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To feel very sorry for this doctor

699 replies

runningpram · 31/12/2025 09:07

I feel the way this lady has been treated is appalling.
Obviously this wasn’t the right thing to do but she wasn’t leaving early and there was no patient detriment. Why were her managers not supporting her better?
Why on earth could not this have been sorted out within the practise without a formal disciplinary process? As a working mum I really feel for her. Could someone medical shed light on why this would have been blown up into such an issue?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15422147/amp/GP-faked-medical-appointments-work-not-late-afternoon-school-run-suspended-practising-5-months.html

GP faked medical appointments at work so she could make school run

A family doctor who faked medical appointments at work so she would not be late for the afternoon school run has been suspended from treating patients.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15422147/amp/GP-faked-medical-appointments-work-not-late-afternoon-school-run-suspended-practising-5-months.html

OP posts:
MILLYmo0se · 31/12/2025 10:53

Goldengirl123 · 31/12/2025 09:38

I work in a GP surgery and a couple of the doctors do this every shift. They don’t even do a school run. Nothing can be said as they are the partners

They block out the end of the shift as being unavailable? Or they fill in the appointment slots with patient names and then access their files and add false information? Because those are 2 very different situations

Linnelaura2 · 31/12/2025 10:54

godmum56 · 31/12/2025 10:42

yup, for faking a clinical record absolutely. I speak as retired clinician.

I have to say...i've worked in a lot of different industries.

Ive seen people minorly falsify records - in all of them.

One time - I saw my signature on a document.

I had never signed it. I asked and she said that I wasnt in that day and it needed signing.

Clockyclockz · 31/12/2025 10:54

I think it’s odd she was struck off as other doctors seem to get away with worse.

However greed & lying is never a good look.

berlinbaby2025 · 31/12/2025 10:54

AppropriateAdult · 31/12/2025 10:47

No, I didn’t say that at all. I said it should have been handled at a practice level rather than becoming a regulatory issue. Please at least read posts if you’re going to quote them.

It was initially handled at practice level. After lying to the partners, she had a meeting at the practice, confessed and then she referred herself to the GMC.

LordofMisrule1 · 31/12/2025 10:54

AppropriateAdult · 31/12/2025 10:34

As a GP myself, I think it’s crazy that this wasn’t handled at a practice level and instead became a regulatory issue.

It’s clear from the story that she was supposed to finish at 4:45 - what she was afraid of was the very common scenario whereby admin staff book in extra patients at the end of the day, even though there aren’t available slots to accommodate them. This is expected of us all the time, and usually we just do it, but I can totally understand her taking steps to avoid it if she had a particular childcare commitment that day.

In my practice, I’d just block off these slots as ‘Not Available’ and nobody would have any issue with that - because I’m treated as a professional, I go the extra mile fifty times a day and so when I need to be cut a bit of slack there’s give and take. If she was a locum in a practice that didn’t know her well, she may not have felt she could do this.

Adjusting the records is wrong, but as I understand it she had had consultations with those patients on the day - she just reclassified them as face to face appointments rather than phone.

Anyway, I don’t see how anyone benefits from her being suspended from practicing. When I see this level of micromanaging and nitpicking, I’m very glad I don’t work for the NHS.

She didn't just adjust them, though. She added notes to their record for a made up consultation, including documenting that she'd examined at least one patient. That's what makes this so serious IMO. I would have been concerned if the practice tried to sweep this under the rug.

caramac04 · 31/12/2025 10:54

Yet women on minimum wage jobs have to sort out school runs, childcare etc.
Unfortunately lying is never good and this could have been the thin end of the wedge. Once it becomes a habit and acceptable to the liar then bigger or additional lies can become acceptable.
I do recognise though that a father is less likely to be in her position.

TheKeatingFive · 31/12/2025 10:56

Linnelaura2 · 31/12/2025 10:54

I have to say...i've worked in a lot of different industries.

Ive seen people minorly falsify records - in all of them.

One time - I saw my signature on a document.

I had never signed it. I asked and she said that I wasnt in that day and it needed signing.

Well that IS fraud and shouldn't have happened.

Regardless, that doesn't meaning faking patient records is fine. Can't you understand the implications of that?

Settingstory · 31/12/2025 10:57

MILLYmo0se · 31/12/2025 10:53

They block out the end of the shift as being unavailable? Or they fill in the appointment slots with patient names and then access their files and add false information? Because those are 2 very different situations

It’s really common in poor practices for slot blocking to take place for all kinds of reasons (such as ‘signing off scripts’) It’s not allowed where I work unless you genuinely had an emergency (a collapse, a home visit, crisis patient over running) and then that patients name would be put in there as an ‘extension’ of the original appointment and a false consult wouldn’t be recorded!

AppropriateAdult · 31/12/2025 10:57

Simonjt · 31/12/2025 10:38

She then added notes to their records stating she had physically examined them, she didn’t even bother matching the fake examination to the correct phone patient and only added the notes when her odd appointments were noticed by another member of staff. How is suffering consequences for falsifying medical records nitpicking?

By the ‘nitpicking’, I’m referring to the fact that she couldn’t just block off the slots, but felt she had to create false appointments in order to justify leaving on time. It’s clear she only added the false notes afterwards once she’d been hauled up on this. The problem is with the creation of a work environment whereby a clinician felt she couldn’t just hold the boundary of her designated working hours, but instead had to create false appointments just to ensure she would finish at the correct time. Of course I’m not justifying making false additions to the records. But I don’t think people realise just how much pressure GPs are under, the completely unrealistic level of service you’re expected to deliver within allotted appointment times, and how many unpaid hours you have to spend on essential
administrative work.

She was very silly to do this, but I can understand and sympathise with the pressures that drove her there.

*Edited to add one additional sentence - sorry, this thread is moving very fast!

AgeingDoc · 31/12/2025 10:57

I can sympathise with the stress around juggling a professional role with unpredictable hours and caring responsibilities but it's a problem that very large numbers of working parents, people who care for elderly parents and others, face on a daily basis. The vast majority of us do so without commiting fraud. Yes, it can be tough. I'm sure many of us, in many professions have had the experience of something unexpected happening at work which has delayed you when you need to pick up kids etc and it's very stressful. It happens a lot though, in medicine and other professions, so you need robust fall back plans. And in this case it wasn't even an unexpected emergency but a predictable problem that she needed to find a solution to - an honest, legal solution. She didn't do that. She deliberately lied and falsified records. I'm sympathetic towards the problem but can't see any justification for the actions she took.
I think she's been treated fairly. I know of doctors who have been more harshly treated for what I'd say were less serious infractions.

PinkiOcelot · 31/12/2025 10:58

sickleaveornot · 31/12/2025 09:19

  1. she was questioned internally and denied everything
  2. it's more then just booking in fake appointments she went as far to add notes to actual peoples records to account for the fake appointments - so while no may harm may have strictly happened it could still have caused issues at some point

The article I read said said she actually had a telephone appointment with the patients so didn’t actually put false illnesses in people’s notes.

Mookie81 · 31/12/2025 10:58

Allswellthatendswelll · 31/12/2025 09:29

I'm not condoning lying but if her kids nursery finished at 6 (and they fine you loads) but she's not finishing at work until then how is she meant to fill the gap?

Use a childminder, nanny, or maybe not take an extra shift she didn't need to if she had no bloody childcare? She's a scumbag who gives working mothers a bad name.

Parcell · 31/12/2025 10:59

Every working parent has had this dilemma. I used to leave work early (with my managers consent) one day a week and spend £££ on a taxi to collect my DD from nursery. She should have sorted it out with her workplace.

I realise there are mitigating circumstances but I don’t think she has been treated unfairly. If I made up fictitious appointments and falsified records I would probably be sacked and possibly prosecuted. She is lucky to just be suspended.

Simonjt · 31/12/2025 11:00

AppropriateAdult · 31/12/2025 10:57

By the ‘nitpicking’, I’m referring to the fact that she couldn’t just block off the slots, but felt she had to create false appointments in order to justify leaving on time. It’s clear she only added the false notes afterwards once she’d been hauled up on this. The problem is with the creation of a work environment whereby a clinician felt she couldn’t just hold the boundary of her designated working hours, but instead had to create false appointments just to ensure she would finish at the correct time. Of course I’m not justifying making false additions to the records. But I don’t think people realise just how much pressure GPs are under, the completely unrealistic level of service you’re expected to deliver within allotted appointment times, and how many unpaid hours you have to spend on essential
administrative work.

She was very silly to do this, but I can understand and sympathise with the pressures that drove her there.

*Edited to add one additional sentence - sorry, this thread is moving very fast!

Edited

She stated herself that she wasn’t under any pressure to take additonal work as a locum, professionally or personally.

MaybeNotNo · 31/12/2025 11:00

She initially denied wrongdoing but enquiries showed she had not only blocked her diary in the late afternoon to avoid seeing other patients but also falsified entries in the work diary suggesting she did have the face-to-face consultations

Did you miss this ?

rockwater · 31/12/2025 11:00

PinkiOcelot · 31/12/2025 10:58

The article I read said said she actually had a telephone appointment with the patients so didn’t actually put false illnesses in people’s notes.

No she said she had physically examined them when she had not- this could lead to someone not being investigated further if another GP thought they had been examined. This means cancers could have been missed.

littleredpiano · 31/12/2025 11:01

Salvadoridory · 31/12/2025 09:15

I have no sympathy at all. Being in a corporate leadership role in a big corporation is made more challenging for women because of crap like this. And lends some sympathy to the school of thought that you do have to choose sometimes between a career and children. Even though she is only a GP, people still looked up to and trusted her. Using the school run as an excuse is disgusting. Theres nothing wrong with being honest about the sacrifices you need to make in either direction. She should have been struck off.

Maybe I’ve misinterpreted your post but…‘Even though she is ‘only’ a GP? Only?! GP roles, along with teachers and emergency services are never ‘only’ roles…

Simonjt · 31/12/2025 11:01

PinkiOcelot · 31/12/2025 10:58

The article I read said said she actually had a telephone appointment with the patients so didn’t actually put false illnesses in people’s notes.

Well she did as she states herself she put the wrong fake notes against the wrong patients. For the ones she got ‘right’ she falsely claimed that she physically examined the patient. Both of those things could have an impact on future healthcare.

Linnelaura2 · 31/12/2025 11:01

TheKeatingFive · 31/12/2025 10:56

Well that IS fraud and shouldn't have happened.

Regardless, that doesn't meaning faking patient records is fine. Can't you understand the implications of that?

I didnt say it was right.

I said that Ive seen it happen everywhere ive been.

Its hard to know when to report or not, as in some of these places the behaviour was happening at manager level too

PinkiOcelot · 31/12/2025 11:02

rockwater · 31/12/2025 11:00

No she said she had physically examined them when she had not- this could lead to someone not being investigated further if another GP thought they had been examined. This means cancers could have been missed.

Ahh yes. True.

Settingstory · 31/12/2025 11:03

PinkiOcelot · 31/12/2025 10:58

The article I read said said she actually had a telephone appointment with the patients so didn’t actually put false illnesses in people’s notes.

she put fake face to face exams in?

X123x321X · 31/12/2025 11:03

runningpram · 31/12/2025 09:20

She ‘should have been struck off’ really???
🤔

Of course. She accessed and messed with patients' medical records.

ViciousCurrentBun · 31/12/2025 11:06

She lied plus as much as childcare should be sorted between parents if there are two she has shown that women are unreliable because of childcare issues. It’s the sort of issue that consciously and subconsciously keeps women seen as lesser in the workplace by some.

Strictly1 · 31/12/2025 11:08

DontFallInTheHaHa · 31/12/2025 09:25

YANBU.

Why was she put in a situation where she was so worried that her kids would be left in an empty school? And what made her resort to lying about it? I can’t imagine she jumped straight to lying, I think it’s likely it spiralled into lying because she had no other choice. Sounds like a very harmful and toxic cultures whereby workers weren’t allowed a work/life balance and women had to pretend they don’t have children.

Now there’s 1 less practicing GP, and who does that help? There are GPs making actual medical mistakes still prat king but a woman is sacked because gasp she prioritised her children.

It actually uncovers alarming misogyny IMO. I hope all the female GPs are ok

What a load of rubbish. She accepted additional shifts for extra money which would have been increased due to it being locum. Then lied and lied, falsifying medical records. But because she’s a woman with children all that should be overlooked and have our sympathy? Well, she hasn’t got mine. She was greedy and lied - I don’t care of the person’s gender. They put people at risk for their own selfish gains.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 31/12/2025 11:11

Simonjt · 31/12/2025 11:00

She stated herself that she wasn’t under any pressure to take additonal work as a locum, professionally or personally.

I'm starting to think this needs to be pinned at the top of every page!