Should I write to my MP about this?

[BeGladTealDog]

So after watching this, not only am I aghast, but am I being reasonable to write to my MP to request why this information being kept secret. If there is nothing to hide then why not just publish the data? Reasonable or unreasonable?

Do you have a reliable source for that?

From what I've read the lower viral load that a vaccinated person has means they are less likely to transmit the virus.

How willing are you to bet your scientific awareness against somebodies life ?

For me, it's "not very", but we are all individuals.

Was never even tested against transmission. From the horses mouth:

I literally have not a clue what you are on about. Surely if person A is vaccinated then then person A is given a good deal of protection from C-19. So what difference does it make to person A whether person B is vaccinated or not? Unless you are saying that person A's vaccine is somehow not effective?

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Haha, how did that work out with Covid? Still around now and still being caught multiple times I hear.

Once again, the vaccine never stopped transmission. I'm not sure what part of this you can't understand?

Write to your mp all you want. They’ll dismiss you as they should. I don’t care why they don’t share the info - I imagine because pulling it all together with such a massive data set would be loads of work and the nhs has better things to do. Tens of millions have had the vaccine and hardly any additional deaths (vs many many additional deaths from covid). That’s all the data anyone needs.

Data enables informed choice to be made.

Yeah, if (in this case), you are a trained epedemiologist with very good statistics skills and are used to handling enormous data sets and filtering out confounding variables, then the data in question may be useful to you. I'm going to hazard a guess that, given they are getting wound up over YouTube videos, that does not describe the OP.

If this data were released all that would happen is the vast, vast majority of people wouldn't even know where to begin with analysing it, but you'd have plenty of cranks on YouTube claiming that they had thoroughly digested it and are now revealing to you the SHOCKING TRUTH the government tried to COVER UP, and the OP would be getting upset at that instead. So what's the point?

Maybe I just like pretty pictures ?

I guess so, because that is all it is. A pretty picture. Has no basis in reality for a fast mutating, airborne, respiratory pathogen that people catch time and time again.

A scientific paper please. One company saying over thing is not proof

No one was held down and given the vaccine. We made our own choices. As we do with all vaccines.

You do realise that was Pfizer saying that don't you?

Which type of scientific paper would you prefer? A paper funded by industry? One published in a popular journal that is funded by industry? A peer reviewed paper that has been peer reviewed by scientists funded by industry. A paper that initially said one thing (the wrong thing), but was then changed, watered down or withdrawn after pressure from the industry? Or an independently funded paper saying the wrong thing that has perhaps been debunked by the industry, and likely put together by people labeled by industry as a rabid bunch of anti-vaxxers?

Do all vaccines come with a propaganda campaign attached, where if you even ask reasonable questions (e.g. about long term safety), you are shouted down, labeled a tin foil hater, selfish, granny killer, should be denied hospital treatment etc.

People were practically forced to take it to keep their jobs. Think air crew, people who travel with work, care workers, and very nearly all NHS frontline staff. In the US and all public workers lost their jobs if they didn't get it.

But no not forced, just that you'd probably loose your job, your career and possibly unable to pay your rent or mortgage, perhaps leaving you homeless if you didn't take it. But selfish decisions have consequences right?

Not like we ever needed the 40,000 care workers who got fired for refusing the vaccine in England was it?

propaganda lol

Because sometimes data is clear to experts and yet anyone can make a YouTube video.

And data isn't always clear e.g one kind might look more effective even if it isn't always the case and there are other things to consider like costs and commercial sensitivities.

I’m all for transparency and in an ideal world the data would be made available.

Hiwever we all know that we’re living through an age where the truth is increasingly unimportant. All that matters is that someone can talk convincingly, even if objective seems to suggest opposing facts are true. Just look at Trump. The man wouldn’t acknowledge the truth even if it was jammed up his arse with a hot poker. And his batshit supporters believe him, even when there is clear and unbiased evidence that proves he’s lying. No one cares.

And that attitude extends beyond the orange man-baby. It’s everywhere. People have become much more tribal, with less willingness to acknowledge that things aren’t always binary.

There are so many charlatans out there who either a) have an agenda or b) are chasing £££££ by promoting controversial opinions about shite on YouTube.

Releasing sensitive data that would probably be too in-depth for the average man on the street to fully analyse means crackpots will be able to manipulate the data to suit their rhetoric. Even if it’s not true. If you’re not a qualified epidemiologist, it’s very easy to misunderstand what the data is showing - or miss the wider context - especially when you have a self-proclaimed expert misdirecting the analysis.

And what that means in practice is that people will make life decisions based on these nonsensical opinions. And this will go on to have real life consequences. Just look at the rise in measles because of the fraudulent “research” Dr Andrew bloody Wakefield published.

People don’t want the truth. They just want to be proven right. There’s some of that going on here on this thread already. Some PP have clearly made up their mind without even seeing clinical data.

FWIW, I had a reaction to the COVID jab and had to be treated in hospital for a blood clot. Every medication has potential side effects. Even your bog-standard flu vaccination. If data is going to be released it’s imperative that a fair, objective, and knowledgeable analysis is done, but I have little faith that the people clamouring for the data are interested in doing that.