Sky news tonight - trying to blame the police for the Bondi attack

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I couldn’t quite believe what I was watching. A 15 minute segment that forensically went through video footage of the attack and essentially said the police didn’t get there fast enough and didn’t fire enough shots at the gunmen. I’ve never seen anything like that before, and I’ve witnessed plenty of terror attack coverage in my lifetime. What the hell was that about?!

I don't know all the details so don't want to make any accusations or take any sides but I'm sure I read something about the gunman still firing after 90 minutes which I thought was a very long time. I'm not sure how accurate that is though

it was 6 minutes. Not 90.

Sky have run a piece tonight essentially breaking it down so I’d go watch that. You see what happened in incredible detail.

Oh wow, I didn't realise that. Goes to show how inaccurate stories spread.

Yes I agree with you

It’s just crazy. I’ve never ever seen a news program essentially lay into the police before. A 22 year old police officer has been shot in the head and lost his eye sight in one eye, he had only been an officer for 4 months. But for some reason sky think it’s appropriate to run this type of program!

Wasn't that one of the us school shootings? One of the local cops was sacked because he was right there and hid.

Christ isn't sad that I typed "one of"

I believe it was in Florida or Texas. The police just didn’t intervene in time.

Strange that that wasn’t covered in such detail.

Its been really appalling - all the misinformation about the police response. I hope that the young policeman in hospital don't see any of it.

Horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. Going through footage second by second trying to suggest the police were ineffective

The police have response time targets and rules of engagement for incidents like this. If it comes to pass that these weren't met or followed, then it's only right to question why, and whether some deaths might have been otherwise preventable.

Critical analysis is hardly blaming them for the attack.

When have you ever seen a news segment dissecting a terror attack minute by minute, including the movements of victims?

You knew fuck all, so why post speculatively ?

You "read something", so use your netiquette and look it up FFS.

Blimey there's some right fruit loons on here

It's called a Chat forum for a reason you know, the art of debating, the discussing of news. Clearly something beyond your capacity

I think that was the Texas Elementary School shooting where several police officers were too scared to confront the gunman, for over an hour. Resulting in more and more children being murdered (the gunman had barricaded himself and the children in a classroom). It was only when a Texas Ranger (I think?) arrived on the scene and stormed the classroom, alone, that the gunman was apprehended.

It was a shocking case of outright cowardice.

I’ve never seen anything like that before
Did you miss all the Manchester arena bombing reporting then?!

This is the reason i will NEVER apply for one of the three band 7 roles open to me (paramedic).

I think that was Uvalde. Armed officers outside the school for 77 minutes.

Yes, it was Ulvade. Have just read the Wiki page and it's both shocking and heart breaking.

Parents were handcuffed or tasered for trying to rescue their own children and police told them the reason the officers hadn't dealt with the gunman was because they 'were having to deal with the parents' (ignoring the fact the police had been busy doing fuck all long before the parents arrived on the scene).

It's a sickening read.

@echt

Not sure why you'd talk to a poster like that. Totally unnecessary.

I think its worth remembering with any incidents of this nature, that these incidents are exceedingly rate (even US high school shootings are a rare to repeat in the same area), and they historically are followed by a high turnover of staff in the responding emergency services. After the London bombings alot of London Ambulance Service paramedics left, either leaving the profession completely or moving out of london to rural ambulance services. Therefore the chances of many of the staff involved at any level having dealt with anything of a similar nature/ magnitude outside of training is rare. These responders are only human.

I think this is the report here.

Terror on camera: Pieceing together the full story of the Bondi attack | News UK Video News | Sky News

I can't see anything wrong with it, if it's this report of course.

Every mass shooting in the western nations.

I follow a lot of US news. For the Uvalde shooting there was a televised Texas senate hearing. For Kyle Rittenhouse there was a televised trial. There were films made about Columbine.

Yes, Uvalde was totally shocking. And the parents of the 19 dead only got a payout from the county of $2 million total. But they are going after other departments and officers too.

The cops stood in the school corridor armed to the hilt, waiting for ballistic shields, while the shooting carried on. They were even sanitising their hands while the shooting went on. And then they said they needed a key, when in actual fact the class door was not even locked.

And this in Texas. The state with more good guys with guns than any other.

But yeah, thoughts and prayers rather than any sort of gun control.

Compare that with Australia. A terrible terror attack, and within days new gun laws are being put forward. A gun buy back announced today, similar to the Port Arthur outrage.

Something has to be blamed other than the Muslim faith's problem with extremism 🤫

The report did not blame the police. It remarked that it took 6 minutes for the armed cops to get to the scene from their police station 400 meters away.

The report was just mapping the area, describing the timeline, and showing witness statements.

There was also mention of 2 unarmed cops being on the scene from close to the start, but they were unarmed. Traffic or parking I think.

I saw the BBC news a couple of nights ago and an eye witness was criticising 2 unarmed police officers for hiding behind a car. I don't know what she wanted them to do - it would have been suicidal to approach without any protection.

It absolutely wasn’t just that.

It dissected minute by minute footage of the incident.