’s the issue isn’t it - it’s ambiguous so I’ve interpreted it to mean something different than others and than by management. None of us are wrong as it’s not specified.

I only chose lunch so I wasn’t travelling on works time but have offered to stay later

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jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:36

Barrellturn · 12/01/2026 20:17

Are you logging off on pick up or do you log back in when your dc is in bed to make up the hours?

There’s no hours to make up I travel at lunch

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user1476613140 · 12/01/2026 20:36

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 12/01/2026 20:32

This is why people who want to start their day very early - the 7 am type people - drive me slightly mad - because they want to work quiet hours when nothing is happening very early in the morning, and then cop off at 3, which is still well within the time when important meetings will be happening.

I think you'll find in places like the NHS 7am is an incredibly busy part of the day for many staff. Right through the morning where things can quieten down by the afternoon....it's not one size fits all🤷‍♀️

ReadingSoManyThreads · 12/01/2026 20:37

I think you were a tad cheeky to think "majority" meant you could get away with working a half day in the office. That said, if you are contracted for a 7.5hr day, then working 8.30am - 4pm covers you, if you then have your 'lunch break' at 4pm (then use it to travel home).

I don't think you should argue to continue to work half-days, that's just unreasonable, even if you are working the afternoon at home. You are contracted for 3 office days, not 3 half days (technically 1.5 office days then).

I personally think you're being unreasonable and cheeky over this, and should work your full office day, as you said, as long as you leave by 4pm, it works for you anyway.

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:37

Allthecoloursoftherainbow4 · 12/01/2026 20:20

Come on OP I think you know that's probably not what they meant by that. You've deliberately been quite literal when I think you probably know they mean most of the day eg if someone is leaving 20min early on an office day to make the childcare pick up they'll turn a blind eye.... Not half days. It's a day in the office? Not a half day.

I haven’t done it deliberately that’s how I interpreted it and I’ve been doing it for a year with no issues.

the policy specifically states the focus isn’t on how many hours in the office but days

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jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:38

JuliesName · 12/01/2026 20:21

This is why taking advantage isn't a good idea.

If you had been working in the office until 3, then left I doubt anyone would care or argue that wasn't a majority of your day. Working half days every single time youre in the office is a piss take and has resulted in the 'full day' policy. The only person to blame here is yourself.

I wasn’t taking advantage at all - and I’m not the reason this was put in place. I haven’t been pulled up or questioned about it. It’s only come up as I reached out for clarification

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Allthecoloursoftherainbow4 · 12/01/2026 20:38

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:27

Yes I don’t think there’s much I can do about it really.

Luckily I do have some wiggle room - someone I spoke to said they would be happy to support a formal request if needed. I’d rather not go down that route if I can help it as I like the flexibility and I’d rather not make such a permanent rigid agreement.

I have offered to leave later in the afternoon suggested 3pm. I only chose lunch as I thought it would be less frowned upon to travel than in the afternoon and works time

You need to wait to travel til 4pm really. Even 3pm is taking the piss a bit it's halfway through the afternoon and as a PP has noted you'd presumably go straight to pick up your DC at 4pm and then get little more work done that day as caring for a preschooler. If it's 45-60 min to get to nursery you need to be staying at work til 4, that leaves a decent margin of time for traffic.
Why have you asked to leave at 3 when you could stay til 4?

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:39

pernice · 12/01/2026 20:21

I think staying until 3pm is a good compromise?

Yes that’s what I’ve offered

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Lucyccfc68 · 12/01/2026 20:39

Majority of the day to me would mean being in for around 6-7 hours, not going home at lunch time.

HobnobsChoice · 12/01/2026 20:39

Allthecoloursoftherainbow4 · 12/01/2026 20:31

I bet the reason they have focused on days not hours was because if they said 21hrs there'd have been cheeky sods trying to only come in for 2 long 9-10hr days then 3 days at home. Because there is always someone trying to push their luck.

Wfh is a privilege - we are SO lucky these last few years that we have been able to do it, but i can already see that eventually it won't be allowed anymore and its because every office has the people like you, who having been given an inch... Take a mile, and spoil it for everyone.

You also need to choose a nursery closer than 1hr away from work if getting to nursery pick up is such an issue

This is exactly what happened at my work place. We used to do two days a week but some people would work 12 hour days there and then say "well I did 12 hours on Tuesday so I'm not coming in on Thursday". nope they need to be in on Thursday as there are office based things that need to happen and they should be doing them. Our minimum hours in the office is 6.

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:39

user1476613140 · 12/01/2026 20:23

I get what you mean there OP but I don't think 50% is calculated in hours, it's calculated by days? Unless I am missing something?

It’s because the policy specifically states the focus isn’t on hours per day spent but on the number of times attended

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jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:40

TY78910 · 12/01/2026 20:23

Also, I’m making a huge assumption here on what OP does for a living, but most places (whether you’re dealing with clients, or internal teams) will view the most unproductive hours to be in the morning. So you’re leaving work just as things start ramping up. And what I mean by unproductive is the most meetings / tasks landing will be between 10 and 4:30. OP is leaving 3h in to a productive part of the day…

I’m not leaving and not continuing working through - I still work the rest of the day at home

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TheRealLillyAllenVerifiedAccount · 12/01/2026 20:40

Civil service? My dept has clarified that a day means "majority of the day" eg 51% minimum.

It can be difficult if everyone works flexi though because if everyone is working say 4hrs in the office then depending on start and finish times, there is no guarantee everyone will be in the office together.

Allthecoloursoftherainbow4 · 12/01/2026 20:40

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:38

I wasn’t taking advantage at all - and I’m not the reason this was put in place. I haven’t been pulled up or questioned about it. It’s only come up as I reached out for clarification

Kindly OP - you absolutely were.
You might have thought it was OK for a year but I suspect there's been a lot of mutterings about it after you saunter out at lunchtime and that's why they've now been forced to confirm that by majority they don't literally mean anything over 50%. I mean come on most people would recognise they mean most of the day and in working terms that would be 6+ hours at least