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Is this just normal for behaviour for pre teens and secondary school !

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Imnotready2030 · 28/11/2025 21:51

I have never been in this situation before and ny first time raising a pre teen 😩

AIBU that this is beyond normal behaviour.

DD has started secondary school so obviously this is her first term. Not to drip feed- she is autistic but very passive / stickler for the rules and has had issues with making friends in the past due to her being a “ goody too shoes “ etc
she made friend's straight away when starting the new school and found her self in a friendship group of 4 which was amazing ! I was aware from the very beginning that 1 of the girls was a more dominant character - there had been a few issues with in the social group mainly between 2 girls the dominant girl lets call her Anne and a second girl Lola.
DD seemed to be unaffected by this but included Anne being mean to Lola and then crying telling teachers the same story but the opposite way around.
things included threatening to beat Lola up after school but then crying and telling the adults Anne threatened to beat her up. This seemed to be between Lola and Anne.
DD had never shown any upset about Anne and I was oblivious anything was going on but then it turns out that that Anne has been lying to my DD continuously about things just every day constantly sometimes these lies are just random things like what she did at the weekend etc however other times they are about things other students and staff have said about DD.
She made up a story that a teacher had discussed with her a situation regarding DD and it caused a lot of upset - the school investigated it all came out the staff member had not done it.
other things include telling her other students have said they don’t like her - she is the only one not going to be invited to people’s birthday parties.
Telling her she is the only year 7 not on a whats app group and then saying when she asked to allow her to join that she was told no because none of them even know who she was or existed. ( there actually was not any class what’s app group)
the other girls have said that the only reason she is apart of the friendship group is because of her and to remember that if she doesn’t stay her friend she won’t have any friends at all.
Also just some really harsh comments like when the girls were discussing moving maths classes they were trying to work if they were in the lowest set and Anne said “ of course it’s the lowest set “ DD” is in our class.

DD seems to now picked up that she is lying and that’s a step forward and to not take what she says as gospel and is upset by the lying but does not understand the intention - so seemingly just accepts the lies because she is still convinced that she won’t have any friends if she backs away.

I feel like she is very manipulative and when DD did call her out about the staff situation she replied “ huh I didn’t say that to you, I wouldn’t have said that I am your best friend “ and left DD confused she 100 percent knows she did but then DD just said ok then and carried on as normal the next day.

is this normal behaviour from an 11/12 year old. Do I take step back or intervene ?

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Octavia64 · 28/11/2025 21:55

It’s not normal however it’s not uncommon.

not sure what your intervention would look like. Secondary schools don’t usually get involved in friendship issues and they certainly won’t care if Anne is lying about what she does at the weekend.

lying about more serious stuff obviously they will get involved with.

your DD could probably do with finding different friends. Is there a Sen hub or similar she could go to?

Imnotready2030 · 28/11/2025 21:57

Octavia64 · 28/11/2025 21:55

It’s not normal however it’s not uncommon.

not sure what your intervention would look like. Secondary schools don’t usually get involved in friendship issues and they certainly won’t care if Anne is lying about what she does at the weekend.

lying about more serious stuff obviously they will get involved with.

your DD could probably do with finding different friends. Is there a Sen hub or similar she could go to?

No obviously I don’t mean about her lying about what she does at the weekend.

I mean regarding the constant things she is saying to DD regarding what staff and others are saying about her.

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Ablondiebutagoody · 28/11/2025 22:04

Anne sounds like a nut job. Just ditch her and hang out with Lola.

Endofyear · 28/11/2025 22:12

It's bullying and unfortunately not uncommon. You need to help your daughter understand that this girl is not her friend - friends don't do and say cruel things to upset you. Can you encourage other friendships? Maybe invite some of the other girls over for pizza & movie nights or activities at the weekend? I would also encourage sports and hobbies outside of school to widen her friendship circle.

Cocoaone · 28/11/2025 22:18

Yes, DD had a group of friends like this in the first 2 years of secondary. One key player lying and playing others in the group off against each other.

She finally had enough when she realised the ‘Queen Bee’ was lying about being pregnant and finally told me all about it. It can be a brutal time - the fear of having no friends and no one to sit with is very real.
I would say that all you can do is model what good friendships are, build her confidence, explain about gaslighting behaviour and hope that she realises quickly that she deserves better friendships. It’s unlikely the school will be able to do much as it’s very much a ‘he said she said’ situation. My DD finally found a decent set of friends midway through year 9 and she’s much happier now.

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