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To feel very sorry for this doctor

699 replies

runningpram · 31/12/2025 09:07

I feel the way this lady has been treated is appalling.
Obviously this wasn’t the right thing to do but she wasn’t leaving early and there was no patient detriment. Why were her managers not supporting her better?
Why on earth could not this have been sorted out within the practise without a formal disciplinary process? As a working mum I really feel for her. Could someone medical shed light on why this would have been blown up into such an issue?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15422147/amp/GP-faked-medical-appointments-work-not-late-afternoon-school-run-suspended-practising-5-months.html

GP faked medical appointments at work so she could make school run

A family doctor who faked medical appointments at work so she would not be late for the afternoon school run has been suspended from treating patients.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15422147/amp/GP-faked-medical-appointments-work-not-late-afternoon-school-run-suspended-practising-5-months.html

OP posts:
ThatCyanCat · 31/12/2025 12:30

runningpram · 31/12/2025 09:20

She ‘should have been struck off’ really???
🤔

She falsified medical records!

usedtobeaylis · 31/12/2025 12:30

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/12/2025 12:27

Beautifully put

Except, being a woman, some will make all manner of excuses for her and still carry on about women not being taken seriously enough in the workplace Hmm

And why the insistence that she must have been "desperate" to take the risk?
Naturally she'll try to appear contrite now she's been caught, but some simply consider themselves entitled to take what they want regardless of the impact on anyone else, and women (and doctors, come to that) aren't exempt from this

Edited

The two things aren't mutually exclusive though are they?

Simonjt · 31/12/2025 12:30

Tulipsriver · 31/12/2025 12:19

If that's the full story, I feel sorry for her. She should never have been put in a position where her work would make her late for picking her children up. If her childcare finished at 6pm, that's when she needs to have picked them up.

DH blocks his diary out for admin during his last half hour of work on days he does the nursery run. If his employer didn't allow this, he would have to tell whoever he was in a meeting with that he was leaving when the time came... not everyone has family help and picking your children up is pretty much the most non negotiable thing I can think of. Or are the low paid childcare staff just supposed to hang around all night with upset children waiting for their parents?

She chose to put herself in that position by choosing to book a shift as overtime knowing that she hadn’t booked childcare to actually cover her working day.

TheKeatingFive · 31/12/2025 12:31

usedtobeaylis · 31/12/2025 12:27

I have sympathy for any mother trying to juggle in this way. I don't condone what she done, I do understand why she was struggling and felt desperate enough to take such a risk.

How about simply not taking on the extra hours, which she was under no pressure to do and she didn't have childcare to cover?

Then there would be no need for desperation and risk taking.

TheKeatingFive · 31/12/2025 12:32

usedtobeaylis · 31/12/2025 12:29

Its not every woman's job to take on the weight of systems though. Sometimes they just try to get from day to day within them.

It is their job to fulfil the terms of their contract however

NeverDropYourMooncup · 31/12/2025 12:34

GettingBlamed · 31/12/2025 12:02

It was a one off she was clearly desperate and made a mistake.

Oh yeah, sure it was.

More likely the one-off that was caught by her employer, who then would have to go through every single appointment she'd ever recorded to make sure that the patients had actually been seen and weren't still ill, being inappropriately treated or worse, had subsequently died.

I'm trying to think of a job I've done where 'Oh yeah, I was definitely working, here are the [falsified] records to prove it' wouldn't have got me fired for gross professional misconduct. I can't.

Anything from a cleaner being paid to vacuum and mop a floor but setting a Roomba and leaving, saying I was taking calls from claimants I'd spoken to and processed their claim earlier whilst my phone was actually on DND, reckoning I was definitely supervising those teenagers until 5pm when I wasn't paying the slightest bit of attention and told them to just make sure they left at 5pm before the caretaker came round to lock up at 5.10pm, pretending I was busy working when I'd actually run the reports earlier in the day and made up some of the data on attendance, assuming that because they had been seen earlier, they probably hadn't gone over the fence or hidden with their mates or a girlfriend and I could therefore claim that they were definitely in afternoon registration, that those high risk prisoners/patients were definitely alive and well when I saw them (but didn't actually) - falsifying records to hide that I wasn't doing the part of my job I was required to do at that time would have been completely unacceptable in all of them.

DeftWasp · 31/12/2025 12:34

Occasionalcyclist · 31/12/2025 12:07

It's not "a professional issue that must arise frequently", that's why I and other doctors are posting on here shocked at her behaviour. The vast, vast majority of doctors don't breach probity, commit fraud and then lie about it. Because we know that it's unethical and wrong, and that we'd likely be hauled up before the GMC to face some very tricky questioning. All doctors know not to do it.

Edited

As you are a doctor, maybe you can confirm my suspicion that in order to set up these bogus appointments she would have had to use actual patients - and to have entered something in the way of notes on their files to prevent it showing up as "dodgy"?

I ask because I don't know how the system works.

haveaword · 31/12/2025 12:37

Sad a mother has had to resort to this because her other role as parent could not be accommodated

if she did not ask then no she’s gone about it the wrong way

if there is more than this then fair enough

Shes not the first person to be flexible around hours to juggle and shame all the women on this thread sitting in judgement

where is the children’s father?

Changename12 · 31/12/2025 12:38

Simonjt · 31/12/2025 12:30

She chose to put herself in that position by choosing to book a shift as overtime knowing that she hadn’t booked childcare to actually cover her working day.

She wanted to leave on time. If you read the BMJ judgement, she only did it on one occasion (2 appointments) so that she could leave on time.

Elsvieta · 31/12/2025 12:40

What sort of "support" should she have had? Most of us have set working hours, and then have to arrange our personal stuff around it, end of. Those of us who earn less than half what she does have to sort our childcare out without bringing our bosses into it. On 60k she can get a babysitter or whatever.

TheKeatingFive · 31/12/2025 12:40

Changename12 · 31/12/2025 12:38

She wanted to leave on time. If you read the BMJ judgement, she only did it on one occasion (2 appointments) so that she could leave on time.

In some jobs, you don't get to walk off the pitch when the clock strikes the hour. You plan your childcare around that.

What you definitely don't do is lie about the hours you've done and then falsify patient records to support your lies.

DeftWasp · 31/12/2025 12:41

haveaword · 31/12/2025 12:37

Sad a mother has had to resort to this because her other role as parent could not be accommodated

if she did not ask then no she’s gone about it the wrong way

if there is more than this then fair enough

Shes not the first person to be flexible around hours to juggle and shame all the women on this thread sitting in judgement

where is the children’s father?

She didn't need to do it though, she admitted there was no financial imperative.

So she didn't have to resort to it.

Sidebeforeself · 31/12/2025 12:41

haveaword · 31/12/2025 12:37

Sad a mother has had to resort to this because her other role as parent could not be accommodated

if she did not ask then no she’s gone about it the wrong way

if there is more than this then fair enough

Shes not the first person to be flexible around hours to juggle and shame all the women on this thread sitting in judgement

where is the children’s father?

Sorry? Are we, as women, not allowed to have an option then?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/12/2025 12:42

GettingBlamed · 31/12/2025 12:02

It was a one off she was clearly desperate and made a mistake.

Was it?

I'm not aware that this has been divulged so won't be assuming either way, but once again we have the "desperate" thrown in for little obvious reason, rather than accept that women also have conditions of employment and are very reasonably expected to adhere to them

MsRumpole · 31/12/2025 12:42

DeftWasp · 31/12/2025 12:34

As you are a doctor, maybe you can confirm my suspicion that in order to set up these bogus appointments she would have had to use actual patients - and to have entered something in the way of notes on their files to prevent it showing up as "dodgy"?

I ask because I don't know how the system works.

Apparently she entered the details of two patients she had seen as telephone consults earlier in the day, as if she had seen them in person. She initially didn't put any notes down at all for the , that was raised with her and she then entered falsified notes for them. It was then noted that she had seen these patients earlier in the day and that they would not have needed further appointments later.

To the person asking how OP knows this doctor felt bad about it, it's reported in the Daily Mail and the Times (where I first read it) that she expressed remorse and said she would never compromise herself or the NHS again.

Rewis · 31/12/2025 12:45

Sure, block your calendar because of 'patients' but falcifying patient records? Fuck that.

DeftWasp · 31/12/2025 12:46

MsRumpole · 31/12/2025 12:42

Apparently she entered the details of two patients she had seen as telephone consults earlier in the day, as if she had seen them in person. She initially didn't put any notes down at all for the , that was raised with her and she then entered falsified notes for them. It was then noted that she had seen these patients earlier in the day and that they would not have needed further appointments later.

To the person asking how OP knows this doctor felt bad about it, it's reported in the Daily Mail and the Times (where I first read it) that she expressed remorse and said she would never compromise herself or the NHS again.

So she could in theory have put those patients health at risk by saying she'd seen them in person, with no further action needed, when in truth she had only spoken on the phone.

I'm hoping she had chosen fairly safe bets to do that to!

Unforgivable, she shouldn't be allowed back.

AgeingDoc · 31/12/2025 12:46

Allswellthatendswelll · 31/12/2025 11:35

But she's already paying for nursery. What childcare is in between 6-7 apart from a nanny on top of nursery? It said in the article she earnt 60k which doesn't pay for a nanny. Do we want women to work in jobs like being a GP or not?

My SIL is a GP uses help from her parents to get her kids when she runs over as her husband is a hospital doctor. But not everyone has parents to help.

I'm not condoning what she did but there is obviously a problem here in society for working mothers.

No, not everyone has parents to help. When I was a newish consultant in an acute hospital specialty with 3 young children, one of whom had a long term health condition, not only was my nearest relative over 150 miles away but that was my Mum who was dying and needed my support too. It was tough. But do you know how many times I committed fraud or did anything else that might have got me a visit to the GMC during those difficult years? Zero. And nor did any of the other doctors I know who faced similar challenges.
It is hard juggling family and work commitments if you don't have extended family support. I have sympathy for parents in that position but it's not that special or uncommon. Lots of doctors are in similar positions and find solutions that don't involve behaving unprofessionally. And medicine is hardly unique either. Many people in other roles face manage to overcome the same kind of problems without resorting to this kind of behaviour.
I think the punishment was reasonable. She has not been removed from the register permanently so has the chance to redeem herself. But it's more than a minor error of judgement. She knew what she was doing was wrong and she subsequently lied about it - that is not acting with honesty and integrity as required by the GMC. I think permanent removal would have been excessive but it is definitely more than a slap on the wrist type offence.

godmum56 · 31/12/2025 12:46

AppropriateAdult · 31/12/2025 10:47

No, I didn’t say that at all. I said it should have been handled at a practice level rather than becoming a regulatory issue. Please at least read posts if you’re going to quote them.

as soon as someone falsifies records, its a regulatory issue. Any practice that does not deal with it as such is putting themsleves in the shit. I am amazed you don't know this.

Garroty · 31/12/2025 12:47

I have empathy for her too. There are a lot of things she could have done to handle this better but so often there is an expectation on working parents (mothers particularly) to handle things silently and without needing help or allowances, and the pressure can lead people into bad decisions. She shouldn't have done what she did but there is a systemic issue too which puts people in very difficult positions.

Butchyrestingface · 31/12/2025 12:50

I felt its positioning as HEADLINE NEWS in the DM was unjustified and disproportionate. I do feel sorry for her to an extent, but also think suspension from her job was probably inevitable after she falsified records and the trust was gone. I think she self referred to the GMC.

MILLYmo0se · 31/12/2025 12:51

DeftWasp · 31/12/2025 12:34

As you are a doctor, maybe you can confirm my suspicion that in order to set up these bogus appointments she would have had to use actual patients - and to have entered something in the way of notes on their files to prevent it showing up as "dodgy"?

I ask because I don't know how the system works.

It says that she used 2 patients that she had spoken to on phone appointments to book in fake face to face appointments with, then when a partner questioned discrepencies she added fake appointment notes to their files

TryingToBeLogical · 31/12/2025 12:52

If I was one of those patients whose medical records had been falsified I would be livid. She has damaged the credibility of her entire profession and her practice. And the credibility of working mothers. Horrible.

Butchyrestingface · 31/12/2025 12:55

Lifelover16 · 31/12/2025 12:05

she chose to take those shifts as extra locum work , faked appointments then falsified records to say that patients attended when they hadn’t. I think she got off lightly.

Ah, that make it worse.

Linnelaura2 · 31/12/2025 12:56

I think she was stupid