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To say this is very interesting about covid mrna vaccines?

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user568795 · 11/12/2025 23:42

They potentially 'turbo charge' immunotherapy cancer treatments

https://www.bmj.com/content/391/bmj.r2245

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Simonjt · 12/12/2025 06:00

The TB vaccine is also used to treat some bladder cancers.

XWKD · 12/12/2025 06:03

One of the first covid vaccines was the result of research into cancer therapy. What's interesting here is that the vaccines were designed to target something that was unrelated.

user568795 · 12/12/2025 09:15

@XWKD Yes, agree.

I was also interested in the large scale French study.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/mrna-covid-vaccines-tied-drop-death-rate-4-years

I'm just completely confounded by the number of people that seem determined to ignore the evidence that these vaccines are not only safe, but potentially beneficial, including the US government.

mRNA COVID vaccines tied to drop in death rate for 4 years

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/mrna-covid-vaccines-tied-drop-death-rate-4-years

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Geranium879 · 12/12/2025 09:16

Very interesting - thanks for sharing

PegDope · 12/12/2025 09:17

Correlation ≠ Causation

Balab · 12/12/2025 09:19

DM started immunotherapy for cancer in late 2020, since then has had all the Covid vaccines that category 1 vulnerable people got - so absolutely loads of vaccines. The immunotherapy (for stage 4 metastases from bc to bone) has managed to keep her alive for 5 years so far.

Thepeopleversuswork · 12/12/2025 09:20

Fascinating. The regulatory environment is starting to be infected with vaccine skeptic groupthink in the RFK era so its great that there is a mounting body of evidence to back the benefits of mRNA.

user568795 · 12/12/2025 09:24

PegDope · 12/12/2025 09:17

Correlation ≠ Causation

Um, yes? And I suspect the researchers conducting these studies understand that. Which is why they state upfront that it's observational and randomised controlled studies are needed.

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Sweetiedarling7 · 12/12/2025 09:30

Wow! Thanks for posting this.
I had immunotherapy throughout 2019-2020.
Now trying to think when I had my first covid vaccination.

CuriousKangaroo · 12/12/2025 09:58

PegDope · 12/12/2025 09:17

Correlation ≠ Causation

It is anti-vaxxers who need to be reminded of this, not actual scientists.

user568795 · 12/12/2025 16:10

Sweetiedarling7 · 12/12/2025 09:30

Wow! Thanks for posting this.
I had immunotherapy throughout 2019-2020.
Now trying to think when I had my first covid vaccination.

Hope you're doing well @Sweetiedarling7

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Sweetiedarling7 · 12/12/2025 20:05

user568795 · 12/12/2025 16:10

Hope you're doing well @Sweetiedarling7

I am thanks. Well so far so good anyway.
We may have had a shitshow going on in our government at the time but thank fuck we didn’t have Trump’s mate Robert Kennedy Jnr as health minister or all I would have been offered was bleach and vitamins.

APatternGrammar · 12/12/2025 20:45

PegDope · 12/12/2025 09:17

Correlation ≠ Causation

This is not, in fact, a genius rebuttal to everything. They don’t stop with the correlation, they look for the mechanism. The correlation is a potential signpost to be evaluated.

Oioiqueen · 12/12/2025 22:03

As I've just started immunotherapy and a covid jab two weeks ago I watch with interest.

CheeseIsMyIdol · 12/12/2025 22:19

Balab · 12/12/2025 09:19

DM started immunotherapy for cancer in late 2020, since then has had all the Covid vaccines that category 1 vulnerable people got - so absolutely loads of vaccines. The immunotherapy (for stage 4 metastases from bc to bone) has managed to keep her alive for 5 years so far.

My sister has been on immunotherapy since 2019 for metastatic breast cancer & of course had all the covid jabs, and she told me recently the radiologist no longer can detect liver and bone metastases. Coincidence? Who knows. She originally was given an extremely dire prognosis.

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