Supreme Court decision on religous education and worship - a good thing ?

[Marmaladelover]

I am pleased with the decision. I was brought up a catholic ( with intense indoctrination at school) moved to c of e as a young adult , rejected organised religion with the influx of creationists and literal believers into C of E and now would consider myself an atheist.

I agree that taking children out of worship stigmatises them , They however wanted it as teenagers and I was not prepared to allow Baptists , evangelicals and young earth creationists to preach to them in school assemblies either. So they were removed/ it was not easy.

Ironically this was a joint church C of E school that I had chosen to avoid the more fundamental “Christian” religions in our area. The headteacher was furious and threatened to report me to social services !

I was happy for my children to learn about other religions and to be respectful but not to be indoctrinated .

I'm not in NI, but anything that is a step toward decoupling Religion and State Education is a good thing.

I still haven't forgiven having CoS foisted upon me in school. Absolutely compulsory, threatened with discipline when I asked to be excused. It's a nonsense. The sooner the UK is entirely Secular the better.

No surprise to see the DUP & TUV still totally unable to grasp that a reduction in outrageous privilege does not amount to "discrimination". Clowns.

Do you have a link @Marmaladelover ?

Schools should only teach 'about' religion. No religion should be taught as truth. That sort of thing needs to stay in the home and in church. I welcome this judgement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c201qqq0n61t

That would mean no Easter,Christmas celebrations, Hanukkah, peach, Eid etc as it would have to be accross the board unless parents choose fee paying denominational schools

Never mind decoupling religion and state education, it's time to totally decouple religion and the state. We can start by kicking the Bishops out of the Lords.

What utter nonsense. Schools can celebrate whatever religious festivals they want - they just have to do it without indoctrinating their students. Christmas is part of the fabric of the UK whether you are religious or not, so don't start with the 'they're banning Christmas' stuff.

Indoctrination has no place in schools. If parents want to brainwash their children then that should be done at home (or preferably not at all!).

Surely if it’s a Supreme Court decision this ruling applies throughout the UK ?

Just like the SC decision for For Women Scotland last March.

I think religion in schools schools be limited to religious education lessons and history classes. Families can do what they want 5 evenings a week, 2 days at the weekend and 13 weeks of school holidays.

The decision only affects Northern Ireland because it was a specific ruling on the curriculum there. It changes nothing about schools in other parts of the uk because we don’t follow that curriculum.

Long overdue, in my opinion. I also abhor faith schools of any denomination. I firmly believe that segregation of children on religious grounds is of no benefit to a multicultural society - and can do much harm.

I wonder if people will be as supportive when the Muslim schools near me close?

I'd go further. It's religion in itself was put in the bin of history.
We can still keep all the festivals and they would finally be properly inclusive.

You would support the end of freedom of belief and freedom of expression?

Do they subscribe to only islam religion instruction?

Yes.

They provide an "enriching Islamic environment". Provide "opportunities for students to acquire an in-depth understanding of Deen" (a complete way of life that encompasses beliefs, laws, and moral values, guiding Muslims in all aspects of their lives). And develop "the love for Allah and his Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wasallam".

Just for clarity, I am against religious schools in any form. Unfortunately, it is only ever Christianity that is targeted

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No.
People would just stop believing in fairy tails on their own.

I could not care less what people choose to believe in & I support people being able to follow their own belief systems and values. I would welcome religious education being taught in schools purely as 'this is what Christians believe, this is what Sikhs believe' rather than - you are a sinner if you dont do X,Y,Z. It means those people who do follow religion are included but those who don't aren't told that it's an absolute truth. I do think if you are sending your child to a faith school then you understand they will be learning about and following that faith. Where I live we have non denominational, Catholic, Jewish and Muslim (private) schools. However the catholic school has more muslim pupils than catholic so I don't know how faith is followed and taught there. It is a bit of a bone of contention as it is a highly achieving school & other Christian children are not allowed to go without a baptismal certificate but Muslim children are - I don't have a runner in the race so it doesnt affect me but it just shows how silly the whole thing is.