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DC grandad - opinions please

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panday · 02/01/2026 23:09

This is long, I apologise. I am still in shock to be honest.

I have 2 children to my ex partner. We have been separated 10 years. He lives over 2 hours away from us in the same area as their grandparents. DS is 16 diagnosed with autism when he was 5. DD is 14.

Dc have been going to their dads every other weekend since we separated. They see their grandparents during this time and their grandparents sometimes do drop offs/collections. We meet half way at a service station. DC soenf the majority of their time at their grandparents house. Their dad is and always has been crap. He has his own place and the kids stay there but they never seek to stay long. He has a partner who I suspect is the issue but no proof.

As mentioned, Ds is autistic and went to a specialist secondary school, no GCSEs and is now in college learning life skills. He has a PA who takes him out every week. He is extremely vulnerable with no friends. He has been suicidal multiple times - once very recently and he sees cahms for support. Despite this, he is a very well mannered and polite young man. He’s amazing. I’m biased but he is.

Co-parenting with my ex has never been easy. He has zero involvement with ds being autistic. Ds has always masked around him and his family. They don’t see ds as I do.

Myself and Ds have an extremely close relationship and he has longed for the same with his father who shows little interest. 1 phone call every 12 days between visits is usually all he gets.

My relationship with their grandparents has been mixed. I’m thankful for their help but I’ve never trusted them around dc, especially ds. There have been a few incidents where their grandad has pushed ds into doing things he wasn't ready for (things like going to the shop alone, forcing ds to ride a bike and calling him a wimp for saying it frightened him). I ended up calling their grandparents to share that ds was not doing well mentally. This backfired on me massively and their grandad blamed me for everything - all ds troubles were my fault. Autism - my fault. I’m making it up, they refused to believe anything I said despite offering to show mountains of medical reports to back it up. He also said Ds would be better living with them. He would be out riding his bikes with mates. Ds is scared of me. This was 18 months ago.

Fast forward to 2 days ago. Met both grand parents at the service station to collect dc. I don’t speak to the grandad anymore, after the phone call. Always just sit in the car and let the kids get in.

Anyway I’m sat in the car and all of a sudden see their grandad approaching the car with Ds beside him. He opens my car door himself and demands to know why my son’s name has been changed on Facebook. (It’s been like this for months - for his own security and safety). I tell this to him. He then calls me a liar and says I’m using my son to scam people for money. I was quite taken back by this. I told him not to get involved, he doesn’t know my son properly and to leave it there. He demanded I change it back. I told him he has no rights as a grand parent to ask anything of me.

His words to me were then ‘you little slut.’

DS was stood quite near. I screamed and told him he would never ever see my children again. He walked off. I was absolutely gobsmacked/petrified.

Dc got in the car and I was shaking and crying. Poor Ds was then crying, angry, screaming. I called their father who didn’t know what to do and he ended up hanging up the phone. I waited for 45 minutes until I could calm Ds down and felt it was safe to drive home.

Both my dc have decided they no longer want to see their grandad. They didn’t like him anyway really but this was the final straw for them. Their grandad had sent Ds a text asking him to call. I said no but DS wanted too. He stood up for me and told him he would never see his grandad again. Their grandads response was that he loved them both but he will never take back what he said about me and it is their choice to walk away from him. No apology. Nothing. He is now blocked on both their phones.

I don’t think I have ever been so angry in my life. I called my ex today to ask them if he had spoken to his parents. He said he had. He didn’t directly blame me but it sounded like the grandparents blamed me for my response to being called a little slut. They said DC weren’t stood close enough to the car to hear it - basically they didn’t have to know anything. Although DS did hear it. My screaming basically was the issue.

He also said that the next time the kids visit him, they can decide whether they see their grandad or not. This angered me - they don’t want too and shouldn’t be asked. They’ve told their dad and their grandad that they are done.

My ex ended up hanging up the phone and told me he was sick of hearing it - baring in mind this happened only 2 days ago.

Today I sent their Nana I message to say the dc do not want a relationship with their grandad. I explained the reasons why. I also explained the reasons why ds name is changed on Facebook and that ds understands and is happy with this - I am not using my son to scam people 🙄 I said she is more than welcome to have a relationship with them but this must be alone and their grandad is not to be involved. I said he is abusive towards women and I don’t want my daughter around him.

She didn’t reply and I didn’t expect her too.

I have 2 questions:

  1. would you have reacted the same in that situation? As I feel I am being blamed for my reaction.
  2. Would you stop your children from seeing this man? Even though they are older and can make their own decisions? I am concerned that my ex and their nana will try to convince dc to see him again. If that happens, I want to stop the kids visiting them entirely. Not stop contact, just they will have to visit them here instead. My children will no longer travel to them .
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ohfourfoxache · 02/01/2026 23:14

Keep both your kids away from these people. Don’t offer anything, don’t ask for anything, don’t try to facilitate a relationship

Ticktockwatchclock · 02/01/2026 23:24

ohfourfoxache · 02/01/2026 23:14

Keep both your kids away from these people. Don’t offer anything, don’t ask for anything, don’t try to facilitate a relationship

⬆️Agree

Chica1990 · 02/01/2026 23:28

In answer to the first question, of course they want to blame you! People who act like this are not the type to take accountability or accept their own wrong doing, it's much easier to point the finger at the ex member of the family unfortunately. The grandad even said he doesn't take back what he said, which even if you had wanted to scam people, has nothing to do with being a slut. And even if the kids didn't hear, why would that then make it ok? It was uncalled for. If you said something to him he would not think twice about making a huge thing of it.

Regarding the second question, it sounds like the kids don't want to see him anyway. I would lay out in a text the boundaries of not seeing the miserable worm, not to be asked and the consequences of doing so.

panday · 02/01/2026 23:29

They still want to see their dad. I don’t feel I can stop that, that’s a big thing. I don’t encourage it, never have.

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Endofyear · 02/01/2026 23:30

I would tell ex that if he wants to see the children, he can travel to you to ensure that their grandfather does not have access to them.

I don't think it's your fault at all as you didn't cause the upset but I think in that situation I probably wouldn't have responded to his insults, I would have got the children in the car and driven off immediately. Seeing you screaming, shaking and crying must have been frightening for the children. Was he up in your face shouting or speaking to you through the car window?

panday · 02/01/2026 23:33

Chica1990 · 02/01/2026 23:28

In answer to the first question, of course they want to blame you! People who act like this are not the type to take accountability or accept their own wrong doing, it's much easier to point the finger at the ex member of the family unfortunately. The grandad even said he doesn't take back what he said, which even if you had wanted to scam people, has nothing to do with being a slut. And even if the kids didn't hear, why would that then make it ok? It was uncalled for. If you said something to him he would not think twice about making a huge thing of it.

Regarding the second question, it sounds like the kids don't want to see him anyway. I would lay out in a text the boundaries of not seeing the miserable worm, not to be asked and the consequences of doing so.

Absolutely none of what he said made sense at all. He is absolutely deluded.

my daughter lost respect for him a couple of years ago when he told her that ‘women belong in the kitchen’.

I sent a very clear text, just feeling uneasy going forwards.

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panday · 02/01/2026 23:36

Endofyear · 02/01/2026 23:30

I would tell ex that if he wants to see the children, he can travel to you to ensure that their grandfather does not have access to them.

I don't think it's your fault at all as you didn't cause the upset but I think in that situation I probably wouldn't have responded to his insults, I would have got the children in the car and driven off immediately. Seeing you screaming, shaking and crying must have been frightening for the children. Was he up in your face shouting or speaking to you through the car window?

He opened my car door without consent and was leaning into my car. I haven’t spoken to him for 18 months, although seen him plenty of times since - just not spoken. I had absolutely no idea what he was going to do.

I have apologised to the kids since for my reaction.

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JLou08 · 02/01/2026 23:38

I don't think I would have reacted the way you did. It wasn't a sensible and dignified way for anyone to react and it would have been your reaction that led to DS's meltdown. However, that doesn't absolve the grandad of responsibility, he sounds like an awful person and I wouldn't want him in the life of my DC. They've said they don't want to see him so there is no need for you to do anything to facilitate a relationship.

panday · 02/01/2026 23:44

JLou08 · 02/01/2026 23:38

I don't think I would have reacted the way you did. It wasn't a sensible and dignified way for anyone to react and it would have been your reaction that led to DS's meltdown. However, that doesn't absolve the grandad of responsibility, he sounds like an awful person and I wouldn't want him in the life of my DC. They've said they don't want to see him so there is no need for you to do anything to facilitate a relationship.

If I could take my reaction back I would.

However that didn’t cause Ds upset - as I said, he heard what his grandad said. He reacted to that. My reaction certainly didn’t help though. Dd got straight in the car and hugged me.

I have apologised to them and I can see I shouldn’t have reacted like that. I was just in shock from being accused of using my son to scam people to then being called a little slut in the space of a minute. I shouldn’t have reacted like I did though.

i just didnt and still dont get it. I’ve always been polite, thankful to them. Would send them Christmas cards since separting from their dad. Why their dad hates me I have no idea, and it is hurtful as I have raised dc alone with no support from any of them.

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saraclara · 02/01/2026 23:48

What does he mean by you using your DS to scam people? What's behind that?

JLou08 · 02/01/2026 23:49

panday · 02/01/2026 23:44

If I could take my reaction back I would.

However that didn’t cause Ds upset - as I said, he heard what his grandad said. He reacted to that. My reaction certainly didn’t help though. Dd got straight in the car and hugged me.

I have apologised to them and I can see I shouldn’t have reacted like that. I was just in shock from being accused of using my son to scam people to then being called a little slut in the space of a minute. I shouldn’t have reacted like I did though.

i just didnt and still dont get it. I’ve always been polite, thankful to them. Would send them Christmas cards since separting from their dad. Why their dad hates me I have no idea, and it is hurtful as I have raised dc alone with no support from any of them.

Edited

Given his comment about women belonging in the kitchen and the use of the word slut, it's probably nothing you have done, he just hates women in general. Men like that usually have the family under their control, I don't think you could trust your DCs dad or Nanna to not go along with whatever he wants.

Ukefluke · 02/01/2026 23:51

They are arseholes but your response of screaming and shaking is well OTT .

mommatoone · 02/01/2026 23:53

OP - put your kids first, always sod the bloody grandad. You can make alternative arrangements for them to see dad if that's still the case. You are not in the wrong here. You sound like a great mum and grandad is probably a dick towards you cos you can (will) stand up for yourself and he can't control your kids . Good luck

birdling · 02/01/2026 23:54

I don't understand how changing someone's name on Facebook is going to scam anybody.
Either way, keep your kids away from them all.

panday · 02/01/2026 23:55

saraclara · 02/01/2026 23:48

What does he mean by you using your DS to scam people? What's behind that?

No idea. Potentially my ex. My ex cheated on me all through our 7 year relationship During pregnancy, the lot. He also was registered on sex websites. When I finally had the courage to kick him out, none if his family believed what he had done and still don’t. I’m sure my ex has always said I’m the villain.

The grandad has always had a very warped view on things. Racist, homophonic - the lot. Also has dogs and goes hunting. Puts pictures of all the dead animals the dogs caught on Facebook. I’ve had to say in the past that the dc must not be around when he does that.

I think he is autistic himself but stuck in an era that doesn’t exist anymore. He’s horrible to everyone. My ex doesn’t see him often and only lives 10 mins away from him. He has never once been to my exs house, refuses to go.

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panday · 03/01/2026 00:00

JLou08 · 02/01/2026 23:49

Given his comment about women belonging in the kitchen and the use of the word slut, it's probably nothing you have done, he just hates women in general. Men like that usually have the family under their control, I don't think you could trust your DCs dad or Nanna to not go along with whatever he wants.

He is extremely controlling. He is a bully. His family are all scared of him and make excuses. I think that’s also partly why I snapped. No one has ever stood up to him before.

My son did a better job than I did at putting him in his place. I was super proud if him.

But my concern is that they might try and get my dc to see him - they probably will. And that’s when I’ll have to stop visits entirely and the can travel.

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panday · 03/01/2026 00:01

Ukefluke · 02/01/2026 23:51

They are arseholes but your response of screaming and shaking is well OTT .

I hate confrontation. Not used to it. Though now I agree that I shouldn’t have.

But as I said, it was not expected, he was extremely intimidating. He had no right to even open my car door.

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Endofyear · 03/01/2026 07:34

panday · 02/01/2026 23:36

He opened my car door without consent and was leaning into my car. I haven’t spoken to him for 18 months, although seen him plenty of times since - just not spoken. I had absolutely no idea what he was going to do.

I have apologised to the kids since for my reaction.

I totally understand that you're reaction was one of fear - none of us know how we're going to react in moments when we feel threatened do we? I wasn't judging you and I'm sure your children don't blame you. From your updates, I would definitely stand strong on keeping him away from the children in future. Look after yourself lovely 💐

mrssunshinexxx · 03/01/2026 07:37

Toxic toxic toxic situation.
ignore any contact and let the dad take you to court for access ( he won’t ) problem solved

panday · 03/01/2026 07:44

Endofyear · 03/01/2026 07:34

I totally understand that you're reaction was one of fear - none of us know how we're going to react in moments when we feel threatened do we? I wasn't judging you and I'm sure your children don't blame you. From your updates, I would definitely stand strong on keeping him away from the children in future. Look after yourself lovely 💐

Thank you so much.

No my children don’t blame me, my daughter hugged me (she is not a hugger!) and told me she was proud of me for standing up to him.

I spent the entire journey home saying how sorry I was

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panday · 03/01/2026 07:47

mrssunshinexxx · 03/01/2026 07:37

Toxic toxic toxic situation.
ignore any contact and let the dad take you to court for access ( he won’t ) problem solved

He wouldn’t take me to court - absolutely no way.

But it’s a tough one as my children don’t want to stop seeing him. They absolutely know he would never win dad of the year, they can see that themselves but they don’t want to not see him.

Although I do feel Ds might not want to see him for much longer, depends on how much their dad actually steps up and is there for them.

There dad is also stuck now as he can’t palm them off with their grandparents anymore so contact may just stop anywau.

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crowsfeet57 · 03/01/2026 08:17

He was aggressive and threatening. You need to report this behaviour to the police and get a crime reference. You can contact them online or call 101. You will need the crime reference to establish a pattern of behaviour going forward in case your ex and his mother try to coerce your children into seeing their grandfather.

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