AIBU in thinking that King Charles' passing will devastate Britain?

[monrymeadows73]

If you remember back when Queen Elizabeth II died, how upset most British people were and how it caused some social insecurity as many British people saw her as a sense of strength and a rock due to her continuity and longevity, but with her gone, they weren't sure how Britain would fare. Hence, the large crowds of mourners and a lot of upset.

King Charles III - though not as admired as Queen Elizabeth was - also has longevity and a sense of continuity in a different way: not as monarch since he's only been in the role for three years, but as a royal figure, i.e. he has been in the spotlight since the 1940s and conducting royal duties since the 1960s. When he dies, will Britain finally feel as though the older generation of royals - who for so long have provided reassurance and comfort to the British people - have gone?

Will this lead to a lot of soul-searching about where next Britain must go and perhaps cause social tensions due to the insecurity of identity? Who will the British look to to guide the nation from then on? Who will be their new rock?

KC3 has cancer. Most likely prostate, many men can live with that for a very long time. He has other stuff that's been going on for years I reckon, perhaps arthritis, gout etc. Not life threatening even if the fingers are swollen up and painful.

As my mother used to say, "the creaking door hangs longest".

Conversely, I loved Bowie even more for twice turning down honours ( A CBE and a knighthood) because he felt it was not what he had spent his life working for.

It's the rictus grin that always seems to accompany the graceless gesture, as if the curtseyer (very much doubt if that is even a word) knows that they are taking part in a mindless and debasing action

interested to see how William will sort things out
if Charlies snuffs it couldn't give a fig or his ‘queen ‘ gin soaked harpy

A new era of doing less.

Nests fully feathered and lined..the show must go on.

I think the public reaction will be different. I’m not really a royalist but I felt quite sad on the day the Queen died. It was the fact that she was never meant to be Queen but she’d stepped into the role and had been this pretty solid presence for as long as most of us could remember. She had this undefeatable sense of duty and always kept a calm presence no matter what madness her family kept delivering to her door.

I don’t feel the same way about Charles. He seems sort of nice enough but not all that effective.

I agree. There's so many things that the Royal family do in regards to childbearing that people on here would get crucified for yet turn a blind eye to the royal family doing.

Can you imagine someone posting they were leaving their kids for six months at home to go around the world (as the Queen did) or send their kids to boarding school at 8 (as Diana did with William and Harry) or leave their kids at home with nannies to do the bulk of the childcare as much as the Royal family do. They'd be torn to shreds yet the same people are probably fawning over Diana and everyone else as "hands on good mothers".

Absolutely not. Queen Liz yes I felt sad about it, not really sure why, been a constant so long I guess & from pretty much an ambivalent feeling to her & the royals in general, to as she aged feeling I liked her & she was good for the country.

I'd feel more of a bond to William I reckon.

The entire system of Monarchy leads to people like Andrew and Harry and Margaret. It states that the firstborn will inherit everything- all the money, acres of land, the Throne and the job of the rest of them is to 'support' them- by doing the boring stuff they dont want to do ( in Williams case everything) while they get more and more irrelevant, and act as human shields to protect the Monarchy at all costs. Yet they are surrounded by servants who see to their every whim, adults who have to curtsey and bow to children, people handing them Aldi selection boxes that get chucked away. They are groomed frombirth to not only know that they are not as important as their brother but far more important than everyone else. Of course they are going to be entitled, petulant and spoilt. In return they will rely on generous handouts for the rest of their lives so their lifestyle depends on them toeing the line. The Royals do this to their own children. No one else makes them. I doubt it will be any different for the Wales children. They are already being used as distraction techniques.

TBF I imagine the years of stripping down health and social care services, job insecurity and poverty has already done a good job of devastating the country. At this point a rich bloke we don't know dying is probably sad but not devastating.

Nah, most people couldn’t care less is the general consensus in my circles. When Willy and Cath get in it’ll be freshened up and I reckon a few good changes will be made to rid the whole institution of its dregs.

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I feel like people barely remeber that Charles is the king. He is still refered as prince by a lot of people and when someone says the King people go "who?".

The queen had been the only monarch majority of Britons had ever known. I hope him all the best, but it won't be anything like when the queen passed. And even then it wasn't all that was mentioned in in the op.

Britain is so diverse now, the bright white Royal family stand out a mile.

I am amazed in this day and age that people still fawn over them. All lined up ready to courtesy at this family who hoard wealth, don't pay taxes as we do and charge the NHS and schools ridiculous amounts of money to be on 'their' land. I appreciate they do some charity work, but imagine what better use the money that gets sucked up into supporting them could do.

@FancyNewt Most definitely the trope Hard working royals really ,visit places that have been cleaned and painted for their arrival for a couple of hours etc.
What cemented my opinion of them was the late Queen stumping up £12,000,000 in hush money.
She was as corrupt and complicit in silencing an abused woman .
They eat,sleep ,shit just like the rest of us.

Nope….. I’ll be fine 🤣

My mum always said that they gave stability to this country and stopped it descending into a fascist state, which I thought was a really good point.

Bullshit. If not for Wallis Simpson, we would have gone into WW2 with a Nazi sympathiser on the throne.

Did you see the second part of the Dimbleby programme yesterday? They apparently have to charge market rates by law, so why dont they pay corporation tax on any of their commercial interests? Im surprised Dimbleby didnt ask that. They ' voluntarily' pay tax but manage to write most of it off against expenses- which they clearly dont use to maintain their many properties. So much of the Crown Estate and the Duchy properties are in a state of disrepair. So what are they doing with that money? Any miniscule amount of money they raise for charities ( not already spent on new toilets and paint jobs for their visits) is dwarfed by the amount they take. They cost us more than the Sovereign Grant. They cost us millions in tax avoidance every year.

The tax avoidance figure is one I'd love to know.

Imagine if they had to follow the laws of the land like everyone else..

Oh wait, there's a picture of W&K and family to distract us. FML.

Eh ? What's that supposed to mean? That comment says more about you than anything else.

My family is white so?

Sorry op but I feel like you are in a very small minority here. I feel like you may be in a group of like minded people and as such have assumed the majority feel the same way as you.

To break down your post:

"how it caused some social insecurity as many British people saw her as a sense of strength and a rock due to her continuity and longevity" - I am not sure I saw any examples of "Social insecurity" sadness, absolutely, there was definitely sadness but social insecurity no.

"they weren't sure how Britain would fare" - WTF, who thought Britain would cease to operate with the Queen dead? Sorry this is bollocks

Charles dying will not lead to anything, it will lead to a far smaller funeral and far less mourning from the public. Ultimately the Queen was a focal point for the country but not one that was going to cause societal breakdown. Charles is not that person.

I support the monarchy, I am far from a republican but your post is rubbish.

Charles dying will not lead to anything,

Well, there will have to be the cost of changing banknotes and stamps.

If the presence of foreign dignitaries and other Heads of State around the world wasn't a factor, he could have a direct cremation and a remembrance service in one of the churches on the RF vast lands.

I doubt many would care really.