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Low contact Father wants Xmas Day call

22 replies

ChristmasMummy123 · 23/12/2025 17:53

TLDR: Low contact dad (never lived with child/ not present at birth) has seen child 9 times this year and 1 phone call. Dad wants a Christmas Day call. Me (mother) doesn't want him in touch on special day when he makes no effort through the year and the call will give me anxiety and it will be weird for child as they hardly know him. AIBU?

Ten years ago my ex dumped me when I told him I was pregnant as he didn't want another child. I tried very hard to have some sporadic contact when my child was young so I'd have photos etc of them. But he actively hated me and my child and made his feelings pretty clear. He visited 6 times a year because of duty. My child has never met their half-siblings or any family from his side. About two years ago my child asked repeatedly to meet one of his children, he kept saying yes, they are really busy but I'll try to fix it up. He didn't so we stopped asking.

In the last few years things haven't been so bad BUT earlier this year when I asked to discuss seeing his child more he said he was happy with how things were. Unfortunately he also restated he never wanted the child! 9 years on! He has been less toxic this year and we've all got on ok. He always sees the child with me ( never alone). He never makes arrangements in advance. It's ad hoc and slipped in between other things he has on. He's often late or has to rush away. He has seen our child 9 times this year. Last time we saw him (a month ago) he described us as: "relatives not family". I have strong suspicions he's autistic because what a strange thing to say.

Anyway, this week he texted and at the end of the message said maybe we can have a chat on Christmas Day. But he has only spoken to our child once on the phone this year. He just doesn't keep in touch with them at all outside of the visits. He never rings me either to see how they are doing. I still feel very panicky and upset when he is in touch because I'm frightened of what he's going to say. I have endured some awful things but am trying to move on so don't want to rehash that here.

I don't want him to intrude on our family day. Also it would be strange for my child who isn't used to their dad being in touch with them. I want to protect my child as they have been very hurt by him not turning up/ letting them down in the past. I have huge anxiety about having this man in touch on such a special day. I never want to tell him off or lecture him or explain how I feel as I don't want to be that person. I try to write really nice texts to him to be nice and encourage a nice relationship. I'm always bending over backwards to facilitate him. But I want to have a nice Christmas with my family. What should I do? He has a new girlfriend so I reckon they are probably spending it together and he wants to look good in front of her. Am I being unreasonable to avoid a Xmas Day call?

OP posts:
MumChp · 23/12/2025 17:54

Yes you are unresonable. It's not about you but your child.

Merrycrisis · 23/12/2025 17:57

No, I wouldn’t pander to this. It’s confusing for your son, he can’t just pick and choose when he wants to be a father. He’s made his feelings pretty clear. I’d ignore

Chocolatefudgecake66 · 23/12/2025 17:59

Ignore the first poster. You are quite within your rights to say "no it's not convenient as we are celebrating with my family". You need to protect your child and it seems to me that you are doing a very good job. Xx

SortYourselfOut · 23/12/2025 17:59

Just ignore him, I had years of this on Christmas day when my DD was little. I think you're right, just trying to look good.

ChronicallyMum · 23/12/2025 18:00

Perhaps ask your child, if they want to talk to their dad then don’t prevent it, just remind your child that sometimes Christmas Day is very busy and that it might not happen.

Vaxtable · 23/12/2025 18:01

MumChp · 23/12/2025 17:54

Yes you are unresonable. It's not about you but your child.

You doesn’t seem to be that bothered about contact

and why would they be seeing someone 9 times in a year, they are a stranger not a father

Op ignore this post, and I wouldn’t be bothered with contact either. Just ignore

ToKittyornottoKitty · 23/12/2025 18:01

You are unreasonable, it isn’t about you or what you want. And your comment about why you think he’s autistic is a bit shitty, being a crap dad doesn’t mean he’s autistic, plenty of neurodiverse people still have a strong sense of family and make great parents.

PluckyChancer · 23/12/2025 18:03

Ignore him.
Your son doesn’t really know him and he’s not put in nearly enough effort during the last 9 years.
He doesn’t get any special treatment just because it’s Christmas.

EsmeSusanOgg · 23/12/2025 18:04

I would suggest a different day over the festive period - Boxing Day perhaps. Where there is less pressure and your child is less likely to be upset/ overwhelmed.

AgnesMcDoo · 23/12/2025 18:06

YABU

your child is entitled to a relationship with their father

they are having regular contact and a call on Xmas is a reasonable request

somanychristmaslights · 23/12/2025 18:07

You think he’s autistic because of what he’s said?!? FFS, people need to stop labelling shitty men as autistic!!!

anyway, I would ask your child. It’s their decision, not yours.

MumChp · 23/12/2025 18:07

Chocolatefudgecake66 · 23/12/2025 17:59

Ignore the first poster. You are quite within your rights to say "no it's not convenient as we are celebrating with my family". You need to protect your child and it seems to me that you are doing a very good job. Xx

First poster was a child like OP's. Just saying.

Pinkieandthebraintakeovertheworld · 23/12/2025 18:10

Offer to trade video messages instead? Then you can quickly vet his message to your child first to make sure he doesn’t say anything horrendous.

Chocolatefudgecake66 · 23/12/2025 18:17

@MumChp I think the OP probably knows her ex better than you do and thus knows what's best for her child too. Your experience is just that - your experience. Your circumstances are no doubt completely different. You are quite within your rights to share your view/experience but not just to say " you are being unreasonable - it's not about you but your child". The OP knows what's best for her child. Just saying.

ChristmasMummy123 · 23/12/2025 18:19

Re the autistic comment. I was explaining his comment. He was stating the truth as he saw it. I don't think he meant to be offensive. He has lots of autistic traits but has never been tested as he doesn't "believe in it". I'm not being offensive to neuro diverse people here.

OP posts:
MumChp · 23/12/2025 18:31

Chocolatefudgecake66 · 23/12/2025 18:17

@MumChp I think the OP probably knows her ex better than you do and thus knows what's best for her child too. Your experience is just that - your experience. Your circumstances are no doubt completely different. You are quite within your rights to share your view/experience but not just to say " you are being unreasonable - it's not about you but your child". The OP knows what's best for her child. Just saying.

Some mums do. Not all mums do.

Chocolatefudgecake66 · 23/12/2025 18:49

Seems the OP falls into the "some mum's do" category.

Vaxtable · 23/12/2025 18:57

AgnesMcDoo · 23/12/2025 18:06

YABU

your child is entitled to a relationship with their father

they are having regular contact and a call on Xmas is a reasonable request

Since when has 9 times ina year been regular contact?

and what about the comment that he never wanted to see the child?

Hufflemuff · 23/12/2025 19:01

Sounds like he thinks he's doing you a favour? I just wouldnt respond and if he chases it up, still dont respond - then after the day has been and gone, just be like "oh sorry I didnt reply- ive been so busy buying DS his Christmas presents and celebrating with my family".

Endofyear · 23/12/2025 19:43

Nah, I'd tell him to jog on and enjoy your Christmas Day with your family. He's shown that he doesn't prioritise his child and he's a crap father. Your child can call him Boxing Day if they want to.

Lavenderosemary · 23/12/2025 20:01

Put the phone on silent. Or mute him. Have a nice day. They can talk to their hearts content when its a less busy time and you're not in the middle of your own plans.

SparklyGlitterballs · 23/12/2025 20:06

Nah. Tell him Christmas Day is a day for families to be close, not spent with relatives who are distant. Offer him a call on Boxing Day or another day that suits you.

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