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Estate Agent Discrimination

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GoldfishQueen · 08/12/2025 21:01

First time poster here, forgive me for the long post.

We just found out a few days ago that our landlord wants to sell the house. DH and I have lived here for 3 years with our children, always paid rent on time, no issues. Prior to this we were renting another house for 4 years and always paid rent on time there with no issues.

As soon as we found out the LL wants to sell we decided to start looking for a new place rather than waiting here until a buyer is found and being hit with a section 21. We found a house that we absolutely loved. It has been on the market for almost 2 months and there were no other applicants when we applied. We sent the EA an email after viewing to confirm we were interested and they sent us a pre-reference application form, which we filled in. On the form it asked if we have any CCJs, court orders, bankruptcies etc, we answered no. It asked if we have adverse credit and DH answered yes on his form. This relates to 2 late payments from 4 years ago on an unsecured debt, however, subsequent payments were made on time and the debt was eventually paid off. He included this information as he felt it was important to be transparent. We both have excellent credit scores according to Equifax.

Fast forward to a few days later, the EA emails to say they and the LL have looked at our pre-reference checks and the LL is happy to go ahead, and to send them our IDs. We submitted our passports (DH is black British), I’m black but not British yet, though I have settled status and have never had a problem renting in the past, we were even able to buy a 1 bed apartment in the past with a mortgage without a problem. So anyway, I send off our IDs and suddenly the EA comes back and says that the LL has decided not to proceed due to the missed payments from years ago. I asked if they had done the referencing checks and she said they wouldn’t bother because we would fail. I asked her to speak to the LL again as we have always been great tenants, we are financially stable and our current and previous LLs are even able to provide excellent references. We even offered to pay several months’ rent upfront. I went on Experian and Equifax to check our credit score again and couldn’t find anything adverse other than this late payment from years ago on my husband’s profile, which is less of an issue now as it’s been years.

I asked the estate agent if we can view other houses that I have seen on their website and she said ‘don’t bother because you would fail referencing and we will not be setting up any viewings for you.’ I have recorded the calls with her today.

AIBU to think that she is possibly racist and that this is a form of discrimination? How can they say yes but withdraw the offer as soon as they see our IDs?

I’m so stressed about all of this.

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fruitbrewhaha · 08/12/2025 21:22

That’s hard. I’m thinking the estate agent met with at the viewing? But still put you forward?

I don’t know what you can do? I don’t know how you can prove discrimination. You can make a complaint about a EA. Shelter website is a good resource for anything re renting.

GoldfishQueen · 08/12/2025 21:49

No it was a different person that showed us around the house. I did ask to speak to him today but he’s away apparently.
Thank you so much for your input, it’s such a tough situation.

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Andromed1 · 08/12/2025 21:55

God, this is awful. Do you think it's racism? You have an extremely good credit history overall and sound like model tenants. If so, you might get some useful advice from Shelter or CAB, and it would be worth registering with other EAs who would hopefully help you find somewhere.

Leafywool · 08/12/2025 21:59

Honestly I believe it. I have an unusual name and people always assume I am not white, but I am as white and English as they come (my parents just decided to give me a random name!). Throughout the years I have struggled to book viewings for rental properties, then I’ve tried again using my very boring plain English middle name and have had a response straight away.

gogomomo2 · 08/12/2025 22:02

Those late payments are the issue, whilst you (and most people reading this) will think it could be racism, you can’t prove it because of those. If I were you I would write an email to the estate agent stating you still want the property and could you forward to landlord a request to accept you with less than perfect credit, they are only the agent so in theory they should do this (landlord may say no but worth a shot) if they refuse I don’t know how you address the racism, sorry

GoldfishQueen · 08/12/2025 22:14

Thank you for your input everyone. Just to add, I asked the EA what referencing company they use and she told me. Funnily enough, this is the exact same company our current LL had used when we applied for the house we’re in now 3 years ago and we passed the referencing checks then.

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Crazyclover · 08/12/2025 22:20

Its not the payments as they said that was fine, it smacks of racism and they will never admit it, I would go elsewhere and not give them your business nor money in future

HolidayHappy123 · 08/12/2025 22:20

Is it a big chain of estate agents? I suggest you make a subject access request and see what they’ve got on their file.

LifeOfAShowgirl13 · 08/12/2025 22:26

HolidayHappy123 · 08/12/2025 22:20

Is it a big chain of estate agents? I suggest you make a subject access request and see what they’ve got on their file.

Good idea and this can be done even if they are a small company. Whether they would respond transparently though is another matter.

GoldfishQueen · 08/12/2025 22:26

@HolidayHappy123 no, they’re a small independent company. I have been advised to make a subject access request so will do that tomorrow.

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MaggiesShadow · 08/12/2025 22:29

God, this is awful. My heart sank because it really does seem like it's racism but I have no idea if you'd get anywhere with a complaint about it?

I'm sorry, @GoldfishQueen .

GoldfishQueen · 08/12/2025 22:29

@Andromed1 I’m not sure what to call it at this point. They were very much aware of the historic late payments, we were upfront about this and that wasn’t an issue as they said the LL was happy to go ahead. The problem started when we sent our photo IDs.

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GoldfishQueen · 08/12/2025 22:37

MaggiesShadow · 08/12/2025 22:29

God, this is awful. My heart sank because it really does seem like it's racism but I have no idea if you'd get anywhere with a complaint about it?

I'm sorry, @GoldfishQueen .

Thank you. I really don’t want to believe that it could be racism but it makes no sense.

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Andromed1 · 08/12/2025 22:43

GoldfishQueen · 08/12/2025 22:29

@Andromed1 I’m not sure what to call it at this point. They were very much aware of the historic late payments, we were upfront about this and that wasn’t an issue as they said the LL was happy to go ahead. The problem started when we sent our photo IDs.

Doesn't look good, does it. I hope you get somewhere with your information request.

Bucketwee · 08/12/2025 22:53

I am a landlord and a since the renters rights bill a lot of insurances (especially bulk EA arranged agreements) won’t rent guarantee anyone with any adverse credit. The renters rights bill also makes it hard to evict the tenants that don’t pay. So whilst I agree the timing is very suspect with the IDs being sent - it may be that they can’t obtain the rent protection they would want. I’d be asking exactly why you wouldn’t pass credit checks to the EA’s - can you offer a guarantor?

There is always another path with these things, if they’re not helping you find it - i fear you might be right.

Wonkywalker · 08/12/2025 23:05

It may be down to "immigrationism" and fear on their part if they are a small agency and you don't live in a diverse area. Right to rent checks are a bit of a nightmare and your non-BC status may be the fear factor (fined if they get the checks wrong). I appreciate that any rejection is awful but agents will normally take the easy route and if they are going to be inundated with applicants they may prefer the couple with the perfect credit record and easy right to rent check.

Appreciate the checks are online and are easy (and you will have passed them previously ) but the checks, rather than nationality, can be a real deterrent to those unused to doing them.

personally I am not sure if I would do the SARequest as normally all the agents in a small area seem to know one another.

Have you got a letter from your current landlord saying you are great tenants ? That may help before they take up references snd presumably your landlord would be happy to help given they plan to sell.

Hope you get sorted soon.

slowbam · 08/12/2025 23:05

It’s the renters rights bill. They won’t be able to get insurance. Blame the government. Do you earn enough to take the tenancy in just your name? You might not qualify for insurance if not a British citizen either though.

GoldfishQueen · 08/12/2025 23:08

Bucketwee · 08/12/2025 22:53

I am a landlord and a since the renters rights bill a lot of insurances (especially bulk EA arranged agreements) won’t rent guarantee anyone with any adverse credit. The renters rights bill also makes it hard to evict the tenants that don’t pay. So whilst I agree the timing is very suspect with the IDs being sent - it may be that they can’t obtain the rent protection they would want. I’d be asking exactly why you wouldn’t pass credit checks to the EA’s - can you offer a guarantor?

There is always another path with these things, if they’re not helping you find it - i fear you might be right.

Edited

I understand completely, and we even offered a guarantor as well as several months’ rent upfront to reassure the LL, but the EA simply refused.

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OverlyFragrant · 08/12/2025 23:09

Another vote for the SAR.

GoldfishQueen · 10/12/2025 00:05

Leafywool · 08/12/2025 21:59

Honestly I believe it. I have an unusual name and people always assume I am not white, but I am as white and English as they come (my parents just decided to give me a random name!). Throughout the years I have struggled to book viewings for rental properties, then I’ve tried again using my very boring plain English middle name and have had a response straight away.

I’m not even shocked. So sad that this happens…

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GoldfishQueen · 10/12/2025 00:10

Wonkywalker · 08/12/2025 23:05

It may be down to "immigrationism" and fear on their part if they are a small agency and you don't live in a diverse area. Right to rent checks are a bit of a nightmare and your non-BC status may be the fear factor (fined if they get the checks wrong). I appreciate that any rejection is awful but agents will normally take the easy route and if they are going to be inundated with applicants they may prefer the couple with the perfect credit record and easy right to rent check.

Appreciate the checks are online and are easy (and you will have passed them previously ) but the checks, rather than nationality, can be a real deterrent to those unused to doing them.

personally I am not sure if I would do the SARequest as normally all the agents in a small area seem to know one another.

Have you got a letter from your current landlord saying you are great tenants ? That may help before they take up references snd presumably your landlord would be happy to help given they plan to sell.

Hope you get sorted soon.

Thank you so much.

Our current LL did write a letter to confirm we’re great tenants and he’s never had an issue with us but the EA didn’t ask for it.

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