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Is this admission fraud? AIBU to report it?

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grammarmom · 24/11/2025 16:21

Here's the situation.

We live in a grammar school catchment area that gets smaller every year. When we bought our house several years ago, it was very comfortably within the catchment for an excellent local grammar (very high in the league tables), and oh boy was it reflected in the price. Now we're right on the boundary. Among the thirty or so houses around us, some children got in last year and some didn't, literally a difference of a few yards.

Another child on our street, who is in the same class as my DC, only just passed the 11+ (a few points above the pass threshold). We live on the same road, but they are about 50 yards further from the school gate. Based on last year's distances, my child would likely get a place while theirs wouldn't.

Over the weekend, during a sleepover, the child mentioned that her mother has now rented a house much closer to the school to secure a higher priority for admission. The tenancy was apparently signed one day before the cut-off date, making it "legal" for admission purposes. She still owns their original home, but the story being presented is that relatives who were previously "homeless" will now live there free of charge, and all bills and utilities have been transferred into those relatives' names (I strongly suspect that the mother will in fact pay these bills as those relatives are penniless).

She's even moved the children's belongings to the rented property and makes them spend nights there (they hate it). There's no doubt that once the school place is obtained, they will move right back.

This effectively pushes my child down the priority list and means they may now miss out.

Would this constitute admissions fraud? It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).

Should I report this? I have no more detail apart from what this child told me (and they obviously weren't too sure about some aspects of it due to age).

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puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 20:53

LovesLabradors · 24/11/2025 20:48

I can easily believe this - it's to stop parents doing exactly what OP's friend has done.
My DC went to a very over-subscribed primary school, where parents would move to a house in catchment, and then move far away and rely on the sibling rule to get their other children in.
One year 28 places (yes, 28 - you read that right) in a yearly intake of 30 (one class in each year) were taken up by siblings.
In our second year there, they introduced a rule that if you changed address, you automatically lost your "sibling rule" rights. And they enforced it too - several friends of mine fell foul to it, even if they were genuinely just moving to a bigger house, in the same area.
You have no idea the lengths some parents go to, and the schools respond in kind.

I've looked it up- highly unlikely it's true it would be a completely unreasonable rule.
The sibling rule you mention is , however, reasonable, if the family have moved out of catchment.

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 20:55

bibbadee · 24/11/2025 20:52

Why on earth why I make up a story about school admission criteria? It literally states this. I assume the school would use discretion about individual cases.

a quick google shows me this from one school:

  1. We will not accept a temporary address if the main carer of the child still owns a property that has previously been used as a home address, nor will we accept a temporary address if we believe it has been used to obtain a school place when an alternative address is still available to that child.

and this…

The School, in conjunction with the local authorities , may investigate any applications:
> Where records show a change of address within the previous 12 months

Neither of those things say anything like what you claimed.

TheNightingalesStarling · 24/11/2025 20:56

If they are claiming the family are paying them rent, they need to pay income tax on this as well. It pull be a lot more expensive than they envisioned. (And maybe against their mortgage terms as well...)

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 20:59

TheNightingalesStarling · 24/11/2025 20:56

If they are claiming the family are paying them rent, they need to pay income tax on this as well. It pull be a lot more expensive than they envisioned. (And maybe against their mortgage terms as well...)

No, that's the unbelievable part. A five-bed house worth over a million has apparently just been handed over indefinitely for poor distant relatives to live in.

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puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 21:00

Twilightstarbright · 24/11/2025 20:53

Not for our local one it doesn’t! They got wise to people ‘renting’ it to a family member like this scenario.

Source?

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/11/2025 21:03

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 20:51

Renting out the property would count as disposing of it. So the fact that she has people moving in works.

Not necessarily. In many authorities you would have to have sold it. The admissions policy will prohibit owning a property or owning a property within a certain distance. Plenty of people moving quite innocently have fallen foul of this rule where it applies.

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 21:04

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/11/2025 21:03

Not necessarily. In many authorities you would have to have sold it. The admissions policy will prohibit owning a property or owning a property within a certain distance. Plenty of people moving quite innocently have fallen foul of this rule where it applies.

Reference?

bibbadee · 24/11/2025 21:05

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 20:55

Neither of those things say anything like what you claimed.

I know. I was just showing other criteria at different schools.

as other posters have already demonstrated, plenty of schools have their own weird and wonderful admissions criteria to combat abuse of the system. I don’t know why you are so disbelieving when schools are trying to crack down on people trying to find loopholes.

my original post clearly states it’s to avoid admissions fraud, it wouldn’t apply in the case of genuine reasons to move, although these would all be investigated under the criteria.
Other schools have different criteria where even genuine house moves would work against them.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/11/2025 21:07

The case I’m thinking of involved a family moving 200+ miles for work and the local authority refusing to use the rented address. It was an absolute clusterfuck from what I remember.
I will try and find an authority with that policy but it may take a while.

SouthLondonMum22 · 24/11/2025 21:07

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 20:59

No, that's the unbelievable part. A five-bed house worth over a million has apparently just been handed over indefinitely for poor distant relatives to live in.

You quizzed the hell out of that poor kid, didn't you?

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 21:18

bibbadee · 24/11/2025 21:05

I know. I was just showing other criteria at different schools.

as other posters have already demonstrated, plenty of schools have their own weird and wonderful admissions criteria to combat abuse of the system. I don’t know why you are so disbelieving when schools are trying to crack down on people trying to find loopholes.

my original post clearly states it’s to avoid admissions fraud, it wouldn’t apply in the case of genuine reasons to move, although these would all be investigated under the criteria.
Other schools have different criteria where even genuine house moves would work against them.

I'm disbelieving because people are making all kinds of claims that would be wildly unreasonable policies if they were true. You said:

one of the admission criteria clearly states that if, at any point during the child’s time at the school, they change their address to a previous place of residence, they will lose their place at the school

This surely can't be true. The admissions policy may say that this may disqualify you or trigger investigation if they suspect fraud but that's very different.

TheQuirkyMaker · 24/11/2025 21:19

Would this constitute admissions fraud? It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school, especially when their child didn't perform particularly well in the exam (despite being tutored for hours every day).
Rich people try to buy their children a better education? Color me shocked.

cocoromo · 24/11/2025 21:21

KarmenPQZ · 24/11/2025 16:32

It feels incredibly unfair that someone with £40k to spare for rent can effectively buy their way into a top grammar school

but you effectively did the same by paying over the odds for a house within the catchment that someone with less spare money than you couldn’t afford. So you also bought your way in. Thats the whole problem with the system

Well said! So sick of postcode school places - all kids deserve a good education, not just the ones whose parents can afford the nice areas! Been like this in my area for years - horrible system!

FlowerUser · 24/11/2025 21:23

If it's any consolation kids at grammar schools don't do better than non-selective schools. And the brightest kids may actually not get as good grades as they might at a non-selective school.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/aug/28/english-regions-dominated-by-grammar-schools-do-not-improve-grades-study-says

Middle class kids will do well wherever they go because their parents are motivated to ensure they do well.

I think we should just do away with all selection and use the money saved on the exam system to invest in all schools in the area.

English regions dominated by grammar schools do not improve grades, study says

Pupils in grammar school areas experience little boost in results, while grades among brightest may actually be lower

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/aug/28/english-regions-dominated-by-grammar-schools-do-not-improve-grades-study-says

Sirkeir · 24/11/2025 21:25

Surely private school is cheaper than buying an entire house 🤣🤣
I think if someone’s that dedicated you should just let them have it though

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 24/11/2025 21:27

Dancingwithweasels · 24/11/2025 17:02

No you’re not. Your angry that the house you bought specifically because it was in the catchment area of a good school might now not be close enough for your own child to get a place there. If your child gets in will you be similarly angry on behalf of the children outside the catchment?

There’s nothing wrong with your move but don’t dress it up as something it’s not. This reminds me of a mother I knew who moved to a grammar school catchment and then went on to dedicate her life to their abolition after her child failed the 11+

I have to agree with this. You're only morally affronted because it potentially affects you.

You "gamed" the system financially by buying a very expensive house specifically in the school catchment

She gamed it by renting... If she hadn't rented that property, maybe another family with a child the same age would have

Other parents game it by going to church for a few years

All as bad as each other, and all contributing to educational inequality

I say this as someone who sends one of their children to private school (not for academic reasons however but for SEN) so I'm gaming the system in my own way.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/11/2025 21:27

https://www.croydon.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2022-10/croydon-local-authority-address-of-convenience-protocol.pdf

@puppymaddness here we are. Para 4.2. Specifically the sentence about renting out a property that the child had formerly lived in wouldn’t necessarily deem it unavailable to the family.

Camden will also do further checks and need an explanation why your owned properly is being rented out when they investigate. They aren’t as explicit as Croydon but I’d imagine that if you own a house in the local area and are renting it out to family while you start a rental contract the day before the admissions deadline the explanation for why you needed to move and move then is going to have to be reeeeeaaaallllly good if you want to convince their admissions department that you aren’t trying to pull a fast one.

https://www.croydon.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2022-10/croydon-local-authority-address-of-convenience-protocol.pdf

seven201 · 24/11/2025 21:28

@WickedlittledancerI work in a grammar where the entrance criteria is pass of the local county 11+ test, then distance. Exact scores don’t come into it. This county is a pretty even mix of super selective (scores based entrance) and just needing a pass.

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 21:36

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/11/2025 21:27

https://www.croydon.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2022-10/croydon-local-authority-address-of-convenience-protocol.pdf

@puppymaddness here we are. Para 4.2. Specifically the sentence about renting out a property that the child had formerly lived in wouldn’t necessarily deem it unavailable to the family.

Camden will also do further checks and need an explanation why your owned properly is being rented out when they investigate. They aren’t as explicit as Croydon but I’d imagine that if you own a house in the local area and are renting it out to family while you start a rental contract the day before the admissions deadline the explanation for why you needed to move and move then is going to have to be reeeeeaaaallllly good if you want to convince their admissions department that you aren’t trying to pull a fast one.

wouldn’t necessarily deem it unavailable to the family.

that implies it could make it unavailable just not "necessarily"?

Camden will also do further checks and need an explanation why your owned properly is being rented out when they investigate.
Sure. But further checks and explanation is different to saying you have to sell

Trixibell1234 · 24/11/2025 21:36

This is a grammar school near me

Is this admission fraud? AIBU to report it?
Cymbalsimba · 24/11/2025 21:44

It’s unfair but in the cold light of day tomorrow, read some of your posts - if this were read out (to work colleagues, for example) surely you would cringe? Reporting this off the back of information you grilled a 10 year old for is not becoming.

Genevieva · 24/11/2025 21:44

Surely if it’s a grammar school the 11+ result takes priority over the distance from school for all children within the designated catchment?

NormasArse · 24/11/2025 21:48

It goes on points first. If your child scored higher, they will be above their child on the list.

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 24/11/2025 21:50

grammarmom · 24/11/2025 20:59

No, that's the unbelievable part. A five-bed house worth over a million has apparently just been handed over indefinitely for poor distant relatives to live in.

Is the house nicer than yours OP? Ahh well nevermind.

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 21:50

puppymaddness · 24/11/2025 21:36

wouldn’t necessarily deem it unavailable to the family.

that implies it could make it unavailable just not "necessarily"?

Camden will also do further checks and need an explanation why your owned properly is being rented out when they investigate.
Sure. But further checks and explanation is different to saying you have to sell

Croydon also state that where an applicant owns or rents a property where they previously lived they must explain and evidence the permanence of their house move:

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