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'BTW I'm autistic' / 'For context, I have ADHD'

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easytoremember · 28/12/2025 20:21

Sorry. But I'm seeing these precursors on a lot of posts. Why? It's slightly grating. We're all complicated people living the crazy human experience, diagnosis or not.

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FuzzyWolf · 28/12/2025 20:43

They feel it’s as relevant and you clearly feel it isn’t. Given they are the one posting, I’d say they are the ones with the right to post and phrase as they wish.

Livelovelaughfuckoff · 28/12/2025 20:44

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Livelovelaughfuckoff · 28/12/2025 20:45

Given that everyone hates a “drip feed” it makes sense for a poster to give full context in the OP.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 28/12/2025 20:47

Delphinium20 · 28/12/2025 20:41

I see it so often now, in this context and others, that I’ve really questioned the validity of claims of autism and ADHD. When symptoms/behaviors/thought patterns attributed to “neurodivergence” (which is not a medical term, just a popular culture one) are described, they are so varied and diverse (not to mention conflicting and some are opposites) that I can’t see how autism and ADHD can be concrete and distinct diagnoses.

They are also unfalsifiable. “Neurodivergence” is unlike illnesses or medical conditions. If I go to doctor and say, “Test me if I have a broken bone or diabetes,” they can show if my bone is unbroken or that I don’t have diabetes. In other words, it’s incredibly possible to have a diagnosis of autism or ADHD with no biological marker. Anyone can claim it.

There is no biological marker for low intelligence either but it is also testable and scientifically exists.

rc22 · 28/12/2025 20:47

easytoremember · 28/12/2025 20:28

It just seems like a very new phenomenon, and I'm genuinely interested

Many adults are newly diagnosed due to increased awareness of neurodivergence in recent years.

easytoremember · 28/12/2025 20:50

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Yes, I'm just a simpleton who doesn't observe new trends and social phenomena.

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Livelovelaughfuckoff · 28/12/2025 20:51

Delphinium20 · 28/12/2025 20:41

I see it so often now, in this context and others, that I’ve really questioned the validity of claims of autism and ADHD. When symptoms/behaviors/thought patterns attributed to “neurodivergence” (which is not a medical term, just a popular culture one) are described, they are so varied and diverse (not to mention conflicting and some are opposites) that I can’t see how autism and ADHD can be concrete and distinct diagnoses.

They are also unfalsifiable. “Neurodivergence” is unlike illnesses or medical conditions. If I go to doctor and say, “Test me if I have a broken bone or diabetes,” they can show if my bone is unbroken or that I don’t have diabetes. In other words, it’s incredibly possible to have a diagnosis of autism or ADHD with no biological marker. Anyone can claim it.

Many illnesses have no biological marker and are diagnosed based on symptoms presented.

Livelovelaughfuckoff · 28/12/2025 20:53

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gogomomo2 · 28/12/2025 20:54

The problem is no two neurodivergent people are alike either. I have several friends with either official diagnosis or have self diagnosed themselves and none of them are like my dd who was diagnosed as a 2 year old and she is unlike my friends ds, my dsd is profoundly disabled and we can’t know how much is the autism.

never make assumptions but I do agree op its increased dramatically in the last 5-6 years, prior very few posters stated having neurodivergence

Overthebow · 28/12/2025 20:59

Pavementworrier · 28/12/2025 20:38

No it isn't a disability for everyone

In The Uk it is. Autism is legally recognised as a disability under the equality act. It’s also one of the criteria of diagnosis that the person is significantly affected by symptoms, if someone wasn’t significantly affected they wouldn’t be diagnosed.

EatYourDamnPie · 28/12/2025 21:00

Monty27 · 28/12/2025 20:38

@easytoremember I agree.
Some people are diagnosed, some people self diagnosed. Neurodivergence is the most recent "condition" I've heard.
Why do people feel the need to introduce themselves and add scientific labels as if apologetic, negative even about how their mind works? Like they're abnormal or something.
We're all on a spectrum in this crazy world. Not one us are the same.

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No. Just no.

whatsupwithmyhead · 28/12/2025 21:01

I have never seen it mentioned where it's not potentially in some way relevant.

There's a good number of people who have a recent late diagnosis, particularly women (for whom neurodivergence has been massively under-recognised historically), and they're making sense of the diagnosis and how it affects their lives and are probably more likely than the average person to be questioning stuff and how being ND does (or doesn't) relate to it. Sometimes people will be overthinking it but that's understandable really.

Fargo79 · 28/12/2025 21:05

You're just another one of those people who wants to invalidate and dismiss neurodivergence because you've erroneously interpreted an increase in diagnoses as "a trend". Yawn. I hope you got the attention you were so desperately craving with this deliberately provocative and bad faith OP.

arfidisarealthing · 28/12/2025 21:06

Pavementworrier · 28/12/2025 20:38

No it isn't a disability for everyone

yes it is. no matter if you perceive someone as "low functioning" or "high functioning" (which are made up terms for how much someone's autism is seen to inconvenience other people) it is always a disability. no matter the circumstances. it can have positives, like being good at pattern recognition. but that doesn't make it NOT a disability.

x2boys · 28/12/2025 21:07

Pavementworrier · 28/12/2025 20:38

No it isn't a disability for everyone

Well it is by definition as you have to be quite significantly impaired in the triad of impairments to get a diagnosis but it is a huge spectrum and some peoole are far more impaired than others and some peoole see their autism as a gift.

easytoremember · 28/12/2025 21:07

Livelovelaughfuckoff · 28/12/2025 20:45

Given that everyone hates a “drip feed” it makes sense for a poster to give full context in the OP.

Ok, well I'm a teacher. I've worked with genuinely autistic children for years - for the most part, it's been an absolute pleasure: the quirks, the genius, the personality! But I'm now getting more 'autistic' students who are just quiet, or incredibly intelligent, or socially awkward. They get 'labelled' and I don't see how it's helpful. I would have been labelled as autistic by the current standards. It wouldn't have served me.

ADHD. Yes, some children clearly have it - an absolute neurological inability to concentrate and focus. Most of those diagnosed, however, are (I suspect) children who have been on screens since birth and were't conversed with properly.

This is my experience.

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whatsupwithmyhead · 28/12/2025 21:09

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 28/12/2025 20:35

I have also noticed it a lot. Sometimes, I do understand people mentioning they are autistic if the thread is that they are concerned about having approached a situation differently to someone who is NT, or not understanding why someone may have reacted as they did. Sometimes people say they are dyslexic before they get accused of crap spelling. I can’t think off the top of my head of why an OP would need to mention they have ADHD- but maybe if they were looking to have their child assessed as it often runs in families?

SO many situations ADHD might be relevant!

How you prepare for an event or organise your life.
The kind of job you do
Parenting choices
Dealing with illness
Relationships with friends
How you react to criticism
Preferences for TV shows

...I could go on and on!

SweeetFannyAdams · 28/12/2025 21:10

easytoremember · 28/12/2025 21:07

Ok, well I'm a teacher. I've worked with genuinely autistic children for years - for the most part, it's been an absolute pleasure: the quirks, the genius, the personality! But I'm now getting more 'autistic' students who are just quiet, or incredibly intelligent, or socially awkward. They get 'labelled' and I don't see how it's helpful. I would have been labelled as autistic by the current standards. It wouldn't have served me.

ADHD. Yes, some children clearly have it - an absolute neurological inability to concentrate and focus. Most of those diagnosed, however, are (I suspect) children who have been on screens since birth and were't conversed with properly.

This is my experience.

BINGO!

It took a while but there it is.

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 28/12/2025 21:11

easytoremember · 28/12/2025 21:07

Ok, well I'm a teacher. I've worked with genuinely autistic children for years - for the most part, it's been an absolute pleasure: the quirks, the genius, the personality! But I'm now getting more 'autistic' students who are just quiet, or incredibly intelligent, or socially awkward. They get 'labelled' and I don't see how it's helpful. I would have been labelled as autistic by the current standards. It wouldn't have served me.

ADHD. Yes, some children clearly have it - an absolute neurological inability to concentrate and focus. Most of those diagnosed, however, are (I suspect) children who have been on screens since birth and were't conversed with properly.

This is my experience.

"The quirks, the genius, the personality"

What in the fuck are you on.

You think autism is just being a little quirky and the rest is too much screen time.

You have no idea.

And I doubt you're a teacher, and if you are then you're a shit one.

Hollowvoice · 28/12/2025 21:13

easytoremember · 28/12/2025 21:07

Ok, well I'm a teacher. I've worked with genuinely autistic children for years - for the most part, it's been an absolute pleasure: the quirks, the genius, the personality! But I'm now getting more 'autistic' students who are just quiet, or incredibly intelligent, or socially awkward. They get 'labelled' and I don't see how it's helpful. I would have been labelled as autistic by the current standards. It wouldn't have served me.

ADHD. Yes, some children clearly have it - an absolute neurological inability to concentrate and focus. Most of those diagnosed, however, are (I suspect) children who have been on screens since birth and were't conversed with properly.

This is my experience.

Ah yes of course. Neurodivergence is all down to bad parenting.
Thank you for enlightening us.

Fargo79 · 28/12/2025 21:13

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averychoc · 28/12/2025 21:14

Overthebow · 28/12/2025 20:37

Because autism is a disability, being a ‘complicated person’ as you put it is not.

This. It’s nothing to do with you if people want to disclose this information, you should question why you are bothered so much about other people

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 28/12/2025 21:14

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You're absolutely right 👏👏👏

I'll report too

user1471453601 · 28/12/2025 21:16

@easytoremember we (my adult child, their partner and i) went out for a meal just before xmas. Everything was fine, then child's partner suddenly got up and walked out of the restaurant. Strange?

No, they are autistic and the size of the menu felt overwhelming to them. They returned a few minutes later, and the meal was enjoyed by us all.

But without the knowledge that they were autistic, my opening paragraph would read like they were very rude.

so it is, I assume, with posters who declare they (or someone they are posting about) is Neuro diverse.

whatsupwithmyhead · 28/12/2025 21:18

easytoremember · 28/12/2025 21:07

Ok, well I'm a teacher. I've worked with genuinely autistic children for years - for the most part, it's been an absolute pleasure: the quirks, the genius, the personality! But I'm now getting more 'autistic' students who are just quiet, or incredibly intelligent, or socially awkward. They get 'labelled' and I don't see how it's helpful. I would have been labelled as autistic by the current standards. It wouldn't have served me.

ADHD. Yes, some children clearly have it - an absolute neurological inability to concentrate and focus. Most of those diagnosed, however, are (I suspect) children who have been on screens since birth and were't conversed with properly.

This is my experience.

At school my AuDHD DS is quiet, intelligent and socially awkward. At home when the mask is off he's spinning round and round on a chair rabbiting away endlessly to no-one in particular about his niche special interest. I can assure you he had plenty of conversation and little exposure to screens. Diagnosis has been so helpful for him.