To find all this COVID chat reprisal in the news so depressing

[Pavementworrier]

The phrase "social distancing" just chills my bones

If it had happened thirty years earlier things would have been sensibly managed without the apocalyptic horror and uselessness

I don't know how they can talk about collective bomb shelters for ww3 planning with a straight face - who in London would march into the dark to spend time with a random selection of strangers now! You'd be safer above ground

I have no idea what you’re talking about, but I honestly haven’t heard anyone talk about Covid in 4 years other than in a ‘gosh, do you remember that batshittery?’ way.

I’ve moved to the US and it’s even further removed for them as parts of the country (incl. my state) came out of lockdowns in 2020 and cracked on, whereas London - where I was living at the time - had restrictions all the way though to summer 2021.

Covid is just a period in history now, and soon there will be a whole generation of people who won’t remember it (most of ‘generation alpha’, born 2011-2025, have no memory of it).

The covid enquiry has been going on for ages but they are currently discussing the shortfalls of the UK governments. Predictably, the investigation shows ‘1000!s of lives would of been saved if we had been locked down earlier’, but not long ago they talked about how detrimental and terrible the lockdown was for humanity. Devastating regardless for all those that lost their lives. I can’t help thinking they were damned whenever they started the lockdown depending what camp you were in regarding the pandemic. Nobody was ever going to say the government did a good job in covid as we all had crosses to bear through that time.

Look at the news @Crushed23. They’re currently giving us the verdict on the Gov response from the inquiry.

Having been in a job that required a lot of contact with Gov at the time, there’s an awful lot of benefit of hindsight being used in this verdict.

I genuinely think most did their best with the information they were given. And mistakes were made.

“I genuinely think most did their best with the information they were given. And mistakes were made”

That’s not the findings of the report. It concludes that the lack of urgency overall in government was "inexcusable”.

see my user name for the consequences.

It wasn’t “batshittery” for the 223,000 families who lost loved ones.

I was running a community group at the time and decided to shut that down much earlier than advised due to the risk. It was already too late anyway because it was almost certainly already in our community months before.
I’m sorry for your loss 💐

I agree tbh. I’ve found the enquiry odd. At one point it felt they were in uproar that the schools shut then in uproar they didn’t shut early enough.

Mistakes were made without doubt, but I do think hindsight is wonderful.

So sorry @BorisKilledMyHusband. Devastating how many lives were lost.

I’m sorry @BorisKilledMyHusband 💐

I was really glad to be in Australia during this time. There was a minimum loss of life from Covid. And because of the government measures people were able to access hospitals for all the usual (non covid) emergencies too. People still died of it unfortunately, but nothing like other countries. It was frightening watching what was happening in the UK and Italy and the US - the countries that received the most coverage in the news.

It was isolating and I became quite depressed during the worst of it. But I didn’t die nor did anyone I know personally. So I was very very grateful for that.

Thank you all for your kind words.

I can accept that people can make mistakes. what sticks in my throat is the “toxic and chaotic" culture in Downing Street which affected decision-making. I don’t know how Johnson, Cummings and Hancock sleep at night.

And don’t forget the parties. I subsequently found out they held a party on the day my DH died.

Families have waited a long time for this report publication.

If it had happened thirty years earlier things would have been sensibly managed without the apocalyptic horror and uselessness
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what are you basing this opinion on?

I’ve always wondered about Australia and the general opinion about harsh lock downs, wasn’t Melbourne locked down for >200 days?

People were going mad at the lockdowns here with not great compliance. I wonder how much compliance the government would have had locking down longer, earlier and harder?

I honestly don’t know what the answer should have been? I imagine it was chaotic and disorderly- as much as I agree mistakes were definitely made nobody had a crystal ball. I’m not sure any government came out smelling of roses.

Yes. Ozz came out with some of the best results, but goodness me, the ozz guv were lambasted from many quarters at the time.

An ozz friend was in China through it and I remember his comments about the folk saying ozz was draconian were colourfull.

“I honestly don’t know what the answer should have been? I imagine it was chaotic and disorderly- as much as I agree mistakes were definitely made nobody had a crystal ball. I’m not sure any government came out smelling of roses.”

yes it was unprecedented and any government would have been thrown into chaos. But Boris Johnson was hung-ho, refusing to attend cobra meetings saying it would all amount to nothing,

I think the biggest mistake was how we treated the young, that was wrong imo.

Th biggest mistake was locking down too late and as a result more lives were lost

How much money was spent on this enquiry?

And if lockdowns had been handled better no only would there have been fewer deaths, the impact on young people would have been lessened. It’s not an either or situation.

Agreed, I pulled my son out of school the weekend and I’m forever thankful that I did
The writing was most definitely on the wall by that point

I don’t think we should have locked down at all, it was ridiculous. Plus furlong was insane at 80%.
We are all paying for it now, literally.

Surely you’re not questioning the need for an enquiry? How else can we learn how to handle future pandemics better?

The WHO and WEF are planning for "Disease X". This isn't a conspiracy theory. They are actively planning the logistics of the next lockdown. Exactly when or where the announcement will be made is unclear. But there's a reason the Covid laws haven't been resented.

The enquiry was always going to say that we should have been locked down earlier, with harsher conditions. It fits with the WHO narrative. The 23k "extra deaths" is just a meaningless figure, they have made that up.

It's like our "climate reports". Most UK based weather stations are off line and have been for years. When you see temps and "air quality" on weather models, that data is mostly just historic, and averaged for ehat they thibk it should be, the Met Office admitted this under an FOI request.

Disease X is coming. Lockdowns are coming. This is why the story is being pushed so heavily again.

So how do they get the weather then?

Fucking ridiculous statement.

You’d be happy to have had unnecessary deaths without a lockdown???

I wish this was true.

3rd year of Long Covid for me. Can’t leave the house alone.