Resentment at 100k

[Arseholeneighbours]

Theres a lot of vitriol spilt towards people being “high earners” at 100k and over. As net contributors, and most likely having made sacrifices, stresses and difficult life decisions, there’s many judgements about life choices , expectations and living within one’s means. What is the motivation to push forward in a career and to try and be as successful as one can if there’s no personal gain? It’s all well and good saying those with the broadest shoulders should take on the most - but to what end?

But why do you not think I’ve hit any barriers? As far as you’re concerned I’ve just been lucky all the way?
i also started this post based on what I perceive as another barrier

It’s a myth in the dreary hopeless pits of Labour far left, but for many of us this has been a reality. Opportunities exist.

Some people blame themselves so get on with solving the problems, overcoming obstacles

Others blame everyone else so spend their lives waiting around for others to fix it, e.g. the government

Such is life. But the happiest people fall into the first category.

Exactly. Many of us are ‘victims’ of some pretty heinous life events. Has that stopped us batting on? No.

For many of us we have used poor life experiences as a springboard.

The collective victimhood mentality is grossly undermining so many people, the glass will always be half empty even when it is over brimming. The grasping, and the blaming others and entitlement is a toxic combination.
Nothing is ever good enough.

I couldn’t say I would thrive in that mindset either.

You didn't read what I wrote. I didn't say people couldn't overcome barriers.

Luck plays it's part in every life.

But who are these people playing the victim that you speak of?
Because as far as i understand this thread is about how people earning 100k aren't getting enough incentive to earn more..
Which to me sounds like they expect help and support from others. Surely they just need to pull themselves up and power on then?

I don’t think anyone is denying an element of luck in life, but to simply put any success down to that seems ridiculous

I notice you did not mention the EU ?

I am not out of touch with this. Indeed, I am aware the office for national statistics have changed how they collect emigration data, and that has led in a big jump, because it was being under reported before.

Number of Britons leaving the UK higher than previously thought | Politics News | Sky News

Quote: "The number of British nationals who left the UK last year has risen from 77,000 to 257,000, according to revised immigration statistics.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has changed its methods for calculating immigration by using people's interaction with public authorities as opposed to surveys."

When you leave the UK, there are no forms to fill in. The forms are on the other side, Visas, work permits, residence permits. And they are not easy to get.

USA ? With Trump ? Erm.

And lets take Australia, that you mentioned.

Their perm migration program has been capped at 132,200 places for 2025-26. That will soon fill up, given that it is world wide,

Migration Program planning levels (homeaffairs.gov.au)

Asia ?

You mean places like HK ?

Hong Kong expat exodus opens doors for Chinese investment bankers - Expat News at ExpatsBlog.com

Not the best site sorry. HK stuff banned where I am.

Issues in the UK are small compared to elsewhere. Even Japan is having anti immigration protests, and they have some of the strictest policies on earth.

So yeah, I don't buy this exodus from the UK thing,

We earn £130k between us, we are very comfortable. We work hard for that but desk jobs, we’re not saving anyone’s life. We can afford to pay more tax and I’m glad that we are going to be doing so.

The research shows that the happiest people don't fall into either of the extremes you describe.

Gratitude for luck plus a sense of autonomy is best. You accept what you can't control, you work on what you can control and you express a little gratitude if it all comes together.

power through the responsibility, hours, sacrifice generally required at that salary level, for very little incremental gain aside from for the government?

And do you have children?

Time for this again, 'on a plate'

This government is not for the aspirational . One of my friends feels totally betrayed by Labour , although why she’s surprised I’ll never know , but Tony Blair pushed for everyone to go to university etc and now she thinks that’s so they could earn well and fund the socialist agenda . She’s looking
to reduce her hours before the fiscal drag impacts .

It is both, obviously.

It sounds like you've been lucky and you've worked. Now you earn over £100k and you've started a thread because your tax bill is marginally higher than you think it should be.

Are you happy? If yes, enjoy it. If no, change something that will make a real difference.

Can you put money in your pension to get below 100k? And get childcare?
There has to be a way, especially with London prices.

Seriously how can you not ‘buy’ the exodus idea when you don’t even live here ???

We retain many talented individuals but for how much longer? We can not afford to ‘rinse’ them or batter them with taxes for the virtue signalling of the left.

One of the driving factors of London being so successful is the concentration of extremely qualified and talented people. It’s very appealing to companies.

I was describing an internal vs external locus of control

The internal LOC, first category, is exactly where a sense of autonomy comes from

Interestly, its also why people in thus category tend to be against Big nanny state government- they don’t need it or want it, Big Government never makes people happier, just more reliant and less autonomous

Yes I am generally happy, and I’ve spent 20 years becoming specialised in what I do. So it’s not so easy just to flip a switch and change into something new.

It’s worst when you’re actually a middle earner so 50k but get spat on because your DH earns 60k so also a middle earner, meaning combined you’re ’high earners’. It’s all relative. We’re definitely wealthier as a result of not having to pay rent for example and also because we’re in the north. But we made the life choice to have 5 DC and they cost a fortune. Mostly clothing, shoes, food, school trips, times out with friends etc for the teens. Younger 2 are fairly cheap but when in nursery a couple of years ago, not so much.

If we lived down south and particularly if we rented, we wouldn’t even be comfortable. We can’t afford many luxuries as it is.

The highest earning 10% of taxpayers contribute 60% of the UKs total tax revenue.

So yes, if they left the country would fall apart.

Because not all skills are equal.
Some skills are rare and in demand. That is life. You seem to be demanding that every single job is valued exactly the same if they ‘work hard’ when clearly, in reality, this is absolutely not the case. Idealism won’t pay the (vast) bills.

It's not really about the moral right and wrongs of it. Economics is about incentives and disincentives, not morality. And at the moment, people are disencentivised from earning over 100K. I'm on of them. I'm not whinging about the situation but it does affect how I behave.

If I earnt, say 125K, I would spend the money in the economy on home improvements and nicer stuff. And pay 40% tax on it, so more money to the Exchequr. As it is, I work less and pay more into my pension to stay under 100K because a 60% marginal tax rate is a huge, huge disincentive.

So the cliff edge is stifling economic growth and removing it would help the whole economy.

Thank you.

The statistics speak for themselves, and yes we do rely on the 10% to pay the nurses, teachers and every other service you can think of, some gratitude for their resilience, dedication wouldn’t go amiss. To value their huge contribution to society.

Yes but it doesn’t go up enough to compensate for the time you give up because you get less than 50% of what you earn.
At a lower tax band you take home more per hour that you work so an extra hour seems worth it.
Why do so many low earners like you not understand this. (And by the way- I know they do- I’m just flipping your ridiculous insult back at you, it’s only you I think is stupid)