To think housing in this country is fundamentally broken?

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Whether you rent privately, rent socially or own, it feels like the system isn’t really working for anyone.

• Rents are high and insecure
• Buying is out of reach for many
• Social housing is under strain
• Landlords and tenants feel pitted against each other
• Local authorities seem overwhelmed

It often feels like people are arguing with each other instead of addressing the fact that the whole structure is failing.

AIBU to think this goes beyond individual choices and points to a system-wide problem?

Do you have proof for that last statement? Your claim that there is a housing shortage because of people claiming housing benefit seems very bold.

The issue isn't if you have a partner but if you expect the tax payer to bail you out thus adding to the housing crisis.

Again, post proof to back up your claim that couples living apart is causing the housing crisis.
I will wait.

Misogyny alert

It's thought to contribute around 20% - not the biggest factor, but significant nonetheless.

Proof?

Define the problem before trying to solve it. You don't get many men holding the baby, do you (androgyny alert).

If someone splits and pays for their new home they are not adding to the housing crisis.

If someone splits and expects social housing they are adding to the housing crisis.

I do know men living alone in a 2 bed council flat/house because they have their kids stay every so often (and in some cases, half the time).

So a woman escaping domestic abuse is adding to the housing crisis if the council houses her?
You really hate women, don't you. That is so fucking sad.

Many issues are causing the housing crisis.

immigration
right to buy
lack of social housing
more single households
people living longer
second homes
airb&b
lack of housing policy
poor planning regs making it uneconomical for builders to build
Soaring cost of building materials and lack of skilled tradies
NIMBYs
ppor property tax policies
mortgage deregulation raising the amounts people can borrow
Intergenerational inequality.

the list is never ending. Couples living apart where in the past they would have lived together is one of many reasons as to why we have a housing shortage, yes.

Counterproof?

Honestly, there are loads of academic and government papers. There's also common sense.

You mustn't take this personally. If you want to solve the housing crisis, you have to first define the problem. Divorce isn't the biggest factor, but it is meaningful.

That is an example of adding to the housing crisis.

To be clear, if you pay your own way you do not add to the housing crisis. This means no benefits including housing, no social housing and no council house.

I don't agree with that. A split takes up two house, regardless of who pays for them.

ETA, it might impact the affordability of appropriate housing.

Absolutely. And you have the patience of a saint!

In some cases, a couple split and move from a one bed place into.... two separate one bed places. I am not sure how that is adding to the housing crisis.

If general divorce (or whatever you want to call it) might account for around 20% of housing demands, those escaping domestic abuse will be an extremely small factor.

If the government isn’t paying for 2 properties it has more funding to invest in building more socislmhousing (shame they have no real inclination to do this).

You don't think someone can spend their own money housing themselves?

One household into two?

What do you mean?
If a couple lives in a one bedroom flat together, and then split up.... what is wrong with them living in a one bed flat each? You make no sense.

I used to live in a one bed flat with an ex. We split up. He stayed in the flat (he was there before me anyway) and I found a one bed flat that I lived in alone.
If that is somehow doing housing wrong, then you will need to spell it out to me how.

There's housebuilding going on everywhere!

They used to live in one house, and now they live in two.

I lived in a flat with an ex. We split up. We both then lived in our own 1 bed flats. How is that wrong, and how is that contributing the housing crisis?

Regardless of who pays, they're still taking up two homes compared with a couple who stay together taking one home. That IS adding to the housing shortage crisis.