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Council not giving extra allowance for those whose bin dates not changed

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Cozc · 29/12/2025 07:30

Depending on your bin day and when Christmas falls, your bin day can change. Those who have theirs changed, council allows residents put up to 3 bags of black bags by their rubbish wheelie bin.

Then what happens in areas of the town where the bin days are unchanged, people are putting excess rubbish in street litter bins or fly tip bags. Litter bins are not designed for rubbish.

If you do host Christmas gatherings at your home, you produce the same amount of rubbish regardless of the day of the week Christmas Day falls on. Then tip has reduced hours for the Xmas/NY period.

My parents were able to their late neighbours’ wheelie bin. As both died this year. Probably won’t have the opportunity again as the property has gone onto the market.

If councils allow all households an extra allowance for rubbish, there would be less rubbish about

OP posts:
Sahara123 · 29/12/2025 09:55

TheNightingalesStarling · 29/12/2025 07:39

@Caspianberg most wrapping paper is not considered recyclable and has to be kept separate.
Same with most plastics.

I always buy recyclable wrapping paper, this year from Sainsbury’s and Waitrose ? Am I being misled ?!

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 29/12/2025 09:56

PickAChew · 29/12/2025 09:52

Not everyone has food waste deliveries or access to somewhere to put a compost bin.

I have a garden but it's very narrow (8' wide) so I don't have the space for a compost bin, I also have very little need for compost so while I try and recycle as much as possible I would dig my heels in if the council wanted me to have a compost bin!

DancingLions · 29/12/2025 09:57

I must be in a lucky minority because there is no limit on our bins. We have weekly collections for both recycling and rubbish and they just take what we put out. We have old fashioned black bins with lids (use black sacks for those) and green boxes for recycling (I put the recycling stuff in white bags and stick them in or near the box). I live in a conversion so also have a downstairs neighbour who puts rubbish out. They’ve never not taken anything.

Garden rubbish is once a fortnight and we have bags from the council for that. Bulky collections £10 per item. Although the people who collect those are great and will take whatever is out there, they aren’t sticklers about it. What do people do if you don’t drive and so can’t take anything to the tip?

daffodilandtulip · 29/12/2025 09:57

Last year we missed for Christmas then missed for bad weather so went from something like 9 Dec to 20 Jan. Still no extra allowed.

Allthecoloursoftherainbow4 · 29/12/2025 10:01

TheNightingalesStarling · 29/12/2025 07:39

@Caspianberg most wrapping paper is not considered recyclable and has to be kept separate.
Same with most plastics.

These days loads of wrapping paper is recyclable. All the major supermarkets including Aldi sell the brown paper type (including lovely colourful versions) so there's literally no excuse for using non recyclable paper. I don't understand why anyone is still buying the foil type that isn't recyclable now

DiscoBeat · 29/12/2025 10:04

We've got a spare bin when we had a new one delivered but they never took away the old one so we get that out at Christmas!

PissedOffNeighbour22 · 29/12/2025 10:04

It’s really pissed me off this year as our council haven’t changed the days, just ignored the collection. So we have 3wks to wait on one bin being collected and 4wks on the other. They won’t take the bin if the lid isn’t shut.

BringBackCatsEyes · 29/12/2025 10:11

Caspianberg · 29/12/2025 07:37

Sorry, I don’t get how people have so much black bin rubbish, regardless of time of year.

Ours is collected monthly where we live. And it’s rarely half full

Almost all Christmas related waste surely is recycled? ( paper or plastic), or extra compost ( own garden compost or in food waste bin). Very little goes in black bin

I have barely any increase in my black (non-recyclable) bin.
The increase is in my dry recyclable - lots more cardboard and paper. I thought most people bought recyclable wrap these days.

Blackberrybrandy · 29/12/2025 10:14

In just a few miles of my house there are four different councils with different waste and recycling rules. All collect recycling one week and black rubbish the next. All have different lists of what they can recycle. All have different tips with different collection skips (and some require booking with proof of address).

We will be fine although our bin collections will be two weeks behind. I have two general recycling bins (because when they were introduced the council left one by the front and back gate - not because they will let you order extra), one green garden / food waste (paid for) and one black bin. They won't accept any extra cardboard alongside the recycling bin. The green bin collection usually goes with the recycling bins but has a few months off over winter. The next nearest village has no green bins but a similar recycling set up.

Three miles away my mum has a garden waste bin (not paid for yet), rubbish bin, tote bag for cardboard recycling and a small plastic box for tins and glass. Her council won't accept any extra recycling outside of these official tubs.

The other council has always been properly on top of recycling - rubbish bin, free green waste bin, and then unlimited rolls of plastic bin bags for mixed recycling and even fabric recycling bags which are taken with the other recycling.

If you live in an area with a decent recycling system it's all great even if you do have your bin collections pushed back a few weeks. But it is a privilege and so dependent on circumstances. I don't have lots of people visiting for meals (and when we do visit I tend to bring the recycling home because of my second bin privilege), I don't have kids in nappies, there are no medical needs, we can afford the green bin collection service, I have a huge wormery for food waste (and if people put their veg trimmings in a Tupperware tub I will happily give those to the worms - people take the piss out of my worms 11 months a year but come Christmas it's veg trimmings galore for them).

Twirlyhockey · 29/12/2025 10:15

BringBackCatsEyes · 29/12/2025 10:11

I have barely any increase in my black (non-recyclable) bin.
The increase is in my dry recyclable - lots more cardboard and paper. I thought most people bought recyclable wrap these days.

So you have nobody coming to dinner or staying with you then? No additional luxury foods delivered in non recyclable packaging? How, how is there no increase in your black bin bag?!!! I sound sarky but it's honestly a real question- I would like to know how to host multiple people and create no more waste. :)

And even if you have 1 bag, the same amount as in a normal week, the point of the thread is also that some of us wait twice as long so would have twice as much, in your case 2 bags. If your normal amount was 3 black bags per week, large family, lots of pets etc - you'd have 6 by the collection date and they would not fit in your bin.

TheignT · 29/12/2025 10:17

Tryingtokeepgoing · 29/12/2025 07:37

Surely the logic is just that if the collection is later than usual then there are more days rubbish to put in the bin, not that it’s an allowance for Christmas. So if your collection day is unaffected yous till have the normal number of days rubbish and don’t need any extra?

Exactly, my normal bin day is Thursday, last week was recycling collection so eleven day rubbish instead of seven. Black bin should be this Thursday but won't be till the 5th so four extra days plus we've had family staying so fingers e of us instead of two. Black bin should be fine but I've got an extra bag of recycling today.

TheignT · 29/12/2025 10:19

BringBackCatsEyes · 29/12/2025 10:11

I have barely any increase in my black (non-recyclable) bin.
The increase is in my dry recyclable - lots more cardboard and paper. I thought most people bought recyclable wrap these days.

I used recyclable but most presents weren't on recyclable.

Twirlyhockey · 29/12/2025 10:20

Also hat tip to the wormery and the excellent concept of checking one's bin privilege! I would love to have @blackberrybrandy for Xmas.

ManyPigeons · 29/12/2025 10:21

Just store recycling etc until the tip opens. Like everyone else does. The council offers a regular service not a ‘do everything for everyone for cheap’ service.

Twirlyhockey · 29/12/2025 10:24

I'd pay extra though to preserve normal collection! And then I could drip feed my stored recycling and bin waste over a few weeks. It's the double whammy of fewer collections AND more waste.

I have realised that what I want from this thread is insurrection and bin related revolution!!!!

Rise up, householders. You have nothing to lose but your stains.

milveycrohn · 29/12/2025 10:25

We have no extra bin allowance.
I have checked our council website, and those whose bins are normally collected Xmas Day, Boxing Day or New year's Day, have a different day allocated to them.
For everyone else, it is the usual collections; that is, the only bin collected every week is the 'food' bin (the council calls it the kitchen caddy...).
This is the only one I am paranoid about being put out promptly to avoid flies, foxes, etc.
Waste paper can be put out gradually over a few weeks if needed.
In my house the cans/bottles etc are usually washed before putting out. Something my DH finds strange, but again it helps to reduce flies and foxes, etc, as they are not collected every week.

ManyPigeons · 29/12/2025 10:27

Twirlyhockey · 29/12/2025 10:24

I'd pay extra though to preserve normal collection! And then I could drip feed my stored recycling and bin waste over a few weeks. It's the double whammy of fewer collections AND more waste.

I have realised that what I want from this thread is insurrection and bin related revolution!!!!

Rise up, householders. You have nothing to lose but your stains.

Yes I’m sure the bin men and waste centre workers don’t actually want Christmas off and would be thrilled to be made to work for an extra few quid an hour 🙄

Bjorkdidit · 29/12/2025 10:30

Why are people wasting so much food?

Why are people not saving gift bags to reuse?

Why aren't people peeling the sellotape off wrapping paper so most of it can be recycled?

Why aren’t people cutting cardboard down or squashing it to get more in the bin?

There's a solution to just about every reason people have given for their bins to be full before collection day so if yours are full that's what you need to look at instead of complaining about having too much rubbish.

We don't have food collection and our black bin is rarely more than 1/4 full.

Twirlyhockey · 29/12/2025 10:31

ManyPigeons · 29/12/2025 10:27

Yes I’m sure the bin men and waste centre workers don’t actually want Christmas off and would be thrilled to be made to work for an extra few quid an hour 🙄

Well, quite a few people are happy to work Xmas for double bubble. Nobody should be made to.

Twirlyhockey · 29/12/2025 10:32

And I'm obviously being light hearted, right.

CrotchetyQuaver · 29/12/2025 10:34

Our black bin and food waste was collected Saturday instead of Thursday, obviously more rubbish than normal due to wrapping paper and a last minute pre Christmas clear out, there was loads of availability at the tip yesterday so I booked a slot and took the excess sacks and cardboard down and got rid. Obviously if you haven't got access to a car that's difficult but it wasn't difficult!

nomas · 29/12/2025 10:35

Our usual collection day was Tues 23 Dec.

The council notified us by leaflet on Mon 22 Dec that that our collection day had been brought forward to Sat 20 Dec.

BringBackCatsEyes · 29/12/2025 10:36

Twirlyhockey · 29/12/2025 10:15

So you have nobody coming to dinner or staying with you then? No additional luxury foods delivered in non recyclable packaging? How, how is there no increase in your black bin bag?!!! I sound sarky but it's honestly a real question- I would like to know how to host multiple people and create no more waste. :)

And even if you have 1 bag, the same amount as in a normal week, the point of the thread is also that some of us wait twice as long so would have twice as much, in your case 2 bags. If your normal amount was 3 black bags per week, large family, lots of pets etc - you'd have 6 by the collection date and they would not fit in your bin.

We haven't hosted many people to be fair. I didn't say there was no increase, I said there was barely an increase. We are normally a household of 2 and my small wheelie bin is less than 1/2 full every fortnight - we produce maybe a carrier bag sized amount of black bin waste a week.
I don't have a large family and lots of pets, but also think per head we produce less waste than many people. But I fly long haul so am absolutely not being some sort of martyr about it.

ManyPigeons · 29/12/2025 10:36

Twirlyhockey · 29/12/2025 10:31

Well, quite a few people are happy to work Xmas for double bubble. Nobody should be made to.

They can’t offer a paid for service and not guarantee it, so people would be made to do it. Just like most Xmas workers are (journalists, retail workers, hospitality etc. many of who are not paid any extra).

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 29/12/2025 10:41

This thread is a real eye-opener! Some of the bin collection situations in this country are absolutely medieval 😱

Our council collects paper, cardboard, plastic, metal, glass, small electronics, food waste weekly; household waste every 3 weeks (and we have the smaller wheelie bins, maybe 180 litres?); garden waste every 3 week march - dec (big / normal size wheelie bin). Bin day is thursday so we were delayed by one whole day last week. I saw the recycling truck when I walked the dog on Boxing Day and the guys were very merry - I assume they were either getting paid double time, or had already been on the Baileys 😆