As a disabled woman sick of being terrified on the pavement to feel happy reading about the destruction of e-scooters and e-bikes?

[pinkksugarmouse]

I know some people will want me to be crucified over this. That's mumsnet. I get it. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis. The number of times I have almost been hit by one of these...I have had to walk into busy roads. I've even experienced being sworn out for daring to use the footpath.
Some cyclists and scooter users are a menace and I think they have become emboldened because of the electric vehicles.
They are dangerous, illegal and whenever I see a big piles of these monstrous pieces of s#*t being destroyed I feel relief. Anyone who buys these for children is selfish and stupid. IMHO.

So get your pitchforks out. Time to tell me what an abomination I am....its eniveitable.

Mobility scooters?

Chikdrens scooters, parents running with push chairs? Kids in rollerskates

Running is foot power though.

I think anything with wheels on a pavement should be restricted to jogging pace at most. Use the pedestrian space, behave like a pedestrian.

So considerate cycling on pavements?

Totally agree about escooters.

I'd also like to see laws actually enforced, which they don't seem to be round my way.

only because pedestrians are having to jump out of the way. They aren’t fine simple because not many people have died as compared to cars.

I do think childrens scooter s are part of the problem actually. Far too many children are allowed to use them inappropriately. Too fast, to far from parents, across roads, in bust areas, inside... Then the children ate growing up thinking that its normal and they get the high powered versions.

Woman with serious leg injuries after being run over my a mobility scooter in a car park reported this morning

all powered vehicles can cause damage when driven badly.

I think a speed limit of walking pace (5km an hour) for wheeled vehicles on pavements rather than an outright ban - simply because the risk to people on the roads is so much greater than the current risk to people on pavements so moving them onto roads would kill and injure far more people. You might be safer but more people would die and that isn’t acceptable for me

do all schools now do bike safety - teaching them safe and respectful behaviours - I don’t recall my children doing that ( may have been a pay extra for option ) but I did at primary

If allowed at all, at walking pace & with the understanding that they can’t expect pedestrians to move out of the way for them.

Walking pace is more reasonable than jogging pace actually.

Electric scooters and bycycles, idiots on mobility scooters who think it's OK to drive along a pavement at top speed. They all need to get in the bin. If you're deaf or hard of hearing you have no warning they're behind you. Totally agree with one of the other comments saying they should be limited to jogging pace on pavements.

Although I’ve rethought that a bit now. Wheeled vehicles are more dangerous than pedestrians (and yes I do include children’s bikes & scooters in that, if one of them rams into an old or disabled person) so I think vehicles on pavements should be limited to walking speed for maximum safety.

Edinburgh now has these Voi ebikes that people can just pick up and ride. And they ALL ride on the pavement. It is completely shit and I hate being there as a result. Never thought a nice place could be so completely ruined like this - if you think walking around German cities is stressful because of the cyclists take a go in the Scottish capital. Horrible chaos.

Another thing that bothers me is that before the awful case with the blind woman being put in prison because of the moronic cyclist falling in front of a car while cycling on the pavement, I'd have felt well within my rights to give a cyclist who put me in danger a hard shove away. Now I feel there's an expectation on pedestrians just to accept injury in case the poor cyclists get hurt by their own selfish arrogance.

The conviction was overturnedbut calling a ln elderly woman on what was believed to be a shared pedestrian/cycle path "moronic" isn't exactly fair. It was two vulnerable users meeting in such a a way that caused the death of one while the other then just went shopping. It was a horrible case.

She cycled on the pavement and then fell in front of a car because she wasn't in control of her bicycle. Her own husband described her in court as very experienced and a very confident cyclist. She made a choice to endanger pedestrians for her own convenience and was architect of her own demise.

Literally just drove by two young boys riding one bike, no helmets, on the road, no fucks given. Stupid parents will have bought them the bikes for xmas no doubt, but it will be them crying that they should have been told they were dangerous when their boys brains are splattered all over the road. Stupidity breeds stupidity.

Dd got knocked over by one of those scooters on her 16th birthday and knocked a tooth out when she feel. The guy riding did come back and apologise.

Crush the parents too?

Children's scooters, parents running with push chairs? Kids in rollerskates

They can all take themselves off to a playing field. Same with dog owners who don't have their dogs properly under control, so the owner is on one side of the pavement and the dog on the other, with the lead stretched out between them. Doesn't anyone train their dog to walk to heel any more?

I bet he didn't wait for the police to arrive and charge him, though.

They don't even train their dogs not to pee on people and private property

Awful for your Dd. Hope he offered to pay for the dental treatment?

He was around 12-13 no he didn't but she did get free treatment still being in education.

Dd didn't call the police she was happy that he apologised. In hind sight she should have called the police but she didn't

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The inertia of the highways authorities to address infuriates me. It’s driving people back to their cars rather than travelling by foot.