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To think running at someone and causing a finger injury

46 replies

360whatdoyoumeab · 31/12/2025 17:47

Is still assault even if you were trying to get a item off the person rather than planning to assault them

OP posts:
Millytante · 31/12/2025 20:14

NeverDropYourMooncup · 31/12/2025 19:05

If somebody did that to you, yes, you were assaulted by them.

Are you safe now? Or are you being gaslighted into thinking that you deserved it?

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360whatdoyoumeab · 31/12/2025 20:15

It was done to a nurse by a patient after they removed something for their safety.

OP posts:
SoScarletItWas · 31/12/2025 20:16

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 31/12/2025 18:09

Really? Another thread from you with an annoyingly short OP that lacks all information? That’s two in 24 hours and you never responded in your last thread.

Sounds like the social-media-insult-vs-IRL-insult poster who had the police round to ‘have a go’ recently.

BartholemewTheCat · 31/12/2025 20:18

360whatdoyoumeab · 31/12/2025 20:15

It was done to a nurse by a patient after they removed something for their safety.

Assuming the patient lacked capacity?

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 31/12/2025 21:00

360whatdoyoumeab · 31/12/2025 20:15

It was done to a nurse by a patient after they removed something for their safety.

Oh yeah dreadful nurse… clearly planning her day to upset a patient, did she hurt their finger defending her self from their attack?! Strike her off! 🙄

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 31/12/2025 21:03

SoScarletItWas · 31/12/2025 20:16

Sounds like the social-media-insult-vs-IRL-insult poster who had the police round to ‘have a go’ recently.

Infamy infamy they’ve all got it in fa me!!
who is fyi a paragon of virtue and perfection…. And is NEVER physically or verbally abusive/agressive ..

ParallelLimes · 31/12/2025 21:06

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 31/12/2025 21:00

Oh yeah dreadful nurse… clearly planning her day to upset a patient, did she hurt their finger defending her self from their attack?! Strike her off! 🙄

It was done to a nurse by a patient. I think you've got it the wrong way round.

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 31/12/2025 21:31

ParallelLimes · 31/12/2025 21:06

It was done to a nurse by a patient. I think you've got it the wrong way round.

Re reading I think I might, but the horrendous comms of the op am hoping she’s not a nurse!

360whatdoyoumeab · 01/01/2026 14:27

BartholemewTheCat · 31/12/2025 20:18

Assuming the patient lacked capacity?

No they had eupd.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 01/01/2026 14:30

Vaguebooking is annoying.

somanychristmaslights · 01/01/2026 14:32

What is the point in asking a very vague question that no one can give any answer to??

EatYourDamnPie · 01/01/2026 14:35

360whatdoyoumeab · 31/12/2025 20:15

It was done to a nurse by a patient after they removed something for their safety.

Depends how the injury occurred. Was it after the patient body slammed into the nurse? Was it while they tried to grab the item back? Is the running relevant to the injury?

Millytante · 01/01/2026 14:48

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 31/12/2025 21:31

Re reading I think I might, but the horrendous comms of the op am hoping she’s not a nurse!

It’s all this business with everybody’s damn pronouns. Now it’s spread to prepositions too!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/01/2026 14:57

360whatdoyoumeab · 31/12/2025 20:15

It was done to a nurse by a patient after they removed something for their safety.

Did you assault the nurse, then?

mrsmalcolmreynolds · 01/01/2026 15:05

In broad terms the person who's committed the criminal act (here physical harm) must have either intended to do so or have been reckless as to whether they did in order for a crime (here ABH - actual bodily harm - seems most likely) to have been committed.

steff13 · 01/01/2026 15:08

So the nurse took an item away from a patient, and in the process of trying to get it back, the patient injured the nurse? It may technically be classed as assault, but I don't know that the person would be prosecuted. Removing something "for their safety" implies they the person may have been in the throes of a mental health episode at the time.

HisNibs · 01/01/2026 15:24

Running at the nurse after having an item removed (for safety) would require a conscious effort I feel. To me that would remove any "defence" of it being a reflex or protective action. I doubt the nurse was removing the item for shits and giggles. Assault... possibly.

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 01/01/2026 15:28

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/01/2026 14:57

Did you assault the nurse, then?

Or your family members done this? Still can’t work this out!!

Nursemumma92 · 01/01/2026 15:39

It depends on intent, and context... I know you said patient doesn't lack capacity but has EUPD. Were they under section at the time or was this in an informal setting? I appreciate I'm making assumptions based on very little but there is so little context that no one could possibly answer that.

Bones75 · 01/01/2026 16:00

I'd say accident rather than assault if there was no intent behind it

JLou08 · 01/01/2026 16:13

360whatdoyoumeab · 01/01/2026 14:27

No they had eupd.

They could still have been lacking capacity, even if it was fluctuating. If they were experiencing a mental health crisis and trying to harm themselves I wouldn't think they were in control of their behaviour.

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