Resentment at 100k

[Arseholeneighbours]

Theres a lot of vitriol spilt towards people being “high earners” at 100k and over. As net contributors, and most likely having made sacrifices, stresses and difficult life decisions, there’s many judgements about life choices , expectations and living within one’s means. What is the motivation to push forward in a career and to try and be as successful as one can if there’s no personal gain? It’s all well and good saying those with the broadest shoulders should take on the most - but to what end?

Ok so I should have no career ambitions and just find a man to look after me

You have NO idea about other people’s financial lives and just because you’re okay doesn’t mean everyone else I was or is. And if they pay tax they can say whatever they want about it.

@SleeplessInWherever what’s your opinion on this? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I worked throughout Covid and the government never paid my wages

Fair enough, but plenty of people did get 80% of their wages paid for being off.

It's both.

It's lucky to be born on the NHS with high intelligence in a family which prioritises your development and education enabling you to achieve your potential. It's lucky that you were vaccinated against many childhood illnesses and when you did get sick you could see a doctor. It's lucky if you went to a good state school and were supported to apply for University. It's lucky that you came from a country with world class Universities training neurosurgeons. It's lucky that the infrastructure in the UK enabled you to travel to University and then to work without significant issues. It's even lucky that neurosurgery is even a thing- it's not something that you'd expect to be able to access in the developing world.

It's also a lot of very hard work and dedication.

Is it harder work than a child who dragged themselves up in poverty, parents unable or unwilling to provide the necessities for optimal brain development in the first 100 days, in an area with extremely poor state options, leaving school at 16 and working as a labourer? Or an immigrant who walked many miles to school in their home country to get an education and managed to qualify as a dentist only to come to the UK and find that the course they completed was nowhere near at the standard needed to work as a dentist here, due to the lack of equipment available?

What a strange way to look at it. There is a weird pinch point between £100-£125k where you don’t take home as much as you’d like from any pay rise but you need to just keep working and push through that £125k barrier. Then pay rises start to feel more meaningful.

Most people setting pay reviews understand this.

But at the end of the day, I’d much rather earn £110k than the UK average of £35k any day.

I AGGREE with you OP! No incentive to want to work hard and earn better wages. There is incentive to invest in stocks though! 😆

So have the people who choose to have children but can’t afford to raise them. That too is also a choice.

@Arseholeneighbours I mean there's a wide gulf between no career aspirations and working 90 hour weeks.

Im 59, it is literally only in the last 4 years that I can say I am comfortable with my financial situation. A combination of things but the big one is that DCs are now fully grown adults in work so no more supporting them through school, uni etc.

Until DCs become independent it feels like you are constantly throwing money at problems to try and solve them. There are always more problems than money.

I didn't say it wasn't. The OP is however here complaining about the costs of her life choices.

At some point. It's just jealously and politics if envy. "Oh look at these people with their high salaries. How dare try enjoy a modicum of their earnings. We should all have it".

We are high earners. Additional rate (just about). We don't see people on 300k, 400k etc and et jealously or angry at them. Personal responsibility.

Sorry let me get this right…. The state of the country right now is because high earners rinsed the government when Covid hit??? 😂😂😂😂😂
The state of this country is because we are letting any Tom dick and harry into our country using our already battered NHS, British people using benefits as a way of living not wanting to work, teaching their kids to do the same, the government has done us over on both parties Labour & Conservatives.
It is a mess!!! Covid was the icing on the cake !

We're immigrants from the "3rd world". Guess our educational success and high income is all done to luck and not hard work. We grew up with less that what UK council estate people have right now. But yeah. All luck.

Crazy that I chose to get a job and procreate!

Yeah. Then the AI bubble or whatever bursts, and all the threads appear from investors demanding government cover their losses.

:-)

Furlough was capped at 80% of £2,500 a month.

So no, higher earners weren’t getting 80% of their salaries paid on furlough.

@Arseholeneighbours yeah so did I. Yet here you are complaining about the cost of childcare. Do I enjoy paying a couple of grand a month for childcare? No. Do I accept that it's what I have to do in order to work. Yes.

That's only for a short period of time- and childcare is a mess and unfair for everyone. If you're on UC you get 85% of it paid for, so anyone just below the UC threshold is also on "a cliff edge". If your baby is born on the 1st April, they don't get free hours until September, whereas a baby born on 31st March gets a whole extra term of free hours before starting school. Childcare is also ruinously expensive.

I'm not at all against reforming the childcare system but the unfairness doesn't only affect £100k earners and I would also say they are much less likely to be finding it a real struggle to cope! Many people have to leave work because childcare is more than their wage. I suppose you consider them scroungers.

Not easy to just sail from £100k to £200k though is it. It might take several years - if the industry you are in has salaries up to that amount.

I mean going from £100 to £125k is a 25% increase in salary. Thats a couple of promotions - and just keeps you in ‘break even’ territory.

Except this thread is not really about that.

OP wants their high wage, AND government benefits.

No I don’t consider them scroungers, I think it’s a dreadful barrier to getting women back in the workplace and having independence.

That everyone else gets below that income threshold.

Well no, I just don’t want to work for free