What do you think of the Andrew Gold podcast?

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I was introduced to it by my brother . It's called Heretics, some of the guests seem deliberately controversial. Host seems to be louis theroux inspired. Does anyone else watch?

I don't agree with this. I think they both have an agenda and an approach they utilise to their advantage. LT's interviewees are generally people who are on the fringes of life, dealing with extreme circumstances that he approaches in the context of prolonged filming for a documentary. Andrew's guests are of an entirely different character, more media savvy and are sitting down for a swift interview. Of course there will be differences.

At the end of the day, Andrew does not have unlimited editing and other BBC resources, he has to cut to the chase, he is not making a documentary unlike LT.

Yes see above, he has to get to the point quickly. Honestly I think this is such nit picking. He has built up a very large and engaged audience from his own volition, standpoint and tenacity. He has no large network supporting him.

Massive overreach to say he is internally disengenious and inauthentic. Are you his therapist?

He is fairly milktoast if that's why you're listening!

OP I'm not sure what you mean by "deliberately controversial"

I had a phase of listening, I like to hear things that do not necessarily . chime with my world view but I got used to his style and found it quite mannered and artificial. I am getting a little jaded with podcasts in general and not listening to as many as I used to.

@Mentalhealthgym you might like Triggernometry

I'm not a big podcast person so I listen to that occasionally if I'm really interested in the guest or the topic

Giles Udy on communism was fascinating

@imabitjealousandembarassed I haven't listened to heretics but I've seen a few short clips. Obviously they select the highlights but from that I got the impression he was quite a good presenter.

I like the format where they let them speak. I think you sometimes hear more useful information if they are not too challenging.

Just that, people who have views considered to be extreme, or very strong views

I don't know what you like, but you could try Triggernometry, The Brink, Winston Marshall, Brendan O'Neil.

That's just controversial though. And the Overton window set by the mainstream media is done so to condition public opinion. Some really aren't controversial at all, many many people agree. To say "deliberately controversial" implies these guests are not sincere

No not at all.

Geoff Norcott is interesting-he’s right wing but broadly progressive socially-(can’t think of a better description) but has some much more extreme guests.

I occasionally listen to the podcast, in an effort to know thy enemy.

He's had some interesting guests but I do find him often leading them into anti-Islam statements - Islam seems to be his main topic of interest; and disparaging 'Lefties'.

He's said "I like Tommy" a number times to various guests - which says it all.

The other day he was talking to a woman who didn't believe in the moon landings! I switched off after that - so no idea what else she had to say. To be fair, he said he did believe.

If anyone has any recommendations for a better quality alternative with guests and discussion with a more right wing / self-confessedly "anti-woke" angle, would appreciate them.

I've been bingeing on Gold, Triggernometry and Winston Marshall to get out of my normal zone, but they are all beginning to sound the same: small boats, lefties, woke, immigration.

But for better quality I strongly recommend the highbrow 'GoodFellows' from the Hoover Institution

GoodFellows | Hoover Institution

I’m not sure it’s faux naivety, I think he just wants to give his guests the space to explain their views (usually to the point where they end up hoisted by their own petard)

I enjoy hearing different points of view without it being shut down or interrupted. The Ann Widdecombe interview was outstanding. I don’t align with many of her beliefs but I respect her for standing by them. I enjoyed the interview with Lubna from the apprentice and Dr Az Hakeem. These are bright people with lived and professional experience of the things we’re not supposed to talk about. I believe that true ignorance is shutting down people/ branding them as islamaphobic or transphobic before hearing what they have to say

No. Bigots of all kinds need to be left, not taken.
This is how they pretend they are on the side of women. Don't be fooled.

I quite like it when there's an interesting guest on.

Carol McGiffin not believing in the Moon Landings.
Gold didn't question her in depth enough about this.

Simply stated that he did believe.

Last night I listened to Winston Marshall's interview with Steven Gallant, the convicted murderer who confronted the Fishmongers Hall killer with a narwhal tusk

I'm not a fan of Marshall's interview style but Gallant's story was fascinating and a very good listen. During his 14 years in prison he had been determined to stay out of trouble and not to resort to violence, his usual response, and attended rehabilitation classes etc. Like many men in prison he did a lot of gym and weights and so was strong and fit - which he put to good use in helping take down Usman Khan. It was quite an extraordinary coincidence that on his day release he was presented with this 'opportunity' to redeem himself

Well worth a listen

That sounds interesting re the WM interview. I can't listen to much AG now as the Alan Partridge vibes and lack of critical thought / single-minded Matt Goodwin-like agenda are too much, but there was a very interesting one lately with a surviver of the grooming gangs. I hope she gets more airtime elsewhere as well.

That’s most of us out then. We are the bigots, in the eyes of the media gatekeepers and the institutions.

Do you have any heterodox opinions yourself? Or if you don’t, could you imagine yourself ever having them? How should opinions like yours be treated?

Dodgy.

I watched one where someone was STILL pushing the Dolphin Square paedophile ring story.

That's been long discredited.

The Katie Hopkins interview was good. She exposed herself as being absolutely unhinged. Julie Bindell was good. It depends on the guest a few are worth listening to others absolutely not! I do not want to spend an hour listening to some ex page 3 girls view on conspiracy theories thanks 🙄.

I heard that one - a former police officer?

It started off well as he was talking about London grooming gangs back in the 80s or so, and said it had nothing to do with Pakistani men, just men in general; and spoke about barges on canals that used to be moved into different boroughs so investigations would be stymied... or something along those lines. He went on to describe the most terrible crimes regarding the abuse of children in care. He sounded very convincing

But then started on Dolphin Square and Elm House - this made me wonder if he is a bit of a fantasist or at least an enhancer of the truth