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Who wants to wait whilst my kittens are born!

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Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 02:42

My girl is having her kittens! First one is here squeaking and healthy!

Second is imminent.

I think she’ll have 4 🤞🏽🤞🏽

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Southeastlondonmum2 · 13/11/2025 18:19

Sorry but it is true. Those of us with experience of cat rescue and foster, we despair of this, people letting their young females have kittens for no purpose

Growlybear83 · 13/11/2025 18:20

Southeastlondonmum2 · 13/11/2025 18:04

Oh why oh why did you do this? I am a volunteer for several rescues. The world does not need any more kittens there are too many cats and kittens needing homes

Judging by your user name, you probably live near me. Like other people, I posted earlier that, despite having had cats for almost my entire life, three of the major cat rescues and several smaller ones were either not willing or able to find me a kitten when I was looking for one three years ago.

BellaTheDarkOverlord · 13/11/2025 18:22

Op, you realise the cat tax has updated its terms and conditions now and pics must be posted on an hourly basis.

Those little balls of cute fluffy goodness 😍

Southeastlondonmum2 · 13/11/2025 18:23

Probably a reason for that

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 13/11/2025 18:26

All those who cannot be happy for OP's cat and her adorable babies; do you run her life? And if not, do you wish you did?

The OP has already explained what I think none of you have a right to be privy to and you're still not happy.

Clear off and allow us cat lovers some happiness.

Cheers.

Allergictoironing · 13/11/2025 18:26

I did have to ask around for a bit as I wanted to adopt indoor only cats for safety reasons (very aggressive local un neutered tom who nearly killed a couple of local cats, a car repairer very close to the back garden so things like anti-freeze all over the place, and roaming gangs of feral teens). But I found an independent but very well respected rescue who were happy to let me have the 2 who chose me, and a third a few years later as a companion as one of the first pair had to be PTS. The lovely lady who runs the rescue was particularly happy I took them as they had been there a year as nobody wanted a) a bonded pair, b) young adult or c) black cats.

I completely agree with @Happyjoe above with the reasons why many people are refused e.g. the insistence on one rather than 2, the colour thing, has to be a kitten they won't accept a young cat instead. Then you get the people who HAVE to have a kitten right now, maybe in the depths of winter which isn't kitten season so no there are likely to be very few around at the time of year from ferals or strays. People seem to forget that a cute kitten becomes a young cat in a very few months then you have another 18-20 years of an adult cat.

I can understand rescues not wanting to rehome in December either, as giving an animal as a Christmas Present is rarely a good idea especially at a time when there's all the excitement going on.

Did you know that some people won't have a black cat because they tend not to photograph well for social media? But that's OK, because come late September & especially in October some sick and twisted people get black cats & pretend to be Satanists!

I told the story above of my darling Tobias. They would have chosen him as a kitten because he's one of the prettiest cats I've ever seen - a rich brown tabby & white, almost symmetrical and amazing markings on his very cute face. But as soon as he got past the cute little kitten stage he was thrown out on the streets. That's another reason why some rescues are very wary & careful about adoption.

People have said above that they don't want a cat with all the potential traumas it may be carrying from it's past life. That's fine, there's plenty of people out there like me who have the love, time and patience to overcome their pasts. But whenever I've been there's also been plenty of friendly cats who love people e.g. had to be rehomed due to their previous keeper's ill health, death, other change of circumstances.

By the way @Millytante , try having a quick Google about whether it's better for a cat to have a litter before spaying. You'll find it's near enough 100% saying this is an old wives tale and the real situation is the opposite.

user68901 · 13/11/2025 18:27

Just found your thread. So exciting to "watch" all the gorgeous kitties and their lovely mum. Then the haters came along so I skipped the rest of the thread.
Enjoy your gorgeous bundles. I would love to have a kitten again, best of luck to the new family and their new owners XX

Ruggerlass · 13/11/2025 18:31

TooTiredMum2 · 13/11/2025 09:27

Here for more photos 😍
Btw rehoming one from a shelter doesn’t work for people who would like to have a cat because the only ones that might get accepted are single people who never leave their house (and apparently don’t need to go to work). My sister who lives on her own in a big house with garden got rejected because she couldn’t guarantee that she’d never be out of the home for more than 4 hours for the next 10 years. Absolutely ridiculous and I can only assume that people who successfully adopt lie on the form but she wasn’t willing to do that and truthfully said that she obviously can’t rule out being out of the house for an afternoon at some point. Luckily she found someone like OP who was rehoming privately and is now a loving cat mum.

I’m not sure which shelter your sister tried to adopt from. I used to carry out pre-adoption home checks and cats were all rehomed to all types of homes. The most important criteria was finding the right match for both potential adopter and animal. Perhaps your sister was applying for cats that wouldn’t fit her lifestyle. I myself have adopted two cats and certainly don’t stay in all day everyday.

BigBrownTabby · 13/11/2025 18:39

Sorry but I don't for one moment believe that a vet would encourage you to breed or advise how to find a mate for a moggy. I have two vets in my family and they volunteer at a cat rescue charity and have adopted from there. This just would not happen.

(name changed)

BigBrownTabby · 13/11/2025 18:41

ginasevern · 13/11/2025 17:12

"Yes - it was ‘arranged’ as suggested by the vet - it felt very bizarre"

Your very own words OP.

Not in a million years. Or advising how to find a mate. Just would not happen.
Accidental pregnancy far more likely.

Allergictoironing · 13/11/2025 18:42

BigBrownTabby · 13/11/2025 18:39

Sorry but I don't for one moment believe that a vet would encourage you to breed or advise how to find a mate for a moggy. I have two vets in my family and they volunteer at a cat rescue charity and have adopted from there. This just would not happen.

(name changed)

Reading the OP's posts carefully, it seems like it wasn't recommended as such by the vet. Looks like OP asked her about it, vet saw that OP was determined, and advised her on the best way to go about it if she was adamant she was going to have a litter.

grumpygrape · 13/11/2025 18:51

Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 15:41

Yes - it was ‘arranged’ as suggested by the vet - it felt very bizarre 🤣

I was hoping for an errant orange one but nevermind!

Tut tut OP, an ARRANGED MARRIAGE ? This will set the Mumstwitterers off again !

Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 18:53

grumpygrape · 13/11/2025 18:51

Tut tut OP, an ARRANGED MARRIAGE ? This will set the Mumstwitterers off again !

I told her that if she didn’t go along with it I was turfing her out.

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tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 18:58

Southeastlondonmum2 · 13/11/2025 18:04

Oh why oh why did you do this? I am a volunteer for several rescues. The world does not need any more kittens there are too many cats and kittens needing homes

Read the thread? Also several people here have shared experiences of being denied a rescue cat by several places because their rules are so draconian.

@Kittenwatch came here for more pics😍 if you feel like posting after the pile on!

Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 19:01

tabbycatcuddles · 13/11/2025 18:58

Read the thread? Also several people here have shared experiences of being denied a rescue cat by several places because their rules are so draconian.

@Kittenwatch came here for more pics😍 if you feel like posting after the pile on!

I’m not responding to any of the oxygen thieves anymore.

I’ll post more a bit later. She’s resting with them so I’m letting them be calm together and get all happy and fat.

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Millytante · 13/11/2025 19:07

WatchingTVagain · 13/11/2025 17:21

Oh OP, they are gorgeous.

But I'm sat here looking at my 4 x 1 week old kittens from our current foster cat. She came into care pregnant and gave birth 2 days later. This is at least her 2nd litter. She will obviously be spayed as soon as the kittens are weaned and the struggle of finding up to 5 homes begins.

I know you've already lined up homes but as someone who has worked in cat rescue for 10 years it's a never ending cycle. As you already know who will be rehoming the kittens please encourage them to neuter early and keep in doors until they are. Cats are driven to mate.

For info - Most vets will also perform late pregnancy spays.
Any one with a NE postcode, CP are offering £10 chip and neuter (in some cases free) and will also cover the cost of a pregnant spay. (Google CP Northumbria)

Enjoy the kittens OP, they are lovely and in 6 weeks time it's going to be chaos 🤣🤣

I’m very much behind OP’s choice here, but your post reminded of one very antique vet I consulted here in Ireland about thirty years ago.
I took in a tiny and very young pregnant cat from a colleague who was severely ill and terminal.
My housing wasnt much cop back then, and the tenancy was most precarious, so I reckoned kittens would be impossible to manage.
Off we went to this vet, to give her a general MOT and also enquire about a pregnancy-ending operation, since she wasn't very far along. Assumed it'd be a pretty reasonable request.

Cue vet outrage and a lecture about abortion being a crime in Ireland (then), not to mention a mortal sin. I hadn't realised anyone included the animal kingdom in this doctrine.
Between the jigs and the reels I left her to Mother Nature and hoped for the best.
She produced one tiny kitten, bless her. Good God she loved that little daughter so much!

Both of them were with me for the rest of their lives, and my present, extremely ancient cat is the granddaughter of that little preggers waif/cat, and my other aged cat is her great-grand daughter.
What a sweetheart she was, even though the Vatican bullied her. Turned out well for us all.

(Ive often wondered whether that strict Catholic vet even performed neutering snd spaying, given his unexpected reaction.)

Laura95167 · 13/11/2025 19:11

Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 02:59

Kit 1 & Kit 2!

Are you keeping them all?

Cherrypies · 13/11/2025 19:28

I have read quite a lot of this thread, and can't believe the comments by so called animal lovers, so many childish comments about ohh, kittens, how fluffy and cute.
The real animal lovers are the ones that are not impressed by this unethical breeding of cats.
There is a huge problem with overpopulation, there are just not enough good homes for cats/kittens available.
Miraculously the op has homes lined up.
Calling people haters and joy suckers, because you can't see the bigger picture.
People who purposely let their cat have kittens are very irresponsible in my view. So is the vet, can't believe they would condone this, just looking at the money, as usual.

1reason · 13/11/2025 19:34

Loved this thread when I couldnt sleep very early this morning...the births happened in real time and OP was an excellent supportive midwife.
Best wishes to OP and her family ( human and cat). Look forward to more pics of the gorgeous fluffy black and white mama cat and babies😻

Millytante · 13/11/2025 19:38

Allergictoironing · 13/11/2025 18:26

I did have to ask around for a bit as I wanted to adopt indoor only cats for safety reasons (very aggressive local un neutered tom who nearly killed a couple of local cats, a car repairer very close to the back garden so things like anti-freeze all over the place, and roaming gangs of feral teens). But I found an independent but very well respected rescue who were happy to let me have the 2 who chose me, and a third a few years later as a companion as one of the first pair had to be PTS. The lovely lady who runs the rescue was particularly happy I took them as they had been there a year as nobody wanted a) a bonded pair, b) young adult or c) black cats.

I completely agree with @Happyjoe above with the reasons why many people are refused e.g. the insistence on one rather than 2, the colour thing, has to be a kitten they won't accept a young cat instead. Then you get the people who HAVE to have a kitten right now, maybe in the depths of winter which isn't kitten season so no there are likely to be very few around at the time of year from ferals or strays. People seem to forget that a cute kitten becomes a young cat in a very few months then you have another 18-20 years of an adult cat.

I can understand rescues not wanting to rehome in December either, as giving an animal as a Christmas Present is rarely a good idea especially at a time when there's all the excitement going on.

Did you know that some people won't have a black cat because they tend not to photograph well for social media? But that's OK, because come late September & especially in October some sick and twisted people get black cats & pretend to be Satanists!

I told the story above of my darling Tobias. They would have chosen him as a kitten because he's one of the prettiest cats I've ever seen - a rich brown tabby & white, almost symmetrical and amazing markings on his very cute face. But as soon as he got past the cute little kitten stage he was thrown out on the streets. That's another reason why some rescues are very wary & careful about adoption.

People have said above that they don't want a cat with all the potential traumas it may be carrying from it's past life. That's fine, there's plenty of people out there like me who have the love, time and patience to overcome their pasts. But whenever I've been there's also been plenty of friendly cats who love people e.g. had to be rehomed due to their previous keeper's ill health, death, other change of circumstances.

By the way @Millytante , try having a quick Google about whether it's better for a cat to have a litter before spaying. You'll find it's near enough 100% saying this is an old wives tale and the real situation is the opposite.

Maybe it is a tale promulgated by old Irish wives, since you insist on denying what I have reported as my personal experience!

All the cats I ever lived with, and there have been umpteen, have come to me by pure chance, when I wasn’t ‘in the market’ for one since I already had one little dynasty of female tabbies.
The famous ‘Cat Distribution Service’ was doing its thing. Inevitably some had been traumatised during kittenhood and needed a lot of nurturing.
Im thinking of three occasions when different vets over the years advised a quick pregnancy before spaying. It’s clear in my memory, despite your protestations.
(All I can assume is that thinking has changed and this advice is now out of favour. Doesnt change the fact that it was current before now)

It certainly did the trick in terms of fixing their early trauma. Total love for their kittens seemed to erase feline PTSD.
But it was a physical goal too, I was told, and my darling here on my lap is over 100 in cat years, and fit as a fiddle, and very close to her daughter (who’s about 80.)
What larks. .

thecatneuterer · 13/11/2025 19:43

It's so irresponsible of you to let her have a litter. Have you no idea what an overpopulation crisis of cats we are in? It's no something to be celebrated. It's something to be ashamed of. And even if you find good homes for them - those are homes that could have gone to other kittens in need.

Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 19:54

For the posters here for pics I couldn’t resist these - they looked unbearably beautiful ❤️

Who wants to wait whilst my kittens are born!
Who wants to wait whilst my kittens are born!
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Millytante · 13/11/2025 19:58

Kittenwatch · 13/11/2025 19:54

For the posters here for pics I couldn’t resist these - they looked unbearably beautiful ❤️

Aww what clever little scraps they are! Homing in unerringly on the good stuff. Ain’t Nature grand 😽🐾🐾
Hope the mum’s purring isnt shaking the plates from the dresser!

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/11/2025 19:58

They’re adorable. I need to squeeze and eat them all up. 🤣

MistressoftheDarkSide · 13/11/2025 19:58

Sooooo adorable 🥰

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