Annual leave incorrect or are my calculations wrong?

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Can anyone that works in HR or does this for a living please let me know if I'm incorrect before I bring it up with my manager - again!

Happy to be told I'm wrong and I'm not calculating it right....

I work 30 hours per week over four days, working 7.5 hours per day. My non-working day is Wednesday.

Full-time staff receive 27 days’ annual leave plus all bank holidays. My entitlement is 21 days’ annual leave, with bank holidays calculated on a pro-rata basis.

My leave system currently shows an entitlement of 32 days, which equates to 210 hours per year (210 ÷ 7.5 = 28 days), plus 4 days carried over.
However, based on my calculations, I should also receive the 8 bank holidays. This would be 21 days’ annual leave plus 8 bank holidays, plus the 4 days carried over, giving a total of 33 days. All bank holidays fall on my normal working days.

Could you please confirm whether my correct entitlement should be 32 or 33 days?

Thank you.

You get the bank holidays pro rata too - so 8 x 30/37.5

You don't get all of the bank holidays just because you happen to work Mondays - they're still pro-rated

You won’t get all the bank holidays otherwise people who never worked Mondays would get none. You’ll get a proportion of the bank holidays based on the proportion of a full time role you work

You can also find you have to use some of your annual leave to cover part of the bank holidays if you can’t work those days because your place is shut

Your annual leave should actually be 21.6 days, and your bank holidays 6.4 days. So your total leave should be 28 days.

28 days plus the 4 carried over

If you work 4 days out of 5, with a full time staff member working 37.5 hours per week, I would simply calculate a full years allowance pro-rata allowance via 80%

27 x 80% = 21.6 days.
8 x 80% = 6.4 bank hols
Total =28 days.

If you're in England there are only 8 BHs for FT workers, you won't be entitled to all of them.

In another year your prorata BH might equate to more than the BHs on your working days, but you'll still be entitled to all the prorata calculaton.

To work it out, we need to know what a full time week is

Your bank holiday entitlement would also be pro rated so effectively 80% of the 8 bank holidays which would be 6.4 days. You are also entitled to 80% of the 27 days which is 21.6 a total of 28 days annual and bank holidays . What you have been given is correct.

Your bank holiday entitlement will be pro rata won't it?

Thanks everyone.

This I understand perfectly! Thanks

27 x 80% = 21.6 days.
8 x 80% = 6.4 bank hols
Total =28 days.

You get 4/5 bank holidays.

But also each banknholoday is on a working day for you so some of your normal leave will be reduced.

Because you are getting more than the 4/5 bank holidays.

This is the first I’ve heard of bank holidays being pro-rated (always worked full time) - what a scandal! Hopefully you can WFH for the portion of a bank holiday you’re expected to ‘work’.

No you need to use annual leave to cover them, but it's no scandal and it works both ways, some years you get more proata BHs than fall on your working days.

That's why it's best to have Mondays off if you're part time in a job that doesn't work BHs - you get an allowance of leave days for bank holidays but you don't need to use them on actual bank holidays and can take them when you want instead!

It depends what your contract says about how the bank holidays are calculated (pro rata or not). Where I work the bank holidays are not calculated on a pro rata basis regardless of how many days a week we work (2, 3, 4 or 5 days a week). All employees in my place of work are entitled to all bank holidays off/in lieu. If a bank holiday falls on my non working day I get the day back in lieu to take at any point during the year as per my contract.

Its not really a scandal. Working full time, a bank holiday is 1/5 of your working week. If you only work 3 days a week, its a 1/3 of your working week. So doing it pro rata is much fairer for everyone. You still get the same proportion of the week off that everyone else does. Its standard in every company I've ever worked in.

Of course BH's are pro-rata'd!

What always confuses matters is talking about leave in days imo. People who work PT or compressed then just get extremely confused.

If it's all laid out in hours it's usually much clearer.