Cost of living felt easier under Conservatives

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I felt like there was more pressure to help the public.

I remember getting help with gas and electric and they had the cost of living payments too.

Councils used to help out more and there were more warm hubs.

Now it feels like this is the new normal get on with it.

It wasn’t just that though was it ? Lets be honest. They gave a lot of money away, sold gold for minimal money. Took us into a war we didn’t need to go to etc etc Otherwise you can say conservatives were on up until covid and that wasn’t there thought either. The blair government were not great

the Blair gov did make mistakes, Thatcher did lots of damage too.

thatcher also did a lot of good for many people at the beginning , why she stayed in power .so its swings and roundabouts with all goverments. But lately they are all awful and offer nothing, so much so I didn’t bother to vote as there all pretty rubbish

I think what has mainly happened is the same trajectory the economy was on has continued. But I think that would have happened no matter who was in.

Will Labour eventually get the economy going somewhere? Personally I liked RS better for that. I did home that Labour would at least be sensible enough to see that somehow that has to happen but evidence isn't very compelling so far that they are even trying.

They were quick to chuck a few bribes out when they realised they were going to lose the election.

Such as?

I'm sure I have Irish relatives 🤪 something to explore.....

Will Labour eventually get the economy going somewhere?

the major issue now is the shift in demographics with an ageing population

That's certainly true, but it is also true that the Blair years, though they seemed very financially comfortable, did not leave things in a good place. Had they remained they would have had to find solutions just like the conservatives did.

The UK is still paying off the PFI contracts Blair used to boost the NHS, happy to put the burden on the next generation and tie them into paying for the improvements he wanted then.

It's a major issue.

I think the bigger issue is globalism, which has created almost the exact same problem across much of the west. Low productivity, and no obvious way to increase it, and a population hooked on masses of cheap goods.

yep

Whilst I would obviously never want it in reality, I sometimes wonder what it would be like if we had a kind of monarch-style system of government: one party (or maybe a coalition) in permanently, so there could be no blaming what has happened or will happen on 'the other party' and neither could the governing party kick difficult decisions down the road in the knowledge that it would then become somebody else's problem.

As much as they blame and bicker nonstop, the current system (in England at least) of two parties who take it in turns to be in power - oddly very rarely reversing changes that they complained about bitterly when the other party made them when they were in power - suits them both perfectly, and absolves them both of long-term blame and responsibility.

Many people own a home due to RTB that would never of had the chance to, yes some abused it but the vast majority did not.got inflation under control, enviroment etc. were you even born then

except that is totally not true it is not bankrupt at all and not many many have left you can look up the stats for that and many still want to come here , so if it is so bad why ? The economy can be shifted but only by making tough choices, such as looking where the vast amount if money goes, welfare bill needs cutting, overseas spending - cut a little whilst your own country not in its best financial position, look at nhs and how money is spent, can’t just keep taxing the middle earners or the very high. Put vat up on super luxury items like sports cars/ yacht and then still a choice. Loads that can be done, won’t all be popular but they aren’t anyway, make some bold choices and things turn around then maybe you get back in. But to say country is bankrupt is simply not true