Did the anti-fluoride conspiracy go fully mainstream?

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I was sat waiting in a dentist surgery waiting room recently, and noticed (couldn't have missed it) a sign that said "fluoride free zone" - can someone offer some insight on what is going on here please! I think it was part of a display of products to buy, there was a small shelf but the sign was obviously placed as though this was the main selling point of the items for sale (which appeared to be jars of honey)

Has something happened in the scientific world which confirmed those who distill water in their garages were right all along? Is opinion still divided but its now an acceptable position within dentistry? Or should I find another dentist (this wouldn't be easy)

Did you ask your dentist? Feels like the right place to start with that question

You're right, but I didn't want to appear naive

Fluoride is added only to water in some areas.

Nobody drinks distilled water. The filtered with Reverse Osmosis water is then re- mineralised with a special.cartridge without fluoride

Fluoride you have in most toothpastes

Fluoride is naturally occurring in most of the UK, especially in areas that are supplied from boreholes rather than reservoirs.

If they were jars of honey, maybe it was a joke?

I think some people with particular sensitivities have to use it.

My mum had to switch to a fluoride free toothpaste which having radiotherapy near her mouth for Non-Hodgkinsons Lymphoma.

I stupidly used fluoride free toothpaste and bottle mineral water for my 3 kids from birth onwards. I stopped when DC2 had to have four baby tooth removed due to decay at 6yo (and you can be assured that i was also that annoying mum who was careful about sugar). Dentist told me to use fuoride toothpaste and also put a coating of something of top of all my kids tooths. Never again will i listen to some rubbish influencer! I cant believe i fell for that and damaged my kids tooth.

They sell honey in the dentist?

I think, but may be wrong, that you don't need fluoride toothpaste if your water company adds fluoride to tap water. Mine doesn't so I make sure to buy fluoride toothpaste.
Not sure about your question OP. I thought the message from dentists was that we need fluoride to protect our teeth.

From what I’m aware, there are proven negatives associated with child brain development and skeletal issues by children who are exposed to high fluoride. This can be because the combination of fluoride in tap water and children swallowing fluoride toothpaste/mouthwash etc actually ends up exceeding the recommended limit.

However, without good parental oversight about dental hygiene and diet, not having fluoride can mean some kids end up with really terrible dental issues. So it’s a difficult toss up for governments and water companies to make.

I’ve never used fluoride toothpaste and I’ve never needed a single intervention from my dentist, but my diet has always been good and my parents spent a lot of time teaching me to brush my teeth properly.

No you still need fluoride toothpaste as they work in different ways

fluoride in water is taken up into developing teeth but has not much effect on teeth that are in the mouth

fluoride in toothpaste helps to combat decay and heal early decay in teeth that have come through in the mouth but if it is not swallowed has no effect on developing teeth .

The high fluoride in these studies is nothing to do with toothpaste etc it’s where extremely high levels of fluoride appear naturally in the water eg in the Rift Valley , Colorado etc.

There is nowhere in the U.K. naturally or added where fluoride levels get anywhere near this.

Some people have to stop using toothpaste with Sls in it but it is critical that cancer patients, in particular , should be using high fluoride containing toothpastes.

It is doubly important that anyone having radiotherapy anywhere near their mouth has high fluoride toothpaste due both to the dry mouth associated with radiotherapy and the complications taking teeth out anywhere near where someone has had radiotherapy . https://www.mouthcancerfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/jh-patient-2022-leaflet.pdf

I'd report the dentist to the General Dental Council. There's no place in mainstream dentistry for that.

My DC has hypoplasia (minimal enamel) so we have to be super careful. I'm on a lot of Facebook groups about it and most parents on them are scared witless of flouride which is insane as our DC need it more than ever.

A lot do use toothpaste with Hydroxyapatite in it which studies have shown is effective at remineralising what enamel is there and protects the teeth.

We use a toothpaste that has both in it.

https://www.dwi.gov.uk/consumers/learn-more-about-your-water/fluoridation-of-drinking-water/

Are u in the UK?

Ah thank you 😊 I knew someone on here would know the proper answer. So we should all use fluoride toothpaste then. (Unless we're conspiracy theorists...)

Interesting. I have no idea how dental practices are regulated, I'll Google the General Dental Council

Yes

No fluoride added to water where we are, just checked

Dental practices in the U.K. are the most highly regulated in the world. The GDC is but one of the organisations involved in governance.

Putting a complaint in to the GDC will set in motion a series of events that may take years to resolve ,may result in the loss of a career or loss of life as many colleagues have committed suicide whilst under investigation .

It is an incredibly stressful process and one that is too often used inappropriately. Please reserve complaints to the GDC for serious breaches .

You are more likely to be sued ,as a dentist , in the U.K. than anywhere else in the world and the heavy hand of the GDC is universally feared in the profession. https://www.dentalprotection.org/uk/articles/urgent-reform-urged-as-dental-professionals-under-investigation-report-suicidal-thoughts-and-quitting-dentistry