The rise of the trend of GLP-1 and the pressure it brings?

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First of all I just want to say I have nothing against the choice people make for the injections at all, I think they’re great and they obviously work for people who need them! I totally get why someone would want to take it, and it really is transforming lives.

But I worry about the pressure this is bringing so the it. I’m a size 14 and pretty normal. At the moment I don’t have trouble buying clothes or getting stuff to fit. My BMI is about 26 which yes is higher than the recommended but not massively so.

So many people I know are on this drug! Honestly, in my normal every day life, I know of at least 15 people who are taking it. It’s working brilliantly and the results are fantastic they’re happy and it’s great, I love seeing how their confidence has turned on a sixpence. Some of the women were larger than me some were not that much larger than me or the same size.

I’m not sure if my experience is a reflection of what’s going on country wide or not. But AIBU to worry about the knock on effect this will have moving forward. I worry that a size 14 will soon become almost obsolete in the shops because people are no longer requiring larger sizes, I worry about the knock on pressure this will bring to those of us who can’t afford to take it or simply don’t want to or can’t take it. I worry about it becoming a culture for people of my daughter’s age and what it means for their confidence in future.

I’m just interested to see if I’m just being paranoid or if this is something other people worry about. There’s always been a massive pressure on women in particular with their size and appearance but this is the first time I’ve ever really felt it so extreme!

Probably better to be thinner and very unhealthy rather than obese and very unhealthy if those are the only two options you can conceive of. It seems unlikely that someone who was obese but healthy would suddenly decide to eat only mars bars on account of the fact they were now slim. But definitely important to flag up this risk.

I was a 20/22! At the beginning of last year.. the cost to the NHS to look after me was as huge as I was I

I haven’t been to the GP since September 24 since starting the drug in April 24 and only then to check it was ok to come off the shed loads of drugs I would’ve been on if I had not taken this unbelievably fantastic drug at my own expense.

it’s a complete no brainer. I no longer take blood pressure medicine, statins for my cholesterol, three monthly steroid injections into my knees for weight related Osteo arthritis, multiple almost monthly visits for the GP for various inflammatory issues Because now as a size 8, I do not have these issues and have not had them for over a year

@HereforonedayonlytoavoidStrangerThingsspoilers you’re defending opinions that you have said that you don’t even hold?

Cheating - who and how? Weight loss for health is not a competition, there are no winners or losers.

Side effects are too risky - no, the decision from the MHRA was that the benefits to health for those that meet the criteria outweigh the possible risks of side effects. That’s based on clinical evidence.

Not enough is known about the long term impact - this is true for any recent medication. WLI are no different, there is no evidence or argument that they are more worrisome than any other medication. They are not brand new. They have been through all the necessary trials, and continue to be studied. If you accept this argument then no new medication would be worth risking as we can never know the long term impacts in advance.

etc etc.

I don’t think it’s defensive or aggressive to point these things out, nor do I think that any of those points are false assertions.

That’s just an odd thing to write, it is very clear the people triggered by weight loss injections are not the people using them, why on earth would you they be, it is very clear the people triggered are those not able to access them. We see repeated threads like this, with randoms slithering in to give their disapproval. Why would anyone on them, give a shit. 😂

You are worried that others might become a size 14?

Exactly.

I had a friend who died of ED. Does that qualify me to give a shit about movements within society relating to body image @lemonts?

I hate the fact that overweight women are targeted and ridiculed for their weight; I find it one of the lowest aspects of modern society. But it also matters to me that healthy weight is recognised as such and safeguarded as acceptable.

Oh ffs 🤦🏻‍♀️

I think some serious health concerns will be revealed in the next year so I dont think it will continue being used so much.

Thin, slim, fit has always been seen as attractive and successful. Envy inducing even, look at the reactions on this thread, as proof of that.

Obese was never ever seen as this, no matter how much anyone wants to buy into the body positivity movement. It simply was never the case. So it’s not returned, it’s always been thus. All that’s happened is being slim is becoming the norm not the exception.

and boy does that cause some people real issues.

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For heaven's sake, calm down – all I did was list the most commonly cited opinions! You're directing your wrath at the wrong poster.

In the next year? That’s a very specific prediction. Where’s that information coming from?

@HereforonedayonlytoavoidStrangerThingsspoilersgenuinely confused as to where the wrath is in my post. Or how it appears to not be calm?

Wishful thinking, wants it to go away. If they’ve not found anything in the last 40 years then nothing is coming, Nostradamus there is way off.

If you have issues with trauma related to disordered eating I would suggest that you stay away from threads like this as it seems you find then triggering (and I am using that term in the trauma related sense).

Hopefully it'll alleviate your concerns a bit if I point out that when someone is obese, this 'incentive' has clearly failed? Also people can consume nothing but Mars bars without WLIs if they so choose. So it's not immediately obvious why this only becomes a risk worth mentioning once they take a medication that puts some people who take it off chocolate entirely.

Don’t worry op not being able to buy clothes us previous fatties shall sell our size 14’s on vinted as we no longer need them

Celebrating health is a good thing. Body positivity has gone too far. We shouldn’t be celebrating people being morbidly obese. Yes we can have healthy bodies that aren’t stick thin but we need to move away from the idea that morbidly obese is anything but unhealthy.

There isn't any wrath or anger that I can see but it appears calm correcting ofmisinformation is consider angry and evidence of being 'triggered'

The best solution would be for everyone to mind their own business. As an WLI taker with a normal BMI, I certainly have no interest in anyone celebrating my new (somewhat) thinness.

Well that is going off topic a bit, but since you have, I'm not sure that's entirely accurate.

The Tang dynasty, Europe before the Industrial revolution and Persia historically idolised overweight bodies and even today in places like Mauritania it is seen as attractive. It has more to do with achievability than innate human appeal.

So your point about a slimmer society generally is interesting in terms of what effect that may have on tastes.

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Which misinformation was that that was calmly corrected?

There is a lot of misinterpretation of what people are actually saying going on.

I have opinions. As do you it would seem.

WLI are definitely revolutionary in terms of the effect they have on morbidly/obese people being able to lose weight they've previously struggled to lose. And that's obviously great in terms of less pressure on the NHS etc.

The only small bit that confuses me (especially after reading this thread) is that the intended use is for those who are clinically obese in order to help them get done to a healthy body weight/BMI. And many many people on this thread have said those people who are "just" overweight etc don't need them. Which being to me to my question if if that's the general consensus on proper use, then why do people continue with maintenance dosing? I mean if you've lost the weight and are no longer obese then are you not now one of the people who everyone has clearly said does not need them? Also if it's changed your eating habit to be better then surely you just continue that, without the meds?

Beciae if you reach a healthy weight and continue taking them to maintenance then hypothetically could you not argue that if you're allowed to do that a healthy BMI then others should be able to also? I mean you can't say at that point it's only for obese people if you're no longer obese?

One of the main positives Ive read from those on WLI is the fact for many it completely silences the food noise. So if this was maybe remarketed as not simply a weight loss drug but as a "food noise/weight CONTROL" medication then that would make sense to offer it long term AND offer it to anyone who wants it (because I imagine there are people who are not obese who still experience food noise and would like a better way to control it?) 🤔

It's one thing to help people lose weight but playing devil's advocate what if it was also used to prevent people from getting obese in the first place?