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Adviceneededpls1 · 25/11/2025 12:02

I absolutely know I need to get real medical advice and that’s not what I’m looking for here I guess I’m seeking reassurance here.

My DD is 15 and currently on her way home from school with her Nan, I’m on the train home from work and going crazy with worry.

She has had severe heavy periods for a couple of years and has tried mefenamic acid, the mini pill and now the full pill continuous without breaks. She started the full pill in October as she was enduring a 4 week long period. She stopped bleeding for about 5 days and has since been bleeding heavily again non stop for approximately 18 days. She is dizzy, pale, lethargic, complaining of bone and stomach pain. She’s also got clots of blood.

She’s autistic and struggles to communicate pain so when she does I know it’s severe, she’s having paracetamol and ibruprofen every day for pain relief on her tummy. Her recent blood test revealed serum ferritin level of 16 which she has been prescribed a low dose iron supplement for. However the GPs just don’t listen to my concerns, I’m beyond frustrated with their care, refusing to refer her to gynae and not joining up symptoms for example one doctor printed out leaflets on stretching and said that’s why she was feeling weak and had painful bones!

Anyway, I’ve tried to get another GP appt and there aren’t any. What do I do now? My DD is crying in agony, she looks so withdrawn and weak, she has stopped her weekend hobby which was her only real form of socialisation and it’s now impacting her GCSEs. Would A&E just send us away? For context I had a full hysterectomy at a very young age due to severe endometriosis but even that isn’t taken into consideration.

Please help, I think my gut is telling me to take her but any advice to get me through this train journey home would be great!

OP posts:
Mummasaurus91 · 25/11/2025 22:32

Longer term I’d be looking at seeking out alternative medicine to be honest - homeopath, naturopath etc. Some people may think it’s a bit woo but I’ve had a tonne of successes going down these routes with my children over the years when mainstream medicine just wanted to mask symptoms rather than getting to the root cause or look at the whole picture.

Also cut out endocrine disrupters as much as possible. Get rid of wax melts/perfumes/toxic cleaning products. Change to non-toxic shampoo and deodorant etc. Eat as clean as possible and order her some lactoferrin supplements.

Lotsalotsagiggles · 25/11/2025 23:03

How did it go?

Beepbird · 25/11/2025 23:21

Late to this and it’s probably already been suggested-my daughter had very similar symptoms and is also autistic. Our GP is great but advised to go private if we could. That was a game changer and not as expensive as I thought it might be. £250 for a consult with a fantastic gynae-we were in for an hour, she listened and offered my daughter a couple of drugs which aren’t readily available on the NHS due to cost. Daughter currently on slynd which seems to be helping, she also tried dienogest which was brilliant but caused a lot of weight gain. Other things that helped whilst we waited for her appointment was a maternity tens machine she could wear. Hope you get sorted one way or another.

Hollyhobbi · 25/11/2025 23:35

Namechange29383929383 · 25/11/2025 14:15

My Ferritin level is currently 22 and was told by dr last week they won’t give me anything for it. I feel truly awful all the time so have sympathies for OP’s daughter and everyone else in the thread who has been even lower!

Buy some over the counter iron supplements and take with orange juice!

CareerChange24 · 25/11/2025 23:36

PullingOutHair123 · 25/11/2025 12:21

Echo this - especially the drinks and snacks. Lots of snacks! If neither of you have had lunch, might be worth picking up something substantial on your way in or it could be a while before you get a proper meal again. I appreciate she may not fancy eating.

There is often a tea / coffee machine. But if a hot water bottle helps, maybe worth taking a flask of hot water to top one up.

A pack of cards is often good too, if you both play any games. Helps pass the time and saves the charge on your phone!

You two cannot be serious. Blankets and pillows. Bizarre but fair enough if that’s needed. But a pack of cards??? If I saw someone playing cards I’d think they were a time waster and needed to go home!! If you are well enough for games it’s not the place for you!

DoYouReally · 26/11/2025 00:00

It's so bloody crap how female health treatment is.

It doesn't take a genius to diagnose her...anyone who has endometrosis recognises every symptom.

I only got my referral by refusing to leave the doctors office.

Demand that she gets a referral and tell the doctor that you need a written explanation for the Medical Council if they still refuse.

I hope she gets the right treatment soon.

MuthaHubbard · 26/11/2025 00:03

Keep pushing. Long story short, my DD23 had same symptoms but constantly fobbed off by gp until she presented at a&e unable to walk due to the pain.
She's just been diagnosed with Adenomyosis

ThisAutumnTown · 26/11/2025 00:27

I’m so sorry you’re going through this but so proud of you for advocating for your daughter and refusing to be fobbed off by arrogant and incompetent doctors.
I’ve been let down by drs numerous times and if I hadn’t have advocated for myself so vocally, I would have died on multiple occasions.

Keep pushing and refuse to take no for an answer.

I hope your poor dd gets correctly diagnosed and treated asap. Keeping everything crossed for you both.

Adviceneededpls1 · 26/11/2025 00:31

I honestly can’t explain how much today on here has helped. The advice has been incredible and the support genuinely has kept me going. Thank you.

Update:
We managed to get an appointment at the out of hours doctor. Honestly, it was the usual story, no eye contact, rushed, scrolling through the computer while we were pouring our hearts out. He prescribed tranexamic acid (maximum 5 days) and told us to give her the iron tablets daily instead of every other day, which goes against what she was previously told.

When I asked about a gynaecology referral, he claimed it’s “literally impossible” to refer anyone under 18. Apparently there are no paediatric gynaecologists that he knows of. I challenged him, because everything I’ve researched says that paediatric and adolescent gynaecology does exist, and the NHS does have referral criteria she meets. His response? “Would you go private?”

I said I’d consider a private initial consultation with the NHS consultant who also works privately. Eventually, he said he could refer her to general paediatrics, and then they could request the GP refer to gynae. I agreed because my dd was clearly uncomfortable and I didn’t want to prolong her distress. But the entire thing felt like yet another hurdle in an already exhausting fight.

So yes, I’ll be booking a private consultation in the hope it opens the door to the NHS waiting list. Because at this point, it feels like if I don’t push, no one else will.

I am absolutely devastated that care for girls and women is still this poor. I am sick to death of seeing GPs and medics on shiny TV sofas, earnestly telling women to “go to your GP”, to “advocate for yourself”, to “get checked”. All while, in reality, so many of us are met with rushed appointments, blank stares, and a complete lack of curiosity or care. These soundbites feel hollow when your dd is sitting in front of a doctor, pale and in pain, and they can’t be bothered to even look at her properly or ask a question.

I’m tired. I’m angry. And I’m scared that this is the standard we’re supposed to accept. I’m ready to escalate this, our MP, our trust, whoever needs to hear it, because this isn’t a one off. Her whole life we’ve been battling for the bare minimum, the school’s SEN failings, the complete lack of autism appropriate support and now the healthcare system too.

I don’t want to make everything about gender, but I can’t shake the feeling that if a teenage boy repeatedly presented with severe, ongoing symptoms like this, the response would look very different. It’s 2025 and girls and women are still receiving substandard care for pain, bleeding, and complex symptoms that should be taken seriously.

Thank you if you’ve read this far, I really needed to vent. And to all of you who’ve offered advice and kindness today, please know how much it means.

OP posts:
WeightLossGoal2024 · 26/11/2025 00:50

Just wanted to say you’re an amazing Mum but I agree women are so mistreated by the NHS

ittakes2 · 26/11/2025 01:01

Documentary on women’s struggles to get help with endo

m.imdb.com/title/tt21403232/

ittakes2 · 26/11/2025 01:05

I would look on Facebook for Nancy nooks endo care - I do know of a teen girl in the uk who had surgery for endo when she was about 14/15. endomission.org/resources/nancys-nook/

ghostiewhisp · 26/11/2025 01:16

It’s so hard
ten years ago I said I thought I might have endo and because I didn’t want the pill they shrugged
3 years ago I started with severe unusual pain and got sent for an ultrasound. The endo was so severe they diagnosed me from that
it was 2 years of clinging on to my job, constant a&e trips to be offered paracetamol, begging for more pain relief, actually screaming in pain, paramedics having to use gas and air to get me up and finally got an operation date

from the MRI they said day case, bowel surgeon on call, 3 ish hours. The MRI was 8 months before
the amazing gynae surgeon went in, immediately called the bowel surgeon and operated on me for over 8hrs because it was so severe

my fucking bowel was folded in half and stuck to my ovary, my other ovary was stuck to my rectum, I had 7 endometriomas removed and god knows how many adhesions and endo tissue

Christmasisuponus25 · 26/11/2025 01:17

Hi sorry I’m a bit late but just wanted to touch base on the gyneo referral so my DD 12 was referred by her general paedatirician and it was refused because of age but then she was referred to a general paed who specialised in adolences including gynaecology so this maybe the route you need to take - if it helps this particular doctor is at Hammersmith hospital.

Neon11 · 26/11/2025 01:19

I'm really sorry this is happening to your daughter, unfortunately this happened to me from age 14 and I was put on the pill and diagnosed with pcos at 18... then at 27 after coming off the pill, having agonising pain to the point I was crying after sex, and being unable to conceive I was finally diagnosed with endometriosis, so much infact I haven't managed to conceive. I'm still at 33 fighting for care for my gyne issues which has taken over my whole life, my bladder and bowels are even affected x

Dontlistentothegp · 26/11/2025 01:43

Bleeding between periods is not normal and should always be investigated.
Not to scare you but my DD was diagnosed with cervical cancer at the age of 17. Slightly different to your DD as she did not experience any pain but she did have continuous bleeding.
It took 6 months of going back and forth to the GP, various medications and lots of pushing but she did get a scan and then a 2 week wait gynae referral. Nothing is impossible if the GP fills the referral correctly.
You do not need a paediatric gynaecologist, you just need a gynaecologist.
That said, I wish I’d just gone private when she was fobbed off with the pill by the first (male) GP she saw.
I hope you manage to get the support your daughter needs.

sparkleghost · 26/11/2025 01:48

Well done on advocating for your daughter OP. I had a very long journey to my eventual endometriosis diagnosis and a lot of poor treatment along the way, so I really feel for you. I had hoped things might have improved with diagnosis times now and it makes me so sad to hear about your daughter’s experience. She’s lucky to have a lovely Mum like you fighting for her 💕

CherrieTomaties · 26/11/2025 02:44

I hope the tranexamic acid gives your daughter some relief. (Also buscopan can be helpful. I’ve sometimes found that buscopan can relieve my pain more than codeine which sounds bizarre!)

Also, just linking the NICE guidelines for Endo for you, should you need to refer to them 💐

https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng73/chapter/recommendations#:~:text=1.3%20Endometriosis%20symptoms%20and%20signs,-1.3.&text=Suspect%20endometriosis%20in%20women%20(including,pain%20during%20or%20after%20sexual

Also also, if you are on Facebook there’s a group called Endometriosis Guidance and Information Resource UK (EndoRevisited) it’s an amazing group, the moderators are extremely knowledgeable and are so helpful with advice and signposting.

LittleValleyOverNearSlice · 26/11/2025 03:47

Hopefully the tranexamic acid will help, but if 5 days doesn't do the trick, don't be shy about going back to get more. Also, with regard to the iron tablets, it's best to take with orange juice, and avoid tea/coffee/coke as the vitamin c helps absorption but the caffeine hinders it. Oh and are the iron tablets ferrous sulfate? If taking them daily is causing her stomach issues, then an alternative option is ferrous fumarate which is a bit nicer to take.

DreamTheMoors · 26/11/2025 04:16

Adviceneededpls1 · 26/11/2025 00:31

I honestly can’t explain how much today on here has helped. The advice has been incredible and the support genuinely has kept me going. Thank you.

Update:
We managed to get an appointment at the out of hours doctor. Honestly, it was the usual story, no eye contact, rushed, scrolling through the computer while we were pouring our hearts out. He prescribed tranexamic acid (maximum 5 days) and told us to give her the iron tablets daily instead of every other day, which goes against what she was previously told.

When I asked about a gynaecology referral, he claimed it’s “literally impossible” to refer anyone under 18. Apparently there are no paediatric gynaecologists that he knows of. I challenged him, because everything I’ve researched says that paediatric and adolescent gynaecology does exist, and the NHS does have referral criteria she meets. His response? “Would you go private?”

I said I’d consider a private initial consultation with the NHS consultant who also works privately. Eventually, he said he could refer her to general paediatrics, and then they could request the GP refer to gynae. I agreed because my dd was clearly uncomfortable and I didn’t want to prolong her distress. But the entire thing felt like yet another hurdle in an already exhausting fight.

So yes, I’ll be booking a private consultation in the hope it opens the door to the NHS waiting list. Because at this point, it feels like if I don’t push, no one else will.

I am absolutely devastated that care for girls and women is still this poor. I am sick to death of seeing GPs and medics on shiny TV sofas, earnestly telling women to “go to your GP”, to “advocate for yourself”, to “get checked”. All while, in reality, so many of us are met with rushed appointments, blank stares, and a complete lack of curiosity or care. These soundbites feel hollow when your dd is sitting in front of a doctor, pale and in pain, and they can’t be bothered to even look at her properly or ask a question.

I’m tired. I’m angry. And I’m scared that this is the standard we’re supposed to accept. I’m ready to escalate this, our MP, our trust, whoever needs to hear it, because this isn’t a one off. Her whole life we’ve been battling for the bare minimum, the school’s SEN failings, the complete lack of autism appropriate support and now the healthcare system too.

I don’t want to make everything about gender, but I can’t shake the feeling that if a teenage boy repeatedly presented with severe, ongoing symptoms like this, the response would look very different. It’s 2025 and girls and women are still receiving substandard care for pain, bleeding, and complex symptoms that should be taken seriously.

Thank you if you’ve read this far, I really needed to vent. And to all of you who’ve offered advice and kindness today, please know how much it means.

That’s a girl.
Stay mad.
Stay mad for your daughter.
Stay mad for ALL the daughters.
I hope your little girl gets better real quick.
Sending love from afar. ❤️

Bowies · 26/11/2025 04:20

I think your GP is wrong.

NHS gynaecology depts will also see/take referrals for teenagers.

Can you contact your nearest large hospital gynae dept directly to find out? Ideally speak to a nurse specialist about your DD and clarify the referral process.

I would go back once you have the information and ask for the NHS gynae referral as they take a while to come through.

Re the Birmingham service you found, why would they not refer you there?

Tolkienista · 26/11/2025 04:57

You're the mother every girl needs in her life.
So sorry for what you are going through in fighting for your daughter.
Hope the outcome is a positive one for you both.
Sending positivity and best wishes.

Zanatdy · 26/11/2025 05:02

Adviceneededpls1 · 26/11/2025 00:31

I honestly can’t explain how much today on here has helped. The advice has been incredible and the support genuinely has kept me going. Thank you.

Update:
We managed to get an appointment at the out of hours doctor. Honestly, it was the usual story, no eye contact, rushed, scrolling through the computer while we were pouring our hearts out. He prescribed tranexamic acid (maximum 5 days) and told us to give her the iron tablets daily instead of every other day, which goes against what she was previously told.

When I asked about a gynaecology referral, he claimed it’s “literally impossible” to refer anyone under 18. Apparently there are no paediatric gynaecologists that he knows of. I challenged him, because everything I’ve researched says that paediatric and adolescent gynaecology does exist, and the NHS does have referral criteria she meets. His response? “Would you go private?”

I said I’d consider a private initial consultation with the NHS consultant who also works privately. Eventually, he said he could refer her to general paediatrics, and then they could request the GP refer to gynae. I agreed because my dd was clearly uncomfortable and I didn’t want to prolong her distress. But the entire thing felt like yet another hurdle in an already exhausting fight.

So yes, I’ll be booking a private consultation in the hope it opens the door to the NHS waiting list. Because at this point, it feels like if I don’t push, no one else will.

I am absolutely devastated that care for girls and women is still this poor. I am sick to death of seeing GPs and medics on shiny TV sofas, earnestly telling women to “go to your GP”, to “advocate for yourself”, to “get checked”. All while, in reality, so many of us are met with rushed appointments, blank stares, and a complete lack of curiosity or care. These soundbites feel hollow when your dd is sitting in front of a doctor, pale and in pain, and they can’t be bothered to even look at her properly or ask a question.

I’m tired. I’m angry. And I’m scared that this is the standard we’re supposed to accept. I’m ready to escalate this, our MP, our trust, whoever needs to hear it, because this isn’t a one off. Her whole life we’ve been battling for the bare minimum, the school’s SEN failings, the complete lack of autism appropriate support and now the healthcare system too.

I don’t want to make everything about gender, but I can’t shake the feeling that if a teenage boy repeatedly presented with severe, ongoing symptoms like this, the response would look very different. It’s 2025 and girls and women are still receiving substandard care for pain, bleeding, and complex symptoms that should be taken seriously.

Thank you if you’ve read this far, I really needed to vent. And to all of you who’ve offered advice and kindness today, please know how much it means.

After my DD’s blood transfusion (age 12, first period would not stop, and she got weaker and weaker) she was referred to a gynacologist so certainly possible. She had several scans but no cause was found. She is 18 in March and still is not right. Always tired. At one point her ferritin was 8 and she looked deathly pale (and she is mixed race). It’s been such a battle. She is on the mini pill now so only has a break every 3-4 months as her tiredness gets much worse with periods. She needs to see a cardiologist as they diagnosed her with POTS at the chronic fatigue clinic but need her heart checking out properly. Honestly it’s a joke, its been so poor. How she has managed to get good grades at school I don’t know as going to school takes up all her energy. It’s all so unfair.

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