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Scandal - Woman doing important job is well paid!

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ChocolateLemons · 27/12/2025 09:50

To be annoyed that the front page of the guardian is an 'expose' that a woman doing an important job and working long hours is well paid.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/dec/24/midwife-leading-nottingham-maternity-inquiry-charging-nhs-up-to-26000-a-month?trk=feed_main-feed-card_feed-article-content
Maybe I'm biased as the previous Ockendon report literally saved me and my child's life.
Yes midwives should be paid more in general. Yes NHS needs to take action on the reviews.
No - an extremely competent woman who listens to and values people's experiences, and is doing a really critical job should not be shamed for being well paid. The article is obviously scraping when they criticise her company for having an HR department 🙄 AIBU?

Midwife leading Nottingham maternity inquiry charging NHS up to £26,000 a month

Exclusive: Donna Ockenden paid highly for advice in relation to the biggest review of maternity failings in NHS history

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/dec/24/midwife-leading-nottingham-maternity-inquiry-charging-nhs-up-to-26000-a-month?trk=feed_main-feed-card_feed-article-content

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 27/12/2025 09:56

If it was just financial (and of course it’s not) the other side of the scale is how much were NHSE wasting through substandard care with consequences of birth injury and medical negligence. That probably doesn’t come cheap.

BuffaloCauliflower · 27/12/2025 10:01

Her pay is line with what you’d expect for an independent advisor of her standing. The uproar comes because pay is so shit in this country and so many people on the lower end that so many people just don’t know what some work costs

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 27/12/2025 10:03

But how much do men doing similar work get paid? That fairly important info is missing. If you want the best, you have to pay.

Danikm151 · 27/12/2025 10:04

A monthly salary equivalent to what some earn in a year is obscene. I say that for any job regardless of if it was a man or a woman.
reality is that many are woefully underpaid but it’s not going to change any time soon.

EnglishRain · 27/12/2025 10:07

Ha that’s cheaper than I was expecting.

I work for NHSE. A man working for the new hospital programme was on the phone to a recruiter a few months ago and said ‘my day rate here is £1k per day’ and let me tell you - having worked near this guy a few times he didn’t seem to know his arse from his elbow…

Portsmouthnappies · 27/12/2025 10:15

"Scandal - Woman doing important job is well paid! "
Exactly that, OP. Two key messages are, we value women's careers so little, we are horrified when one earns over minium wage, and Two, we value the safety/lives of pregnant women so little that any investigation should only cost 27 1/2p.

ElBandito · 27/12/2025 10:25

Perhaps the Guardian would like to let us know how much they think women and babies lives are actually worth?

InterestedDad37 · 27/12/2025 10:33

She's absolutely ripping off the NHS and lining her greedy pockets. And yes, I'd say the same for a man. I know someone who gets NHS managers doing team building crap, and earns a fortune for basically getting them to play Squid Games Lite. It's a complete and utter waste of your money.

thedramaQueen · 27/12/2025 10:41

I wouldn't have a problem with the pay if the recommendations are taken on board by the NHS and that they actually improve the system.

If improvements are not seen in an agreed timescale - there should be some kind of refund - a percentage of the profit that has been made for example. This I would suggest should apply to all private businesses that do business with the NHS or public sector in general. Sick of the public sector being ripped off by the private sector e.g., Michelle Mone, looks like we will never see any of that money she has been ordered to pay back!

ShesTheAlbatross · 27/12/2025 10:51

The NHS spends more on maternity negligence claims than it does on the maternity care itself. So I imagine this could be money very well spent.

(And of course that’s only looking at the financial aspect, not the more important life saving)

Bearbookagainandagain · 27/12/2025 10:51

26k/month is insane, it doesn't matter the gender, job or hours.

Seriestwo · 27/12/2025 11:58

She’s worth it.

AquaLeader · 27/12/2025 16:02

Paying £26,000 a month is utterly obscene when so many newly qualified midwives don’t even earn £26,000 a year.

She’s lining her pockets at everyone else’s expense.

Seriestwo · 27/12/2025 19:23

She’s not a newly qualified midwife and that’s just a fucking rude thing to say.

she has huge responsibility. Women’s pain and suffering is worth being taken seriously and that means paying an actual expert to unpick the horrific mess that has been allowed.

I genuinely would pay her double. Expertise costs money for a reason.

HappyFace2025 · 27/12/2025 19:26

Portsmouthnappies · 27/12/2025 10:15

"Scandal - Woman doing important job is well paid! "
Exactly that, OP. Two key messages are, we value women's careers so little, we are horrified when one earns over minium wage, and Two, we value the safety/lives of pregnant women so little that any investigation should only cost 27 1/2p.

Shame on the Guardian but why am I not surprised. I wonder what their (female) editor earns 🤔

EnglishRain · 28/12/2025 09:53

Your eyes would water if you knew how much we spent on contractors doing certain projects. Donna Ockendon is very mid range £ wise. I’d say mid to low cost actually.

Erin1975 · 28/12/2025 10:45

Bearbookagainandagain · 27/12/2025 10:51

26k/month is insane, it doesn't matter the gender, job or hours.

That's not her salary. She is a contractor charging £850 per day.

Comtesse · 28/12/2025 10:56

InterestedDad37 · 27/12/2025 10:33

She's absolutely ripping off the NHS and lining her greedy pockets. And yes, I'd say the same for a man. I know someone who gets NHS managers doing team building crap, and earns a fortune for basically getting them to play Squid Games Lite. It's a complete and utter waste of your money.

You are dead wrong. She is doing righteous work that will really save lives. What your mate does for team building exercises is completely irrelevant.

ManyPigeons · 28/12/2025 11:05

HappyFace2025 · 27/12/2025 19:26

Shame on the Guardian but why am I not surprised. I wonder what their (female) editor earns 🤔

Their editor makes around £600k annually.

Which I always find weird because as a deputy editor at another national paper I made less than £50k a year. The jump is crazy.

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