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What’s happened to womankind????

22 replies

SheThinksShesAllThat · 03/12/2025 20:14

I’ve had two stressful days, like about to blow my top kinda days! I think the veins in my head were about to pop at some point.
I have a puppy, dog and child so a lot going on.

Today…. I’m just out minding my own business in a well known uk brand shop looking at household bits.

Two woman are next to me talking loud like they needed me to hear their conversation… I did and didn’t give a crap if your dog would chew through this toy and that toy.

when I walked off I heard them say ‘Smile’….

Im the type of person to call out stuff like this, and ask if they were talking to me.

It clearly was said to me!!!

I just walked off but can’t help but think what’s happening to people, why can’t we look after each other anymore?

Maybe an- Are you ok? Would have gone down a whole lot better than a patronising SMILE!

My natural instinct is to help when I’m out, but today I just wasn’t feeling my best and to be honest just wanted to spend the day at home crying !

OP posts:
Elsvieta · 03/12/2025 20:47

A stranger told you to smile, and it was a woman? Wow, I know annoying men who tell women to smile are everywhere, but I didn't think that there was any such thing as a woman who does it.

Are you totally certain one of the wasn't taking a picture of the other?

MidnightPatrol · 03/12/2025 20:48

What’s this got to do with ‘womankind’?

missmollygreen · 03/12/2025 21:14

Elsvieta · 03/12/2025 20:47

A stranger told you to smile, and it was a woman? Wow, I know annoying men who tell women to smile are everywhere, but I didn't think that there was any such thing as a woman who does it.

Are you totally certain one of the wasn't taking a picture of the other?

Are you joking?
Women are way more bitchy and judgemental of other women than men are!

Lmnop22 · 03/12/2025 21:17

I think you may have misinterpreted this exchange because of how you were feeling beforehand and being extra sensitive.

I don’t know why two women discussing dogs chewing through toys would want you to hear them nor why that conversation would elicit a “smile” comment..

Fends · 03/12/2025 21:19

I clicked YANBU because they sound rude but thinking about it, what has it to do with “womankind”?

Elsvieta · 03/12/2025 21:37

missmollygreen · 03/12/2025 21:14

Are you joking?
Women are way more bitchy and judgemental of other women than men are!

Maybe in some ways, but the telling women to smile thing always comes from men

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/12/2025 21:53

missmollygreen · 03/12/2025 21:14

Are you joking?
Women are way more bitchy and judgemental of other women than men are!

No they aren't. Misogyny isn't truth.

CandyCayne · 03/12/2025 21:57

No idea what this has to do with womankind?

You met a couple of idiots that's all.

I'm sure you must've met idiotic women in the past? If not, you've been very lucky.

JudgeBread · 03/12/2025 22:01

A woman bit my head off in a shop once because I was talking to my friend and was doing an impression of someone and she inexplicably decided it was about her (after listening in to our conversation) and tore into both of us.

Not saying that's what happened here but just saying, you were already in a bad mood, these women obviously annoyed you just by existing in your presence, is it possible you misunderstood or they were not in fact talking to, about, or even paying the slightest bit of attention to you?

mellongoose · 04/12/2025 06:34

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/12/2025 21:53

No they aren't. Misogyny isn't truth.

Twats can be either sex I find.

OP I’m sorry this happened to you. I think people are becoming less kind in general and more openly judgmental.

Where once people were polite, they then started to be rude from inside the safety of their cars (road rage). Then people became very rude on social media. Emboldened we see it creeping into real life.

It’s sad and says more about them than you.

ThisLittlePony · 04/12/2025 06:35

JudgeBread · 03/12/2025 22:01

A woman bit my head off in a shop once because I was talking to my friend and was doing an impression of someone and she inexplicably decided it was about her (after listening in to our conversation) and tore into both of us.

Not saying that's what happened here but just saying, you were already in a bad mood, these women obviously annoyed you just by existing in your presence, is it possible you misunderstood or they were not in fact talking to, about, or even paying the slightest bit of attention to you?

This, why shouldn’t they talk about what they want?

JH0404 · 04/12/2025 06:57

You have believed a conversation two strangers were having about products they were looking at in a shop was aimed at you because they were talking loudly, this strongly suggests they weren’t talking to you at all. I don’t think it’s likely they said this to you, you’ve heard a word and imagined it’s aimed at you disrespectfully. Are you spending a lot of time on your own?

curious79 · 04/12/2025 07:02

sounds like you were already in a grumpy mood, ready to pounce on anyone, and were probably giving the side eye to two women having a lovely time out together. Chill and stay away from human kind until you recover

EleanorReally · 04/12/2025 07:14

i found Everybody in the town on monday, in the shops i went into Bad Tempered, shop assistants just ignoring you -
i had to make an effort to be nice to a lady with a crying toddler, told i understood how she felt Grin

DallasMajor · 04/12/2025 07:17

Two woman are next to me talking loud like they needed me to hear their conversation

This tells me all I need to know- why did you think them talking was all about you?

CurlewKate · 04/12/2025 07:38

missmollygreen · 03/12/2025 21:14

Are you joking?
Women are way more bitchy and judgemental of other women than men are!

This really isn’t true. And even if it was, the sort of exchange the OP describes is so exclusively male behaviour that it was almost certainly some sort of misunderstanding. And “womankind”? Really?

SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 07:41

JudgeBread · 03/12/2025 22:01

A woman bit my head off in a shop once because I was talking to my friend and was doing an impression of someone and she inexplicably decided it was about her (after listening in to our conversation) and tore into both of us.

Not saying that's what happened here but just saying, you were already in a bad mood, these women obviously annoyed you just by existing in your presence, is it possible you misunderstood or they were not in fact talking to, about, or even paying the slightest bit of attention to you?

I get that. They were really annoying and in my space being loud, one woman was next to me and the other down a completely different isle, then both were next to me ( in front of me in-fact) all that is irrelevant to my original Post. Why can’t woman be kind to one another? I would never tell a stranger in a shop to smile.
I once asked a woman with a creaming baby if she was ok…. She clearly wasn’t but I wanted her to know it’s ok and she was doing great. But she walked off in a huff.
what’s happened? Happening?
People don’t speak to each other like humans anymore!

OP posts:
SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 16:27

ThisLittlePony · 04/12/2025 06:35

This, why shouldn’t they talk about what they want?

I’m not saying they should talk about what they want 🤣 read the post. It’s about reading the room and when I walk off telling me to smile. I know they were talking to me as I looked back down the aisle and me being fairly fiery I nearly said something but didn’t have the energy. My post is about why aren’t people kind to each other anymore?

OP posts:
CandyCaneKisses · 04/12/2025 16:30

I was really unwell recently and nipped out for some essentials. The handle on one side of my bag snapped and these two women burst out laughing like it was the funniest thing ever.

I thought they were cunts.

SheThinksShesAllThat · 04/12/2025 16:30

JH0404 · 04/12/2025 06:57

You have believed a conversation two strangers were having about products they were looking at in a shop was aimed at you because they were talking loudly, this strongly suggests they weren’t talking to you at all. I don’t think it’s likely they said this to you, you’ve heard a word and imagined it’s aimed at you disrespectfully. Are you spending a lot of time on your own?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

OP posts:
5128gap · 04/12/2025 17:13

missmollygreen · 03/12/2025 21:14

Are you joking?
Women are way more bitchy and judgemental of other women than men are!

You have clearly never had the misfortune to be present when a group of men are discussing women. I'm happy for you. But you're very much mistaken.

missmollygreen · 04/12/2025 20:23

Elsvieta · 03/12/2025 21:37

Maybe in some ways, but the telling women to smile thing always comes from men

Not always it seems

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